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Default How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? - 10-31-2010, 07:21 PM

Here is a question you.

So a light year = the distance light travels in a year.

Scientists say stars are million light years away.

So my question is how are we observing this light million light years away now?

I'm not millions of years old, i'm 20.
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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 10-31-2010, 07:25 PM

I remember these "scientists" saying that we can see roughly 20 miles over the horizon of a body of water. This is contradicting. I am with you on this. How do we see stars "millions of light years away"?
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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 10-31-2010, 07:34 PM

What really makes me laugh is how these sick-o scientists claim that the earth is a billion-carillon years old, when the Holy Bible tells us that the earth cannot possibly be older than about 6,000 years.

How do they expect anyone to take them seriously with nonsense like that?


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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 10-31-2010, 09:45 PM

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Here is a question you. So a light year = the distance light travels in a year. Scientists say stars are million light years away. So my question is how are we observing this light million light years away now? I'm not millions of years old, i'm 20.
Exactly, it is complete nonsense.

First of all, they claim that a light year is 5,878,499,810,000 miles. They also claim Virgo is about 100,000,000 light years away. That means Virgo is 587,849,981,000,000,000,000 miles away. These atheist scientists actually believe we can see something that is 587,849,981,000,000,000,000 miles away. Not bad for a 73 year old man to be able to see something that is 587,849,981,000,000,000,000 miles away. I must be a Superman.

And then the time difference. If it would take 100,000,000 years for that light to get here so I would have to stare at the sky for 100,000,000 years before I would see Virgo. While in reality I can see it right away.

Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh.


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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 10-31-2010, 10:26 PM

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Exactly, it is complete nonsense.

First of all, they claim that a light year is 5,878,499,810,000 miles. They also claim Virgo is about 100,000,000 light years away. That means Virgo is 587,849,981,000,000,000,000 miles away. These atheist scientists actually believe we can see something that is 587,849,981,000,000,000,000 miles away. Not bad for a 73 year old man to be able to see something that is 587,849,981,000,000,000,000 miles away. I must be a Superman.


And then the time difference. If it would take 100,000,000 years for that light to get here so I would have to stare at the sky for 100,000,000 years before I would see Virgo. While in reality I can see it right away.

Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh.
Very true Brother, then they come up with all sorts of stories about why we can't see something 50 miles away.


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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 02:11 AM

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So my question is how are we observing this light million light years away now?
The light isn't shining from anywhere near that far away. Science is insidious this way... the logic they use is fine and all but they're always basing things on ridiculous premises.

Light doesn't have a speed. It's not a thing and doesn't travel anywhere. It projects itself from a source and shines upon an object instantaneously. Anyone can see that. It's obvious! Except maybe to heathen scientists who have ulterior motives and will build on this one lie to create entire false narratives about the universe, some heresy called the big bang and more.

Give these Godless scientists no ground whatsoever, I say.
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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:01 AM

You all do realize that the light doesn't just start shining from the stars when you're born.... The earth is millions of years old therefore light from these faraway stars has reached earth by now... So... It's completely logical.

You all need a good physics lesson.
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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:10 AM

What kind of logic is this. Light is either on or off.


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You all do realize that the light doesn't just start shining from the stars when you're born.... The earth is millions of years old therefore light from these faraway stars has reached earth by now... So... It's completely logical.

You all need a good physics lesson.
You do realize that light was created just over six millennia ago:

Genesis 1:3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:17 AM

if a star is burning, in your "terms", I would say that light is on.

If a star is millions of light years away then it would take a million years for the light to arrive at earth (traveling at 299 792 458 m / s)....

We can see the stars, therefor the earth is atleast a million years old.
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if a star is burning, in your "terms", I would say that light is on.

If a star is millions of light years away then it would take a million years for the light to arrive at earth (traveling at 299 792 458 m / s)....

We can see the stars, therefor the earth is atleast a million years old.
Light does don't travel. That is just silly. I cannot put light in my car and drive it somewhere and then release it.


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if a star is burning, in your "terms", I would say that light is on.

If a star is millions of light years away then it would take a million years for the light to arrive at earth (traveling at 299 792 458 m / s)....

We can see the stars, therefor the earth is atleast a million years old.
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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:25 AM

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if a star is burning, in your "terms", I would say that light is on.

If a star is millions of light years away then it would take a million years for the light to arrive at earth (traveling at 299 792 458 m / s)....

We can see the stars, therefor the earth is atleast a million years old.
Well that's backwards isn't it. In order to prove the star is millions of light years away, you have to prove that the earth is millions of years old.

Sorry, but we know for a fact that the earth is just a little over 6,000 years old. All you need to do is count the generations in the Bible.


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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:28 AM

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You do realize that light was created just over six millennia ago:

Genesis 1:3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

You need a good Bible lesson.
You need a good English lesson I'd say.

God saying light doesn't necessarily mean the literal "light"....

The meaning could also be interpreted as the truth being revealed.
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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:40 AM

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Light does don't travel. That is just silly. I cannot put light in my car and drive it somewhere and then release it.
Notice the speed that light travels at.... 299792458 meters per second.
Its pretty silly to think of light standing still actually, If this was true then if you
closed the blinds in your house, the light would still be inside! Lol, what kind of logic is yours now?

Of course you cant put it in your car.... Theres no way you can capture it!
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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:46 AM

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Notice the speed that light travels at.... 299792458 meters per second.
Its pretty silly to think of light standing still actually, If this was true then if you
closed the blinds in your house, the light would still be inside! Lol, what kind of logic is yours now?

Of course you cant put it in your car.... Theres no way you can capture it!
If it takes millions of years to travel to earth, how can i see it now? I'm only 20.

If it takes millions of years to travel to earth then the viewer would need to be millions of years old.
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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:52 AM

Creation scientists have proven that stars cannot possibly be millions of light years away. First of all, stars are essentially giant diamonds since they are composed of carbon (our sun is in the form of coal). I have used the latest science and complex mathematics to prove that the stars are much closer.

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Genesis1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

I would like to expound on this as some people are confused about the nature of stars. We can gather two conclusions from this verse. 1) Stars are meant to divide day and night and 2) They are meant for time-keeping.

Since stars are clearly stated to be designed for human purpose, it makes no sense that they would be millions of light-years away like scientists claim. If God made stars so we can keep track of time, why seperate them from earth by vast distances? Furthermore, if they were millions of light-years away, that would mean they would have to be very, very big -- even bigger than our own sun. No, that doesn't make sense at all.
Later in that thread I show through mathematics how it is impossible for stars to be more than six billion miles away from Earth.



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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:54 AM

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Notice the speed that light travels at.... 299792458 meters per second.
Its pretty silly to think of light standing still actually, If this was true then if you
closed the blinds in your house, the light would still be inside! Lol, what kind of logic is yours now?

Of course you cant put it in your car.... Theres no way you can capture it!
As I said before, light does not travel, it is either on or off.

If it is dark, then I turn on the light switch and the light comes on. If I turn it off, it goes dark. Simular to what God did in Genesis 1:3, but I am not God.

Genesis 1:3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

If light is travelling, then why does it not break thinks when it hits something.


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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 03:57 AM

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You need a good English lesson I'd say.

God saying light doesn't necessarily mean the literal "light"....

The meaning could also be interpreted as the truth being revealed.
So you just pick and choose what parts of the Bible to believe? The KJV1611 Bible is the Holy Inerrant Word of God, who are you to try and tell us "well what God really means..."

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Default Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw - 11-01-2010, 05:11 AM

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if a star is burning, in your "terms", I would say that light is on.
Of course a star's light is on. We can see it.

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If a star is millions of light years away then it would take a million years for the light to arrive at earth (traveling at 299 792 458 m / s)....
Whoa there... hold your horses. You are using circular logic built upon ridiculous assertions. There is no such thing as a "light year" because light has no travel time. What's so hard to understand about that?
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We can see the stars, therefor the earth is atleast a million years old.
You are like a broken record, repeating the same gibberish over and over again. Your eternal damnation is certain at this point. The irony is that, once cast into the lake of fire, you will be farther from heaven than any distance you could ever have imagined...

Proverbs 26:11 "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly."

Romans 13:2 "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."
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