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Default PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 04:25 PM

A scientist in 1899 claimed the diameter is only 32 miles, some of his points made are very interesting.

''The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles; how then can the sun if it be so many thousand miles in diameter, squeece itself into a space of about 3,000 miles only...can a camel ride on a mouse, or a whale rush down the throat of a herring?

What is the diameter of the sun?

32 miles. If the navigator neglects to apply the sun's semi-diameter to his observation at sea, he is 16 nautical miles (nearly) in calculating the position his ship is in. A minute of arc on the sextant represents a nautical mile, and if the semi-diameter be 16 miles, the diameter is of course 32 miles. And as measured by the sextant, the sun's diameter is 32 minutes of arc, that is 32 nautical miles in diameter. If ever dispoof is attempted, it will be a literary curiosity, well worth framing.''
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 05:35 PM

Wow, I had no idea, I always thought it was much smaller, like 5 miles. Thanks for the Biblical facts, Heathen Basher, I know I can always count on your for God's Honest Truth®.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 05:56 PM

You forget the fact that the sun is millions of miles away, it may "look" like these constellations are close to each other, when they are in fact millions of miles apart, suns couldn't survive that close to each other, they would red dwarf instantly to the excessive amounts of energy.
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Angry Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 06:07 PM

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You forget the fact that ......millions of miles.....insane mumbo jumbo........red dwarf .....
The sun is barely 500 miles frm sea level, and exists in the oceans about the sky. There are no indian midgets in the sky.


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Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 06:43 PM

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Daww did Mummy let you out the cupboard again? Silly woman, letting retards like you running around with daddies "God books".
I asked how you know the distance to the sun. You are claiming it's not an estimate but that you know the precise figure. So have you traveled to the sun and back? My point was to clarify the distinction between fact and estimates (guesses).
I'm open minded and read different theories. Unless you go up into space yourself there is no way of proving the exact size of the sun or location of celestial objects. It appears you base all your faith in what NASA etc tell you without ever questioning anything. I thought atheists were meant to be 'skeptics'?
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Angry Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 06:49 PM

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Daww did Mummy let you out the cupboard again? Silly woman, letting retards like you running around with daddies "God books".
The classic response from a person who knows he has nary a leg to stand on, to insult the other person. Typical childish post.


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Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Angry Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 07:28 PM

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Urgh, I apologise for my sisters handywork on this thread, she's hacked onto my account and has been spouting blasphemy to all of you, I dearly apoligise.
I see.
Well.
That makes all the difference in the world.


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Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 08:29 PM

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Urgh, I apologise for my sisters handywork on this thread, she's hacked onto my account and has been spouting blasphemy to all of you, I dearly apoligise.
Has your father properly disciplined her yet?


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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 11:15 PM

I'm an atheist and I'm skeptic about that 'scientist' from 1899.

I presume you don't know much about space between objects? The energy that the sun gives consists of low-level radiation (FACT: If you stay too long under the sun, you get burn, or you can get skin-cancer, result of low-level radiation).
To secure the fact that enough energy comes to Earth, It must be at least the size of the Earth, and very close to Earth too if you want that the radiation can reach Earth, but if the sun is so close and has the size of Earth, we would have noticed.

If we see how large it is from our point of view, it must be very large if we want that it gives us enough energy, so the distance is very great as his mass.

Besides People have already be in space, and travelled further than those distance you claim, Americans have travelled in space and claim the sun if much bigger and farther without being great scientists.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-14-2010, 11:45 PM

The evidence for a small sun is indeed overwhelming.

  1. We know for a fact the sun is no more than 500 miles away. This has been proven using mathematics. If the sun is so close, it would have to be much smaller than previously thought.
  2. It's also been proven that the Earth is flat. Therefore the sun would have to be very small, as it revolves in a circle around the Earth. Think of the Earth as a circular dinner table. Now take a small flashlight and hold it about a foot above the table. Then walk the perimeter of it. Notice how the flashlight only illuminates part of the table at any given time? That proves our sun is very close and very small. If the sun was as large as secular scientists say, then the whole table (Earth) would be illuminated at once. Direct observation disproves this.
  3. The sun is made out of coal (carbon). Scientists realize that the sun is a star and stars are made out of diamonds. I could see a lump of coal being 32 miles across, but millions of miles across? No way. Lumps of coal aren't that big.
  4. Since the sun is a star, and it has been proven that the stars are not millions of miles away, it follows that the sun has to be close as well. And if the sun is so close, it has to be small.
  5. The sun cannot be millions of miles away because of outer space. We know that space is made up completely of water. If there were a sun millions of miles away, how could the light be seen through such vast lengths of water? If you had a huge spotlight under just 20,000 feet of water, you couldn't see it from the surface. As well, the temperature of the sun would have to be in the millions of degrees and that would boil the water and evaporate. We wouldn't have outer space anymore.
As you can see the Small Sun Theory is backed up by several peer-reviewed Creation Science threads on here. The evidence all ties together to reveal the wondrous majesty of God's creation.



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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 12:01 AM

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I'm an atheist and I'm skeptic about that 'scientist' from 1899.

I presume you don't know much about space between objects? The energy that the sun gives consists of low-level radiation (FACT: If you stay too long under the sun, you get burn, or you can get skin-cancer, result of low-level radiation).
To secure the fact that enough energy comes to Earth, It must be at least the size of the Earth, and very close to Earth too if you want that the radiation can reach Earth, but if the sun is so close and has the size of Earth, we would have noticed.

If we see how large it is from our point of view, it must be very large if we want that it gives us enough energy, so the distance is very great as his mass.

Besides People have already be in space, and travelled further than those distance you claim, Americans have travelled in space and claim the sun if much bigger and farther without being great scientists.
Why not read what he wrote? Again, more closed-mindness. Why come to this forum to debate issues if you think you know eveything about everything already?

You are putting all your faith in satellite technology. How do you know there aren't faults or errors with the satellites?
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 12:17 AM

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I'm an atheist and I'm skeptic about that 'scientist' from 1899.

I presume you don't know much about space between objects? The energy that the sun gives consists of low-level radiation (FACT: If you stay too long under the sun, you get burn, or you can get skin-cancer, result of low-level radiation).
Stuff and nonsense. African darkies spend all day under the sun, but they never spontaneously catch on fire.
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To secure the fact that enough energy comes to Earth, It must be at least the size of the Earth, and very close to Earth too if you want that the radiation can reach Earth, but if the sun is so close and has the size of Earth, we would have noticed.
Yes, we agree that the sun is very close to the Earth, correct. And we agree that if the sun was that close and the size of the Earth, we would have noticed. Therefore, the only logical deduction is that the sun must be 32 miles in diameter. Your own scientific calculations back us up on this one.


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I'm an atheist and I'm skeptic about that 'scientist' from 1899.

I presume you don't know much about space between objects? The energy that the sun gives consists of low-level radiation (FACT: If you stay too long under the sun, you get burn, or you can get skin-cancer, result of low-level radiation).
To secure the fact that enough energy comes to Earth, It must be at least the size of the Earth, and very close to Earth too if you want that the radiation can reach Earth, but if the sun is so close and has the size of Earth, we would have noticed.

If we see how large it is from our point of view, it must be very large if we want that it gives us enough energy, so the distance is very great as his mass.

Besides People have already be in space, and travelled further than those distance you claim, Americans have travelled in space and claim the sun if much bigger and farther without being great scientists.
Fact: Burning coal does not emit radiation, it emits light and heat
Fact: Have you ever been near a puny bonfire of say, 30 feet in diameter? You cannot get with 100 feet of it or you'll burst into flames. Comfort is at 300~400 feet

Imagine a bonfire, 32 miles across and high. Given you need a ratio of 14:1 for comfort, that would make the sun approximately 448 miles from Earth at the closest and about 550 miles at the furthest. What a coincidence! The accepted distance is 500 miles more or less.


Sure, people have been in space....
Have you been there or do you just take the word from people you do not know? Pretty sketchy if you ask me.


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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 12:55 PM

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You are putting all your faith in satellite technology. How do you know there aren't faults or errors with the satellites?

You are putting all your faith in a book which you regulary point out that they have faults and lies in them, your just destroying your own argument here.

Brother temperance:
Stuff and nonsense. African darkies spend all day under the sun, but they never spontaneously catch on fire.

He never said they spontaneously caught fire, he means getting burnt, ever grabbed a something very hot? That kind of burned. Besides they don't get burned in that way because African darkies as you call them (Which you are using as an insult here.) because they have a greater amount of melamine in their skin (The thing that protects your body from the harmful radiation form the sun.)

James:
Fact: Burning coal does not emit radiation, it emits light and heat
addum: Both of them are a type of radiation.

Fact: Have you ever been near a puny bonfire of say, 30 feet in diameter? You cannot get with 100 feet of it or you'll burst into flames. Comfort is at 300~400 feet

Imagine a bonfire, 32 miles across and high. Given you need a ratio of 14:1 for comfort, that would make the sun approximately 448 miles from Earth at the closest and about 550 miles at the furthest. What a coincidence! The accepted distance is 500 miles more or less.

And what if the "bonfire" would be larger then 32 miles? You are just assuming that it is and giving a rather feeble theory to support it.

Sure, people have been in space....
Have you been there or do you just take the word from people you do not know? Pretty sketchy if you ask me.

Well you take the word of a book that is written by people you don't know, pretty sketchy to if you ask me.
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... Well you take the word of a book that is written by people you don't know, pretty sketchy to if you ask me.
You take theories from people you don't know. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.


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You take theories from people you don't know. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
I pointed out that he was doing the same thing he was accusing other people off. Besides you do the same thing to, believing whatever is written in the book.
So I guess that makes us both hypocrites in your vision.
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I pointed out that he was doing the same thing he was accusing other people off. Besides you do the same thing to, believing whatever is written in the book.
So I guess that makes us both hypocrites in your vision.
You believe what is written in a book.


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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 01:20 PM

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You believe what is written in a book.
And you are just repeating yourself and not giving any reasons for me to believe your point of view. Could you maybe give me a reason why I am wrong to think why the sun is 32 miles?
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 01:25 PM

And you are just repeating yourself and not giving any reasons for me to believe your point of view. Could you maybe give me a reason why I am wrong to think why the sun isn't 32 miles?
Sorry small typo. corrected it here.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 01:26 PM

Yeah, we BELIEVE what is written in a book that is made by someone we don't know.

We don't believe actually, we think and try to understand what is written in a specific book, then we try ourselves this new knowledge with our logic and we take other books to see what they're saying about that specific subject.

We are always skeptical when scientists read something, you don't really do that.

I don't accept any knowledge that says 'it's scientific', you accept apparently any knowledge that doesn't contradict with your point of view. I try to open my mind to new discoveries, those who have logical and reasonable theories.
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