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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 02:32 PM

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Yeah, we BELIEVE what is written in a book that is made by someone we don't know.

We don't believe actually, we think and try to understand what is written in a specific book, then we try ourselves this new knowledge with our logic and we take other books to see what they're saying about that specific subject.

We are always skeptical when scientists read something, you don't really do that.

I don't accept any knowledge that says 'it's scientific', you accept apparently any knowledge that doesn't contradict with your point of view. I try to open my mind to new discoveries, those who have logical and reasonable theories.
So far all you've given me is your estimate for the distance to the sun.

Note the following estimates for the distance of the sun to the earth:

Copernicus 3, 391, 200 miles
Kepler 12, 376, 800 miles
Ric-ciola 27, 360,000 miles
Newton 28,000,000 miles
Martin 82,000,000 miles
Dilworth 93, 726, 900 miles
Mayer 104, 000, 000 miles

There is a gap here of 101 millions miles. The point is astronomers can only estimate the distance from us to the sun because it is so far away and no one has ever traveled it. These estimates have the risk of being so far off, as i said millions of miles.

That's the problem here. You don't question anything and just blindly follow what you find on the internet. Say the internet did not exist, and you didn't read anyone elses estimate, how far would you calculate the distance of the sun from us?

What empirical observations?

Why does it make more sense?

In fact the opposite is true. Common sense actually argues that the sun is a small object in the sky which moves around the earth, since this is what we personally observe with our own eyes everyday.

I don't wish this to develop into a heliocentric or geocentric debate. My point was simply that there is no way to know the distance of the sun from earth. All we can do is guess or make estimates.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 02:51 PM

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So far all you've given me is your estimate for the distance to the sun.

Note the following estimates for the distance of the sun to the earth:

Copernicus 3, 391, 200 miles
Kepler 12, 376, 800 miles
Ric-ciola 27, 360,000 miles
Newton 28,000,000 miles
Martin 82,000,000 miles
Dilworth 93, 726, 900 miles
Mayer 104, 000, 000 miles

There is a gap here of 101 millions miles. The point is astronomers can only estimate the distance from us to the sun because it is so far away and no one has ever traveled it. These estimates have the risk of being so far off, as i said millions of miles.

That's the problem here. You don't question anything and just blindly follow what you find on the internet. Say the internet did not exist, and you didn't read anyone elses estimate, how far would you calculate the distance of the sun from us?

What empirical observations?

Why does it make more sense?

In fact the opposite is true. Common sense actually argues that the sun is a small object in the sky which moves around the earth, since this is what we personally observe with our own eyes everyday.

I don't wish this to develop into a heliocentric or geocentric debate. My point was simply that there is no way to know the distance of the sun from earth. All we can do is guess or make estimates.
take in consideration that we can only guess we still have to take in mind that our people have been out there in space. And if you think the moon landing is fake, we still have a lot of other evidence that we are in space.
So it would be impossible to be only 500 miles away from the earth because the atmosphere stops at 24 854 miles give or take a few miles, we don't use the mile system here.

though you are right about that we can't know the distance exactly but we do know that it is a lot more then 500 miles.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 03:08 PM

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take in consideration that we can only guess we still have to take in mind that our people have been out there in space. And if you think the moon landing is genuine, we still have a lot of other evidence that we are in space.
So it would be impossible to be only 500 miles away from the earth because the atmosphere stops at 24 854 miles give or take a few miles, we don't use the mile system here.

though you are right about that we can't know the distance exactly but we do know that it is a lot more then 500 miles.
Another personal attack on the source without attempting to read or debunk it i see... shows you apparently have some insecurities.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 03:11 PM

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take in consideration that we can only guess we still have to take in mind that our people have been out there in space.
You have people in space? Are you a Mormon?





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And if you think the moon landing is genuine, we still have a lot of other evidence that we are in space.


Moon landing genuine? You watch way to much



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So it would be impossible to be only 500 miles away from the earth because the atmosphere stops at 24 854 miles give or take a few miles, we don't use the mile system here.

though you are right about that we can't know the distance exactly but we do know that it is a lot more then 500 miles
I just do not know how to respond. Can you back any of that up with the Bible?
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=James Dewitt;654971]Jeff_Celler;654962] You have people in space? Are you a Mormon?
Nope I am not, besides I know those guy's are a bit strange but do you people really have to laugh about everyone that isn't part of your little group? You claim to be wanting to save us, but that way you aren't going to have a lot of success you know.






Moon landing genuine? You watch way to much
Give me some real evidence that it couldn't be right then.





I just do not know how to respond. Can you back any of that up with the Bible?
You think the things that are not in the bible do not exist? How about the internet that you are on right now? Or the computer that you use to type? The technology in those things are not in the bible, though they exist, how do you think they work then?
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-15-2010, 08:46 PM

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Jeff_Celler;654962] You have people in space? Are you a Mormon?
Nope I am not, besides I know those guy's are a bit strange but do you people really have to laugh about everyone that isn't part of your little group? You claim to be wanting to save us, but that way you aren't going to have a lot of success you know.






Moon landing genuine? You watch way to much
Give me some real evidence that it couldn't be right then.





I just do not know how to respond. Can you back any of that up with the Bible?
You think the things that are not in the bible do not exist? How about the internet that you are on right now? Or the computer that you use to type? The technology in those things are not in the bible, though they exist, how do you think they work then?
Would you like to actually respond to my posts instead of trolling out this thread and now resorting to personal attacks/making false accusations?
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Nope I am not, besides I know those guy's are a bit strange but do you people really have to laugh about everyone that isn't part of your little group? You claim to be wanting to save us, but that way you aren't going to have a lot of success you know.
I cant save you, only Jesus can do that. We only laugh at people who say and do really dumb things, like talk about space people.



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Give me some real evidence that it couldn't be right then.


Can you produce any evidence other that Government Photo shopped images?



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In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


You see God created everything, including man. So God is responsible for all of man's inventions, including the computer and Interweb.

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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 12-21-2010, 02:28 PM

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He never said they spontaneously caught fire, he means getting burnt, ever grabbed a something very hot? That kind of burned. Besides they don't get burned in that way because African darkies as you call them (Which you are using as an insult here.) because they have a greater amount of melamine in their skin (The thing that protects your body from the harmful radiation form the sun.)
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-10-2011, 03:52 PM

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The evidence for a small sun is indeed overwhelming.

  1. We know for a fact the sun is no more than 500 miles away. This has been proven using mathematics. If the sun is so close, it would have to be much smaller than previously thought.
  2. It's also been proven that the Earth is flat. Therefore the sun would have to be very small, as it revolves in a circle around the Earth. Think of the Earth as a circular dinner table. Now take a small flashlight and hold it about a foot above the table. Then walk the perimeter of it. Notice how the flashlight only illuminates part of the table at any given time? That proves our sun is very close and very small. If the sun was as large as secular scientists say, then the whole table (Earth) would be illuminated at once. Direct observation disproves this.
  3. The sun is made out of coal (carbon). Scientists realize that the sun is a star and stars are made out of diamonds. I could see a lump of coal being 32 miles across, but millions of miles across? No way. Lumps of coal aren't that big.
  4. Since the sun is a star, and it has been proven that the stars are not millions of miles away, it follows that the sun has to be close as well. And if the sun is so close, it has to be small.
  5. The sun cannot be millions of miles away because of outer space. We know that space is made up completely of water. If there were a sun millions of miles away, how could the light be seen through such vast lengths of water? If you had a huge spotlight under just 20,000 feet of water, you couldn't see it from the surface. As well, the temperature of the sun would have to be in the millions of degrees and that would boil the water and evaporate. We wouldn't have outer space anymore.
As you can see the Small Sun Theory is backed up by several peer-reviewed Creation Science threads on here. The evidence all ties together to reveal the wondrous majesty of God's creation.
Points 1, 2 & 4 are rendered completely useless by maths that most people are taught when they're 15 years old, 3 is shown to be rubbish due to spectral analysis and as for 5... Well thats just wrong.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-10-2011, 10:51 PM

There is flawed logic here. You state that the sun is 32 miles in diameter if it is 3000 miles away and you all accept this as fact. You also all of you agree that the sun is 500 miles away. So by your own logic the sun cannot be 32 miles in diameter at 500 mile away.

Please clarify this element for me.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-10-2011, 10:56 PM

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A scientist in 1899 claimed the diameter is only 32 miles, some of his points made are very interesting.

''The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles; how then can the sun if it be so many thousand miles in diameter, squeece itself into a space of about 3,000 miles only...can a camel ride on a mouse, or a whale rush down the throat of a herring?

What is the diameter of the sun?

32 miles.
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The evidence for a small sun is indeed overwhelming.

  1. We know for a fact the sun is no more than 500 miles away. This has been proven using mathematics. If the sun is so close, it would have to be much smaller than previously thought.
  2. The sun is made out of coal (carbon). Scientists realize that the sun is a star and stars are made out of diamonds. I could see a lump of coal being 32 miles across, but millions of miles across? No way. Lumps of coal aren't that big.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-10-2011, 11:26 PM

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"''The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles"

3,000 miles is the size of the distance between the tropics of Cancer and Capricon, not the earth to the sun.

Are you mentally retarded?
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-11-2011, 12:08 AM

I am here to clarify a fact for this belief, so I can pass on the teachings. I quite within my right to educate myself and others - you too yourself, just like me preach this.

I have received your private message and read this post.

I am absolutely disgusted by you and your actions. You have offended me in a way no other believer has offended me before. Your language is Satanic and I cannot believe that this is the way you treat your own fellow people.

My complaints have been passed on to your head Pastor. Normally most people would expect a full apology but I am always willing to forgive.

I hope you learn from the error of your ways, young man.


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"''The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles"

3,000 miles is the size of the distance between the tropics of Cancer and Capricon, not the earth to the sun.

Are you mentally retarded?
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I am here to clarify a fact for this belief, so I can pass on the teachings. I quite within my right to educate myself and others - you too yourself, just like me preach this.

I have received your private message and read this post.

I am absolutely disgusted by you and your actions. You have offended me in a way no other believer has offended me before. Your language is Satanic and I cannot believe that this is the way you treat your own fellow people.

My complaints have been passed on to your head Pastor. Normally most people would expect a full apology but I am always willing to forgive.

I hope you learn from the error of your ways, young man.
The Pastors on this site will be on my side, not on the side of a Bible-denying, God-hating, Christian-persecuting reprobate like yourself.

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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-11-2011, 06:18 AM

If that were true, it'd be smaller than New York City. And if THAT were true, it would in no way possible be heating us up and giving us life everyday. That whole cycle of nature thing you know, sun, plants, animals, people? Yeah. We wouldn't be alive without it.

I mean, it's common sense really.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-11-2011, 01:47 PM

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The Pastors on this site will be on my side, not on the side of a Bible-denying, God-hating, Christian-persecuting reprobate like yourself.

I hope you learn from the error of your ways, before you end up roasting in hell to be tortured by Jesus for all eternity, along with most of your family, friends, loved ones, and the majority of the world's population.
You know nothing of who I am. You do not know who you are talking to. How can you make such accusations and expect to go about doing Gods work saving others when you are clearly lost yourself.

I need not argue with you further for reasons you may not understand.
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Cool Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-11-2011, 01:52 PM

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If that were true, it'd be smaller than New York City. And if THAT were true, it would in no way possible be heating us up and giving us life everyday. That whole cycle of nature thing you know, sun, plants, animals, people? Yeah. We wouldn't be alive without it.

I mean, it's common sense really.
How close can you get to a bonfire? Now imagine one 1,000 times larger.

Honestly, I do not know why they let females on the internet!


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Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Angry Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-11-2011, 01:57 PM

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You know nothing of who I am. You do not know who you are talking to. How can you make such accusations and expect to go about doing Gods work saving others when you are clearly lost yourself.

I need not argue with you further for reasons you may not understand.
You do not know who Brother Heathen Basher is. But I will give you some insight. He is a man of impeccable Biblical knowledge. He has Saved© countless young men from lives of depravity. He has studied under some of the most poignant men in the world, sucking up knowledge with a celestial ability.

You see, when you attack a person Like Brother Basher, you completely loose any credibility you may of earned. Now we all know you are just another internet crackpot and you can be expected to be treated as such.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-11-2011, 02:17 PM

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How close can you get to a bonfire? Now imagine one 1,000 times larger.

Honestly, I do not know why they let females on the internet!
that is not a nice thing to say^^


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29: Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.
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Default Re: PROOF that the sun is only 32 miles in diameter! - 03-11-2011, 02:36 PM

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You do not know who Brother Heathen Basher is. But I will give you some insight. He is a man of impeccable Biblical knowledge. He has Saved© countless young men from lives of depravity. He has studied under some of the most poignant men in the world, sucking up knowledge with a celestial ability.

You see, when you attack a person Like Brother Basher, you completely loose any credibility you may of earned. Now we all know you are just another internet crackpot and you can be expected to be treated as such.

James I need help with scripture. I have recently found out i was wrong about everything. I need the Lords forgiveness and I dont know how to please him.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah
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