[IJustWantSodomy]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

You're confused. God never said, "ever." He very clearly commands capital punishment for people who don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); witches (Exodus 22:17); homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13;Romans 1:24-32); fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27) kids who hit their dads (Exodus 21:15); kids who curse their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); adulterers (Leviticus 20:10); non-Christians (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); atheists (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); false prophets (Zechariah 13:3); the entire town of one who worships another god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); non-virgin brides (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); and blasphemers (Leviticus 24:10-16).

I hope that helps.

Then WHY write "Thou shalt not kill." That's all he write. It's ultimate. All it says is "You shall not kill." But now you try to justify killing because apparently he also told you to. So he said "You shall not kill" (which ultimately means never, it is never specified that there are exceptions) and then said "You shall kill these people." You can't have either one. Just admit, the Bible is more full of loopholes than a time travel movie.

[Elmer G. White]

Originally Posted by IJustWantSodomy

Then WHY write "Thou shalt not kill." That's all he write. It's ultimate. All it says is "You shall not kill." But now you try to justify killing because apparently he also told you to. So he said "You shall not kill" (which ultimately means never, it is never specified that there are exceptions) and then said "You shall kill these people." You can't have either one. Just admit, the Bible is more full of loopholes than a time travel movie.

You are asking GOD why He wrote what He wrote?! You are actually saying that He should play by YOUR rules?! You are suggesting that He would have the duty to follow YOUR logic? Why would he do that? An all-powerful being tells you what to do in a Book that is available in plain American and you question Him? If He is capricious or willing to provide loopholes, who are we to question or patronize Him!? Here at LBC we are HONEST. We admit that God can be illogical, wanton or violent from the human viewpoint AND that gives us even more reasons to revere and FEAR Him. Through fear emerges love and the potential to feel the conditional LOVE OF God.

He does not need to yield to your wishes.

Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Elmer G. White

You are asking GOD why He wrote what He wrote?! You are actually saying that He should play by YOUR rules?! You are suggesting that He would have the duty to follow YOUR logic? Why would he do that? An all-powerful being tells you what to do in a Book that is available in plain American and you question Him? If He is capricious or willing to provide loopholes, who are we to question or patronize Him!? Here at LBC we are HONEST. We admit that God can be illogical, wanton or violent from the human viewpoint AND that gives us even more reasons to revere and FEAR Him. Through fear emerges love and the potential to feel the conditional LOVE OF God.

He does not need to yield to your wishes.

Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

You put the finger right on the nose, Brother! It makes no sense from our Human Perspective, but that doesn't mean it's not Righteous and Just and Worthy of our Obedience!

The LORD knew that Humans would lack the capability to comprehend His Ways, and goes out of His Way to tell us:

For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:9

The response to such a reality is not to complain and argue. One might as well yell against the wind.

The response is, like you say, Revere and Fear Him. It is our sole duty, after all!

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
Fear God, and keep his commandments:
for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecclesiastes 12:13

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by IJustWantSodomy

Yeah, I do.

Calling Jesus a liar shows that you don't understand the true nature of God.

Everything God (Jesus) says is by definition the truth. For example, if God would say that 1+1 equals 3, then it does. That we would not understand or comprehend that, changes nothing. God is simply always right.

Psalm 139:2-6 - King James Version (KJV)
2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.
4 For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O Lord, thou knowest it altogether.
5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.

[IJustWantSodomy]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

You're confused. God never said, "ever." He very clearly commands capital punishment for people who don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); witches (Exodus 22:17); homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13;Romans 1:24-32); fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27) kids who hit their dads (Exodus 21:15); kids who curse their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); adulterers (Leviticus 20:10); non-Christians (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); atheists (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); false prophets (Zechariah 13:3); the entire town of one who worships another god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); non-virgin brides (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); and blasphemers (Leviticus 24:10-16).

I hope that helps.

I. Don't. Care. Don't write "Thou shalt not kill" and then say "kill". Period. No. More.

[IJustWantSodomy]

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man

Calling Jesus a liar shows that you don't understand the true nature of God.

Everything God (Jesus) says is by definition the truth. For example, if God would say that 1+1 equals 3, then it does. That we would not understand or comprehend that, changes nothing. God is simply always right.

Psalm 139:2-6 - King James Version (KJV)
2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.
4 For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O Lord, thou knowest it altogether.
5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.

No. Simply: no.

[Jim Farmer]

It's very limited what He could write on those stone tablets, so He had to summarise. There's no way He could write a whole essay on each commandment. Afterall, He only had 2 tablets.
You try carving stone tablets, and see how you go!

[IJustWantSodomy]

Originally Posted by Jim Farmer

It's very limited what He could write on those stone tablets, so He had to summarise. There's no way He could write a whole essay on each commandment. Afterall, He only had 2 tablets.
You try carving stone tablets, and see how you go!

Do not care. He still contradicted himself, why should I trust him if he's clearly not sure himself what he wants people to do?

[Jim Farmer]

Originally Posted by IJustWantSodomy

Do not care. He still contradicted himself, why should I trust him if he's clearly not sure himself what he wants people to do?

I really don't understand why you care. Unless you repent of your sodomistic ways, you are headed for Hell anyway.
Besides which, He is sure - just because we mere mortals cannot fully comprehend Him, does not mean that He's not sure, or that He contradicts Himself.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by IJustWantSodomy

Do not care. He still contradicted himself, why should I trust him if he's clearly not sure himself what he wants people to do?

He's sure. He has one goal in mind for you, dear. He has created you for His Glory (Isaiah 48:11), and your duty is to fear and obey Him (Ecclesiastes 12:13). I know you want to cry like a toddler and tell us "it's not fair," but you fail to understand the LORD did not make the world to be fair. We know it's not fair. How can it have taken you so long to figure it out? There's good news, however. You can be on the Winning Side! Wouldn't you like that?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by IJustWantSodomy

Do not care. He still contradicted himself, why should I trust him if he's clearly not sure himself what he wants people to do?

God clearly wants you to stop playing "hide the pickle" with every Russian sailor that comes to port. He also wants you to repent of being a eurotrash pervert.

Don't worry about other people, worry about yourself. All that's at stake is eternity.

[Luminelle]

Was I asking for it and wearing slutty clothes when my 6 year old self was raped in her uniform after a day at my private catholic school?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Luminelle

Was I asking for it and wearing slutty clothes when my 6 year old self was raped in her uniform after a day at my private catholic school?

Yes. The question is, have you ever repented and asked to forgive you?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Luminelle

Was I asking for it and wearing slutty clothes when my 6 year old self was raped in her uniform after a day at my private catholic school?

Girl, if you went to Catholic school, you were begging for it.

Have you made an introduction thread yet? I don't recall seeing one...

[DemonThinker96]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

Yes. The question is, have you ever repented and asked to forgive you?

????? Why would you ask for forgiveness for being raped?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DemonThinker96

????? Why would you ask for forgiveness for being raped?

God does not allow misfortune to befall those who believe in the Savior Jesus Christ and pray for His Blessing. If you are raped, this is evidence that you have failed Jesus. The Bible lays quite plain that Christian prayers are answered. Does it not? Consider Matthew 7:7-8

7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye
shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh
findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by DemonThinker96

????? Why would you ask for forgiveness for being raped?

Back in Biblical times, a shepherd would be responsible for the safety of the flock. Most sheep stay close to the shepherd, and will come when he calls for they know his voice to be one of security and provision. Sometimes a sheep would wander and not come back even when called. The shepherd would go and find the lost sheep and bring it back. If one sheep continued to defy the shepherd and refuse to come when called, the shepherd would break the leg of the sheep to prevent it from getting lost again and getting hurt, or worse, eaten by wolves. There's a reason Jesus is called the Great Shepherd. A sinner who refuses to heed the voice of her shepherd puts herself and the entire community in danger, and defies the rightful authority of the shepherd. For this reason she should ask forgiveness. The shepherd always knows better than the sheep.

I hope this helps.

[Adam Fag]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

Back in Biblical times, a shepherd would be responsible for the safety of the flock. Most sheep stay close to the shepherd, and will come when he calls for they know his voice to be one of security and provision. Sometimes a sheep would wander and not come back even when called. The shepherd would go and find the lost sheep and bring it back. If one sheep continued to defy the shepherd and refuse to come when called, the shepherd would break the leg of the sheep to prevent it from getting lost again and getting hurt, or worse, eaten by wolves. There's a reason Jesus is called the Great Shepherd. A sinner who refuses to heed the voice of her shepherd puts herself and the entire community in danger, and defies the rightful authority of the shepherd. For this reason she should ask forgiveness. The shepherd always knows better than the sheep.

I hope this helps.

Your quote "Sometimes a sheep would wander and not come back even when called. The shepherd would go and find the lost sheep and bring it back."

Like this?

and all the rest are left in the fold for wolves to eat? If they were safe in the fold, they'd not need a man to care for them would they? But the 1 sheep was saved. Let's run with that Eth.

So who cares for the wolf? If its food is "kept safe" from wolves, do all the wolves starve?

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

Originally Posted by Adam Fag

Your quote "Sometimes a sheep would wander and not come back even when called. The shepherd would go and find the lost sheep and bring it back."

Like this?

and all the rest are left in the fold for wolves to eat? If they were safe in the fold, they'd not need a man to care for them would they? But the 1 sheep was saved. Let's run with that Eth.

So who cares for the wolf? If its food is "kept safe" from wolves, do all the wolves starve?

"The shephard always knows better than sheep"

Matt. 18:12–14

If you had read the Bible, You'd know that the lost lamb is much more valuable than these 99 who have stayed. That is why good Christians are always looking for hookers etc. - to give them glorious life with Jesus!!!

Matt. 9:12

[Adam Fag]

As we saw in my last post, the wolf gets left out of God's plan. Let's say I'm a wolf. I only eat meat. A fish, a bird, a sheep. And I spot one. Lunch. I drool.

Psalm 50:10-12 For every beast of the forest is mine is mine and the cattle upon a thousand hills. I know all the fowls of the mountains and the wild beasts of the field are mine. If I were hungry I would not tell thee for the world is mine and the fulness thereof.

I crouch down, I creep up to eat it. "Yum," I think. "Lunch" but then just as I pounce it gets snatched from me.

What can I eat? The sheep gets fed, the birds get fed - but I don't. What sort of plan is that?

Matt 6:25-26 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

But the wolf, one of God's beasts, does need to take thought. Are not the sheep in the fold more at risk than the one who had strayed?