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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 12-12-2013, 09:54 PM

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You're mincing words that are precise by their very nature.

You: "No it means to discipline them."

Any person who has read the Bible: "And what form of discipline does the Bible proscribe?"

You: "Um...I don't know."

Any person who has read the Bible: "The rod."

You: Exits stage left with defeated look on your face.

I did not say don't use a rod. I said discipline them for wrong doings, if you hit them before they are born, they would have nothing to do wrong because they have not been out to do anything.

If you can find a verse that says, "Hit your child for no reason" I would like to see it.


Also, Colossians 3:21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they to be discouraged.
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 12-12-2013, 10:07 PM

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I did not say don't use a rod. I said discipline them for wrong doings, if you hit them before they are born, they would have nothing to do wrong because they have not been out to do anything.

If you can find a verse that says, "Hit your child for no reason" I would like to see it.


Also, Colossians 3:21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they to be discouraged.
Maybe you should start by reading the entire thread. All of your "concerns" have been answered numerous times.



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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 12-12-2013, 10:17 PM

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It meanes you hate your children if you spare them from discipline
No, it says the one who spared the rod, hate children. Just like Jesus says it, if you do not use the rod you are a child hating monster. In any case, using the rod is an act of love.

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 12-13-2013, 12:09 PM

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No, it says the one who spared the rod, hate children. Just like Jesus says it, if you do not use the rod you are a child hating monster. In any case, using the rod is an act of love.

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
The rod is referring to discipline, so when it says the rod it is meaning discipline.
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 12-13-2013, 12:28 PM

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The rod is referring to discipline, so when it says the rod it is meaning discipline.
God doesn't stutter, son. He knows the word discipline, and is fully capable of using it when He wants to convey its meaning in a sentence.

Only a false prophet would change the words of the Bible around, claiming it means something other than what it says.


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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 12-13-2013, 01:00 PM

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The rod is referring to discipline, so when it says the rod it is meaning discipline.
What is your rationale for concluding that Jesus meant discipline when He actually used the word 'rod'?

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Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 12-14-2013, 09:47 AM

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The rod is referring to discipline, so when it says the rod it is meaning discipline.
You are altering the Bible.

Deuteronomy 4:2, Revelation 22:18-19 and Psalm 12:6-7 make very clear that it is not allowed to alter the Bible and that those who do it anyway, that means you, will be severely punished. So if anything bad happens to you now or in the near future you now know exactly what caused it!


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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 12-16-2013, 10:33 AM

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I did not say don't use a rod. I said discipline them for wrong doings, if you hit them before they are born, they would have nothing to do wrong because they have not been out to do anything.

If you can find a verse that says, "Hit your child for no reason" I would like to see it.


Also, Colossians 3:21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they to be discouraged.
Child, we are all conceived in sin. Hence the unborn child has commited sins and needs to be chastened. Simple eh?


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For behold, the Lord wil come with fire, and with his charets like a whirlewinde, to render his anger with furie, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 01-31-2018, 09:12 PM

With my daughter's selfish weight gain (how will Mr. Etheldreda betroth her to anyone with that pudgey belly?), this is timely advice. When she does get married, I'll remind her that if she doesn't want a rebellious disappointment for a child, she should encourage prophylactic hitting as soon as the Pastors say it's developmentally okay.


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Jesus Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 02-01-2018, 04:22 PM

Sister Mary,


The LORD GOD spake unto me and told me that your daughter's selfish weight gain is temporary. He said it's only a matter of months until that weight comes out of her. PRAISE HIS NAME!


He also said to be sure she continues to take vitamins and sees a doctor regularly until the weight comes off - just in case.


He also said something about a "new person" entering your household, which I suppose means that your child will be like a new person once she is no longer fat and ugly - I don't know.


GLORY TO GOD!
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Lord, may I serve my equine brothers and sisters just as I do my fellow man.
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