[Ixi]

Tell us, right now, how he exists besides the bible.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Ixi

Tell us, right now, how he exists besides the bible.

What more do you need? The Bible says Emperor Tiberius Caesar and King Herod the Great existed. Are they now suddenly made up people because the Bible mentions them?

[SalvationSeeker]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

What more do you need? The Bible says Emperor Tiberius Caesar and King Herod the Great existed. Are they now suddenly made up people because the Bible mentions them?

Good point, brother.

It's the same with Heaven and Hell, the Bible also mentions Jerusalem and Babylon..
But since you unsaved trash claim the Bible to be false (May Jesus forgive you!), Babylon and Jerusalem didn't exist either.
Yet they clearly did (and Jerusalem still does), so how do you explain that?

Same goes for, for example, Egypt. Egypt (sadly) exist.
Heaven and Hell are VERY REAL, and unless you turn to Jesus, you will end up in the second one;

Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark 9:44

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Ixi

Here here! If Jesus rapes and kills, who would want to worship the ol` fartface?

Since when was God a rapist? And if Jesus is a killer (which He is), surely worshipping him would be the sensible choice for anyone who didn't want to go through the Second Death?

[Ixi]

Whats the Second Death? Hell?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by Ixi

Whats the Second Death? Hell?

You'll find out soon enough, but in the meantime, you might as well look it up in the Bible:

Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

[Ixi]

Bah, theres no such thing.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Ixi

Bah, theres no such thing.

You may not believe in Jesus Christ or satan, but I can assure you that THEY believe in you little miss. And satan, he loves that surprised look on people's faces when they arrive in hell and realize how badly they have screwed up. Doesn't he just?

[Ixi]

And you may not believe in The God and the Goddess, but you will be suprised when you die and there is no hell to look down upon.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Ixi

And you may not believe in The God and the Goddess, but you will be suprised when you die and there is no hell to look down upon.

OK! Now we're getting somewhere.

I assume that you have proof and evidence to back up your claims of "Gods and Goddesses"?

You have been in here mocking Jesus for weeks now, demanding over and over again that we produce some sort of proof. Well, nows your chance. Convert us to your satanic cult beliefs by dazzling us with hard evidence of your imaginary friends.....We're all waiting.

[hellion]

Originally Posted by Brother Temperance

Since when was God a rapist? And if Jesus is a killer (which He is), surely worshipping him would be the sensible choice for anyone who didn't want to go through the Second Death?

"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes a duty."
Why do you worship a god that you have to fear? There is no fear in love. Even the bible tells you that. And I never heard of Jesus killing anyone...

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by hellion

"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes a duty."
Why do you worship a god that you have to fear? There is no fear in love. Even the bible tells you that. And I never heard of Jesus killing anyone...

Because to fear the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, duh.
Deuteronomy 6:13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Don't be a fool - accept Jesus today, before He kills you.
Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

[hellion]

Originally Posted by Brother Temperance

Because to fear the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, duh.
Deuteronomy 6:13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Don't be a fool - accept Jesus today, before He kills you.
Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

The bible tells you to love and fear your god. But you can't because it also tells you that there is no fear in love. So which is it? Or is your book being contradictory again?

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by hellion

The bible tells you to love and fear your god. But you can't because it also tells you that there is no fear in love. So which is it? Or is your book being contradictory again?

Both. Often, God may work in ways that seem difficult for us to understand, but which is more plausible - a puny human misunderstanding something, or the omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe being wrong? The latter doesn't sound very likely, does it?

[hellion]

Originally Posted by Brother Temperance

Both. You can't do both. Even the bible says that.
Often, God may work in ways that seem difficult for us to understand, but which is more plausible - a puny human misunderstanding something, or the omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe being wrong? The latter doesn't sound very likely, does it?

Well...if that creator of the universe DIDN'T EXIST then I guess he could never be wrong...

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

Originally Posted by hellion

The bible tells you to love and fear your god. But you can't because it also tells you that there is no fear in love. So which is it? Or is your book being contradictory again?

Oh deary me!

Ms. Hellbound, Fear is a form of respect and respect means to love.

For example, I love and fear Pastor Zeke. I love him, so I make him tasty meals, however, if I burn his steak, I am sure to be reprimanded with a spanking or a quick back hand. After all, I deserved it. I disappointed him AND ruined a perfectly good steak.

I hope this clears this up for you.

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1st Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1st Corinthians 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.

1st Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1st Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

1st Timothy 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Ephesians 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord

Titus 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

1st Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

1st Peter 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.


With Love and Compassion, Sister Thumper

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

Originally Posted by BibleThumpinBlonde

Oh deary me!

Ms. Hellbound, Fear is a form of respect and respect means to love.

For example, I love and fear Pastor Zeke. I love him, so I make him tasty meals, however, if I burn his steak, I am sure to be reprimanded with a spanking or a quick back hand. After all, I deserved it. I disappointed him AND ruined a perfectly good steak.

I hope this clears this up for you.

With Love and Compassion, Sister Thumper

Precisely. He that spareth his rod hateth his son (Proverbs 13,24). God raises His children the way a loving father should raise his sons. God knows the chastening is unpleasant, but He also assures us that one day we will thank Him for it.

Hebrews 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Hebrews 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Hebrews 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Hebrews 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Hebrews 12:10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Hebrews 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

Don't forget: Father knows best.