[satan's favorite holeboy]

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man

Can you explain why you think this?

well for all the flaming I am receiving, I cannot help but think you think I fail as a human... I really just don't understand how people of GOD can be so cruel?

[A Follower]

God isn't the one making you fail as a human, it is your own choice to either follow in His path or to damn yourself.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

well for all the flaming I am receiving, I cannot help but think you think I fail as a human... I really just don't understand how people of GOD can be so cruel?

It's called tough love. It's meant to gently guide yo to eternal salvation.

You have been doing well by reading the KJV1611 Bible a few times. Now you just have to do what it says. Always.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man

Yo Pastor Bizzle-Rizzle

Bizzle-Rizzle is a puppet I bought in a toy store at Broadway at the Beach. It has proved to be an effective tool in my youth ministry.

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

if they learn to accept the Lord Jesus Christ as their one and only true savior, if they are stuck down at that moment, they will be allowed into the Kingdom of Heaven for making the conscious decision.

That's true, but what if they aren't struck down at that moment? Do you know the difference between a true and false convert?

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

I mean, no, I do not devote every waking moment to Our Savior because I have a social life, and I have classes and a job to attend (scratch that, I was just fired today because our company was downsizing, and I am only a part-time employee due to my education), but i try to make time for The Lord whenever I have a second.

The LORD should come first. Remember, it's Thy will be done, not my will be done. If you trust God, you don't have to worry about your own needs, because you know God will take care of you.

Pay close attention to this passage from Matthew 6. This is Jesus talking.

25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

You don't need to think about what you will have to drink, eat, or wear, because life is more important.

26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

God takes care of the birds, and you are more important than they are.

28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

God takes care of the flowers, and you are more important than they are.


31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

Again, you don't need to think about what you will have to drink, eat, or wear. God knows what you need. That smiley face appears in the original KJV text, so you know God is looking out for you.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Seek ye first the kingdom of God. God comes first in your life, before anything. If you seek God first, he will take care of all of your needs.

34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Take no thought for tomorrow. God will take care of tomorrow.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben

Bizzle-Rizzle is a puppet I bought in a toy store at Broadway at the Beach. It has proved to be an effective tool in my youth ministry.

Yes, I noticed the link.

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

well for all the flaming I am receiving, I cannot help but think you think I fail as a human... I really just don't understand how people of GOD can be so cruel?

You're only 12 years old, right? We're adults here, and we don't want to be picking on defenseless kids, no matter how smart they think they are.

I think the problem started when you entered this thread "what's wrong with you people", which is a blatant attack on LBC, with your threat of "BIBLE FIGHT". If you really care about Jesus and want to discuss your spirituality maturely with other MEN, then you might try a new tactic.

The user handle is a big giveaway, too. You think Christians take kindly to trolls? How much effort do you think we should make to try to save them before we're done?

[satan's favorite holeboy]

Originally Posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben

Bizzle-Rizzle is a puppet I bought in a toy store at Broadway at the Beach. It has proved to be an effective tool in my youth ministry.


That's true, but what if they aren't struck down at that moment? Do you know the difference between a true and false convert?


The LORD should come first. Remember, it's Thy will be done, not my will be done. If you trust God, you don't have to worry about your own needs, because you know God will take care of you.

Pay close attention to this passage from Matthew 6. This is Jesus talking.

25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

You don't need to think about what you will have to drink, eat, or wear, because life is more important.

26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

God takes care of the birds, and you are more important than they are.

28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

God takes care of the flowers, and you are more important than they are.


31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

Again, you don't need to think about what you will have to drink, eat, or wear. God knows what you need. That smiley face appears in the original KJV text, so you know God is looking out for you.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Seek ye first the kingdom of God. God comes first in your life, before anything. If you seek God first, he will take care of all of your needs.

34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Take no thought for tomorrow. God will take care of tomorrow.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

HOOOLLLYYYY scripture buddy... I'm sorry but I will not real all of that. I am getting the idea that I am at least on the right track, but I need to disregard all my friends and family and alcohol and everything that is important to me and become 100% devoted to the Lord. I am not quite sure that I can lose my friends just like that because I want to hope that God is real and I may have Lucifer's thorny tallywhacker put in my rectum. However, if i do not believe in a heaven, why should i fear hell? Let alone a bunch of old, lonely, pedophile, rednecks, and crazy old ladies who give infractions for posting my IQ results when they were requested?

BTW: Pastor Zeke... Pretty boy... you are hilarious!!! I wish i could bottle up the irony that is your life and unleash its comedy at the most awkward of times

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

HOOOLLLYYYY scripture buddy... I'm sorry but I will not real all of that.

And yet you claim to have read the KJV1611 several times. I am starting to wonder about your honesty.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

HOOOLLLYYYY scripture buddy... I'm sorry but I will not real all of that.

According to your own testimony, you have already read the whole Bible. A review of a mere 10 verses couldn't hurt, could it?

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

I am getting the idea that I am at least on the right track, but I need to disregard all my friends and family and alcohol and everything that is important to me and become 100% devoted to the Lord.

Are you saying that the Lord is not part of "everything that is important" to you? The Lord should be the most important thing.

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

However, if i do not believe in a heaven, why should i fear hell?

Oh, so you're one of those atheists, here to mock our deeply held beliefs. Well don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[satan's favorite holeboy]

Originally Posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben

According to your own testimony, you have already read the whole Bible. A review of a mere 10 verses couldn't hurt, could it?


Are you saying that the Lord is not part of "everything that is important" to you? The Lord should be the most important thing.


Oh, so you're one of those atheists, here to mock our deeply held beliefs. Well don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

no i have read it but i have been drinking so i dont feel like reading it right now. Jesus Christ is very important to me, however, i do feel that my friends and family are slightly more important. i am indifferent about heaven or hell, as i do trust science, nutas i said, i am trying to change my ways. I apologize for delay, i was playing billiards with my roommate

[satan's favorite holeboy]

I guess I should have mentioned that I have a terrible addiction to alcohol, and I recognize the fact that I need help, and I guess I think I am trying to find help and salvation through Our Lord, and those who support Him and His ideals

[satan's favorite holeboy]

ok so I confess I am a sinner and I need help and you all abandon me?? Some Children of God you all are...

[A Follower]

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

ok so I confess I am a sinner and I need help and you all abandon me?? Some Children of God you all are...

Do you know what time it is? Please don't insult us, just because you thought billiards is more important than your eternal life. Second we're not catlicks who expect you to confess your sins and then tell you to repeat a bunch of prayers, all you have to do are things you can do by yourself: stop sinning, accept Jesus as your savior, ask Him for forgiveness of your sins, study the King James 1611 Bible, and get baptized.

[satan's favorite holeboy]

Originally Posted by A Follower

Do you know what time it is? Please don't insult us, just because you thought billiards is more important than your eternal life. Second we're not catlicks who expect you to confess your sins and then tell you to repeat a bunch of prayers, all you have to do are things you can do by yourself: stop sinning, accept Jesus as your savior, ask Him for forgiveness of your sins, study the King James 1611 Bible, and get baptized.

i am baptized in the roman catholic church and i have read KJV quite a few times. its more of a question to me as to whether there is a God or not, that seems to be the undying question in every religious debate i have taken part in, and i have heard nothing convincing from either side

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

I guess I should have mentioned that I have a terrible addiction to alcohol, and I recognize the fact that I need help, and I guess I think I am trying to find help and salvation through Our Lord, and those who support Him and His ideals

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

ok so I confess I am a sinner and I need help and you all abandon me?? Some Children of God you all are...

Friend, I want nothing more than for you to become Saved®. I think it's the booze talking when you make idiotic remarks on this board, so I won't hold it against you. I am glad that you have made the first step in admitting you are a sinner. You must realize without Christ, you are a worthless, pathetic insect, not even human.

Yet, you can change that. The blood of Jesus Christ can wash all your sins away and you will be granted the keys to the Kingdom of God. Isn't that wonderful? To know such a treasure can be given to you just by your own choice? I want you to say this prayer, right now, out loud, and with full honesty and humility. Are you ready?

Dear Lord Jesus,

I know that I am worthless. I know I am completely pathetic and miserable, dirty, evil, sinful, disgusting. I am the lowest of lows. I am a worm. Less than a worm. I don't even deserve to live. In short, I am exactly as you have created me. Dear wonderful, perfect God, I beg you for forgiveness for having been born imperfectly. I beg and plead down on my knees that I not be sent into a fire to be tormented and tortured forever and ever and ever because a distant ancestor of mine ate the wrong fruit. I ask You, who are perfect in mercy, to please try to find some way of receiving me into Your Eternal Kingdom even though I have disgraced You by not worshiping and adoring you up till now. So I ask that you pour the blood of Your only Son who is Yourself and died temporarily on the cross for me. I understand that this is the only way You could ever forgive me, oh Divine Master. I accept You as my personal savior, from now on I'll do absolutely everything you tell me to do. I'll follow the rules of the Bible to the letter and never sin again. I pray this in the name of You and of Your Father, and of the Holy Spirit who conceived You and is also You. Amen.

[satan's favorite holeboy]

Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

Friend, I want nothing more than for you to become Saved®. I think it's the booze talking when you make idiotic remarks on this board, so I won't hold it against you. I am glad that you have made the first step in admitting you are a sinner. You must realize without Christ, you are a worthless, pathetic insect, not even human.

Yet, you can change that. The blood of Jesus Christ can wash all your sins away and you will be granted the keys to the Kingdom of God. Isn't that wonderful? To know such a treasure can be given to you just by your own choice? I want you to say this prayer, right now, out loud, and with full honesty and humility. Are you ready?

Dear Lord Jesus,

I know that I am worthless. I know I am completely pathetic and miserable, dirty, evil, sinful, disgusting. I am the lowest of lows. I am a worm. Less than a worm. I don't even deserve to live. In short, I am exactly as you have created me. Dear wonderful, perfect God, I beg you for forgiveness for having been born imperfectly. I beg and plead down on my knees that I not be sent into a fire to be tormented and tortured forever and ever and ever because a distant ancestor of mine ate the wrong fruit. I ask You, who are perfect in mercy, to please try to find some way of receiving me into Your Eternal Kingdom even though I have disgraced You by not worshiping and adoring you up till now. So I ask that you pour the blood of Your only Son who is Yourself and died temporarily on the cross for me. I understand that this is the only way You could ever forgive me, oh Divine Master. I accept You as my personal savior, from now on I'll do absolutely everything you tell me to do. I'll follow the rules of the Bible to the letter and never sin again. I pray this in the name of You and of Your Father, and of the Holy Spirit who conceived You and is also You. Amen.

I am going to be blatantly honest with you, and please pardon my french (I know you hate those kind around here anyway). But i started reading this and thought wow... this guy is a real a$$h0le... and then i thought WOW I am a real a$$hole. But then I had a thought. I am worthless and all that other junk, and I am created in God's image?? That prayer is saying God himself is worthless?? Kind of confusing.
Also, I understand I have made MANY poor choices, but do I really have to degrade myself by saying I am a waste of a life to Our Savior? He knows it, and He knows I know it, and am I really a waste of a life anymore if i accept Him into my heart and my life? or is that what being saved is all about? that you ARE worthless until you accept Jesus. I guess that kind of makes sense... But if that is true, there are a TON!, and let me tell you, being a college student, A TOONNNN!!!! of worthless pieces of crap much worse than I. Is there any hope for them?

[NewlySaved]

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

its more of a question to me as to whether there is a God or not, that seems to be the undying question in every religious debate i have taken part in, and i have heard nothing convincing from either side

Here's some food for thought. The USA is the greatest country in the world. We help more of our neighbors than anyone else despite the criticism and for nothing in return. We pledge allegiance to our flag UNDER GOD for a reason. IN GOD WE TRUST for a reason. If that isn't enough here's some more common sensical proof of the LORD: Take a look at yourself. Do the complex systems of your body appear to have come together by mere chance? You are a human being. The greatest species to have ever been created. The VAST majority of humans all agree in the existence of our God. These points are based on PURE COMMON SENSE ALONE which I have presented with the hope that you have some! Now I suggest you remove the seeds of doubt sewn into your mind by Satan, the great deceiver, and accept the LORD as your savior from the wonderful college friends of which you speak.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

ok so I confess I am a sinner and I need help and you all abandon me?? Some Children of God you all are...

Impatient eh, I can relate to that. I have been busy making sure one of my sons is working hard on my new sprinkler system, but that is another story.

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

its more of a question to me as to whether there is a God or not, that seems to be the undying question in every religious debate i have taken part in, and i have heard nothing convincing from either side

Then you have not been listening. I also highly doubt that you, as you claim, have been reading the Holy Bible.

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

I am going to be blatantly honest with you

Sure...

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

then i thought WOW I am a real a$$hole

Finally you are getting the message.

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

but do I really have to degrade myself by saying I am a waste of a life to Our Savior?

You have to be honest to God and that my friend is the truth about you.

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

that you ARE worthless until you accept Jesus

Yes it does mean that.

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

But if that is true, there are a TON!, and let me tell you, being a college student, A TOONNNN!!!! of worthless pieces of crap much worse than I. Is there any hope for them?

Only for a very few of them.

Praise the LORD!

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

Jesus Christ is very important to me, however, i do feel that my friends and family are slightly more important.

That's exactly the wrong attitude to have. Here is what Jesus had to say on the matter. I know you don't like to read scripture but this is only one verse so you should be OK.

Matt 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Jesus shouldn't merely be "very important" to you. Jesus should be the most important thing in your life.

Originally Posted by RU4Rizzle???

ok so I confess I am a sinner and I need help and you all abandon me?? Some Children of God you all are...

It was after midnight when you posted and I'm an old man. I was asleep.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[GOD=life]

The Bible is no joke, son.

Do you want people to go Hell?