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Default Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-16-2012, 01:02 AM

If you're like most True Christian™ parents, you don't allow your daughter to date at all. That safeguard, of course, is intended to prevent your daughter from fornicating with boys.*

It never occurred to me, however, that dating within the sanctity of the family unit might be permissible, and perhaps even serve as a healthy outlet for the energy your daughter might otherwise expend on trying to "hook up" with males she is not related to.

I got this revelation today from reading a conversation currently taking place on Dr. Laura Schlesinger's Facebook page:



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Now, obviously, Dr. Laura is still in her pre-perfected, pre-Christian state, but that lady has a solid understanding of Old Testament law, and I have a strong feeling she will soon blossom into belief in our Lord, much as a butterfly inevitably emerges from a cocoon.

Just the same, I would be very interested to hear your opinions on whether daddy/daughter dating is based on sound Biblical principles.

I am a bit concerned that many of Dr. Laura's respondents seem to think it's a great idea for fathers to repeatedly tell their daughters how beautiful and special they are. The Bible does prescribe a very different kind of training:

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Proverbs 31:30

Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
Dads, I'd be especially interested in hearing from you regarding your idea of the perfect date: If you were to take your daughter out on a date, how would you go about filling the evening with activities and experiences which specifically teach her to fear the Lord?




*Naturally, several hours of farm work will also accomplish this goal, but in these post-agrarian, post-industrial times, how many families live on or near a farm?


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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-16-2012, 01:22 AM

While I do like the idea of keeping children from forming extra-familial relationships with people their own age, I am concerned that being too nice to a daughter would get in the way of cultivating the intra-familial hatred that Jesus preached.

Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.


Instead of telling daughters how beautiful and special they are, perhaps fathers could use the occasion to belittle them and reinforce their innate worthlessness that can only be corrected through faith in Christ.


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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-17-2012, 05:36 AM

That's a good point, Jedediah!

I'm kind of surprised nobody else has chimed in. Landover dads, I'm really very interested in having each of you design your ideal daddy/daughter date! Where would you take her, and what would you do during this special evening to really drive home the message that she is to fear the LORD?


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Instead of telling daughters how beautiful and special they are, perhaps fathers could use the occasion to belittle them and reinforce their innate worthlessness that can only be corrected through faith in Christ.
Brother, that's an excellent point. It would help the young lady to learn her place, so she wouldn't try to place inappropriate demands upon her future husband.


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Do you have a daughter, Reverend Rodimer? What kind of date would you take her on in order to instill in her a proper fear of the Lord?


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Do you have a daughter, Reverend Rodimer? What kind of date would you take her on in order to instill in her a proper fear of the Lord?
I've never married, Brother FM, and have never fornicated, so I'm reasonably certain that I have no daughters. I do have two nieces, however, and often have them over individually for "Uncle RevRod" nights!

In a typical evening, the niece in question will prepare a nice dinner for me; tell me how she's doing at school; practice light conversation -- you know, ask how my day was, see what sort of things I want from the store, what kind of pie I'd like her to make that night for the next day -- and she will read the Bible aloud for me. She'll also usually play piano and maybe sing hymns for Jesus. (One's singing will send you to Heaven! The other . . . well, it's a "joyful noise", for sure.)

After dinner and dessert, she'll clean up and demonstrate her housekeeping skills. Sometimes, I'll have her practice mending (darning socks, that sort of thing).

It's like my very own Home Economics course for each of my nieces. I want them to have happy marriages, and all this practice should be a great help to them!

I may be spoiling them a bit, but that's what uncles are for, isn't it?


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Oh, that sounds very nice! I'll bet they look forward to it all week.

Do you think either of them gets jealous of the other when it's not her night to be visiting with you? Maybe you could avoid this by entertaining both of them at the same time?


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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-18-2012, 05:22 AM

While the secular community would obviously turn this type of discussion into a sexual, fornicating, slimy, greasy, germ infested conversation; it is obvious they are missing the point.

What a father needs to teach his daughter is submissiveness, obedience, rubbing her daddys feet and what a well timed smack across the face means.

This is Christianity, this is love... this is what we are meant to be as fathers. We are not to be viewed as some sperm filled monsters lusting after the firm young bodies of our daughters. This is an outrage.

We must learn and also teach the secular perverts that a firm smack across our daughters firm buttocks over and over and over again until they are nice and red is what Christianity is all about. Not some sex induced thought process brought on by satan. May God grant strength to us all in these matters.
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I wish my Daddy would've spent more time with me sober. And my stupid Mom's boyfriend was such a jerk and a pervert!

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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-18-2012, 05:54 AM

I'm confused. Why would a Daddy go on a "date" with his daughter in preparation of marriage?

My husband never takes me out.

Preparation is more helpful when it includes such skills as how to sort laundry, how to stretch a dollar, how to clean the grout between the tiles and how to keep the bathroom from smelling like urine.


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I wish my Daddy would've spent more time with me sober. And my stupid Mom's boyfriend was such a jerk and a pervert!

If I had a True Christian™ Daddy, I'm sure I would've been saved waaaaaaaaay sooner!


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My soul weeps at the treatment you have received Sister Tammi.

Being sober is the only way you can feel the powerfull gushing of the Lord's love spewing thru your insides as your Daddy whispers your Saviour's sweet love in your ear.

The length and magnitude of His love as you are gently carressed and prodded is the only thing that can bring that sweet safety you deserve and that our Lord has professed for you.

I am on my knees praying the our Sweet Baby Jesus may only bring you to this glorious salvation and healing which can only be experienced thru a daughter and her Daddy. My prayers are with you sweet child. God bless.

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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-18-2012, 06:13 AM

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I'm confused. Why would a Daddy go on a "date" with his daughter in preparation of marriage?

My husband never takes me out.

Preparation is more helpful when it includes such skills as how to sort laundry, how to stretch a dollar, how to clean the grout between the tiles and how to keep the bathroom from smelling like urine.



That last one's simple: Instead of leaving the toilet seat down, and thus enabling girls to never develop proper pee control, you have to remove the toilet seat altogether. This is the only way of making sure they'll learn how to to control their urine stream while properly hovering over a toilet.

No man wants a bride who's going to turn into a screaming shrew the minute he forgets to put the toilet seat down; he wants a wife who knows how to quietly play the bathroom cards she's been dealt, and not make a puddly mess in the process.


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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-18-2012, 06:33 AM

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I'm confused. Why would a Daddy go on a "date" with his daughter in preparation of marriage?

My husband never takes me out.

Preparation is more helpful when it includes such skills as how to sort laundry, how to stretch a dollar, how to clean the grout between the tiles and how to keep the bathroom from smelling like urine.
It is confusing isn't it Sister Mary? But dating and feeling true love from a man (like your father) helps you to feel love in doing the more mundane tasks as making the toilet not smell like urine and rubbing your Daddy's feet after a long day at work supervising the field negroes.

Jesus wants you to feel loved in everything you do. That is why He has put a man to supervise and look over you when you get frustated.

Christ does not expect a simple minded woman to understand everything which is why he created man first and created women from one of our useless rib bones.
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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-18-2012, 10:00 PM

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Christ does not expect a simple minded woman to understand everything which is why he created man first and created women from one of our useless rib bones.
Well it's no secret I don't understand, but clearly God doesn't want me to understand, just to trust.

And trust I shall because the Holy Bible tells me God's ways are perfect!

He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
Deuteronomy 32:4

As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.
Psalm 18:30

...the LORD is upright: he is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in him.
Psalm 92:15

As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.
2 Samuel 22:3


(I don't know what a "buckler" is, but it must be good if God is one)


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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I may be spoiling them a bit, but that's what uncles are for, isn't it?
I would suggest subtly undermining their self confidence and seeking to isolate them from their other social connections. This avoids the possibility of spoiling her and her future husband will thank you for saving him a good couple of months work

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(I don't know what a "buckler" is, but it must be good if God is one)
What amazing intelligence and foreskin foresight you demonstrate Sister. God (aka: your Daddy) has a special place in His arms for you.
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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-20-2012, 03:34 AM

This is a fantastic idea and I think that a young girl's uncle has some responsibility to educate the young lady, too. I'm not suggesting that he needs to accompany the father on his date, but should maybe it would be a good idea for him to make an effort to take the young lady out once a month for a meal to give her some tips on how to look for and handle a man and not let him take advantage of her.


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This is a fantastic idea and I think that a young girl's uncle has some responsibility to educate the young lady, too. I'm not suggesting that he needs to accompany the father on his date, but should maybe it would be a good idea for him to make an effort to take the young lady out once a month for a meal to give her some tips on how to look for and handle a man and not let him take advantage of her.
Since I don't have any daughters of my own, only sons (thank Jesus!), I have not been closely following this thread. However, Brother Nobar makes a excellent point here. I may not have daughters, but I do have nieces in Colorado. Maybe I should pay them a visit over the summer and take them all on a series of dates.


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Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-21-2012, 10:38 AM

Are you saying that fathers should rape their daughters?!


Leviticus 19:29 (King James Version)

29: Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.
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Default Re: Father/daughter dating: The key to raising virtuous young ladies? - 03-21-2012, 10:47 AM

Wow.

You atheist scum really just cannot imagine that anyone might not be interested in rape, can you. Let me guess - you think fathers should anally rape their daughters, just so they can get in their daily quota of anal sex.

Life with no moral compass really is a helter skelter of sodomy and perversions.

No. Noone is suggesting that.
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