[Myron Pollard]

Originally Posted by JRFinn

Assuming that god existed, and that he worked on such a karma-like principle, why wouldn't he just have you raped? Forcing an innocent party to suffer for your sins is unambiguously the act of a cruel being.

Your sacrilege over the Word of God is bordering insanity.Should I call your state CPS?

[JRFinn]

I told you already, I'm 20 years old. I know that's not an adult to LBC, but it is to the law.

[Meek and Humble]

An innocent person taking the fall for other people's sins is the basic tenet of Christianity!



Everything God does is just, simply by merit of His being God.

[Citan]

Originally Posted by H. Montague Worthington

This happened to my neighbor, Randy. His daughter was brutally raped. But it wasn't his daughter's refusal to marry the rapist that was the problem, it was that Randy didn't want to divorce his wife.

Oh... and what did the bible say that should be done?
Incest + rape + adultery.

[Citan]

What happened to "thou shall not kill"?

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Citan

What happened to "thou shall not kill"?

We don't, read the Bible, those who break The Law kill themselves. The praise is "The blood shall be on their own heads.

[Citan]

Exodus 32 is about revenge for the betrayal of some of Moses' followers for idolizing a false god, the golden calf. Not murder in general. Besides, Moses himself was the one who came down the mountain with the stone tablets where the commandments were written.

And Samuel 15 is about God's vendetta against Amalek for making the people of Israel suffer.

Should you see Amalek on the street or people dancing around a golden calf, feel free to execute them. Otherwise:

Exodus 20
[12] Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
[13] Thou shalt not kill.
[14] Thou shalt not commit adultery.
[15] Thou shalt not steal.
[16] Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
[17] Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

[James Hutchins]

If a man has relations with one of my girls and refuses to marry her, I just take him on a 'guy bonding hunting' trip.

[James Hutchins]

An engaged girl in the country who got raped - kill the man only

That is what we typically have in these parts.

Once a woman is married, she stays on the farm, mostly in the house praying, cooking and cleaning.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Heathen_Basher

Yes, though after she gets married, if she gets raped, you have to kill her, since she committed adultery (Deuteronomy 22:22).

Well, that goes without saying. We call that 'falling down the well' around here.

[thefalsechristian]

Originally Posted by Original Gothster

Hey lady, what's your deal? I've read some stuff around hear and all you ever do is fight with these people. Why? What's the point? You don't got anything better to do?

If you cant see, she is clearly trying to save you from your religion!!!

[Meek and Humble]

Yeah, thanks for dragging up a post from a year ago by a guy who actually isn't part of our religion, just another God-mocker.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by IAmFool

Does it specifically say non-consensual sex? Or does the line "lay hold on her" imply rape?

In the original Hebrew, the word translated as "lay hold on" was "taphas", which means to seize or capture, so the answer to your question is yes.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Religulous]

What do you mean "poor" man? The guy is a rapist for christ sake, God from the old testament would have this guys' head on a stick.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Originally Posted by Religulous

What do you mean "poor" man? The guy is a rapist for christ sake, God from the old testament would have this guys' head on a stick.

Perhaps you'd look less like an uninformed idiot if you'd bother reading the Bible before assuming to say what God would do.

[Yahoo]

Originally Posted by Sister Mary Maria

Perhaps you'd look less like an uninformed idiot if you'd bother reading the Bible before assuming to say what God would do.

and you presume to 'know' this answer? pray tell, which 'version' of the 'truth' do you take side with, and which iteration of the Word of the Lord?

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Yahoo

and you presume to 'know' this answer? pray tell, which 'version' of the 'truth' do you take side with, and which iteration of the Word of the Lord?

There is only one version of the Word of the Lord; KJV1611, written in the original English. God says it, we do and we presume nothing.

[James Hutchins]

Friends, please, lets not point fingers. We have a serious issue that we need to look at with rational clear minds. First, lets do away with all preconceived notions and look at the problem from an honest, devout viewpoint. A man has used a fortunate woman. Why? What compelled the man to do this? What role did the woman play? Was the woman giving the man the 'come hither ' look by sticking her ankles behind her ears like so many do? Or was she seductively teasing him by 'playing hard to get'? If it is the first, who can blame a man? He has an obligation to God to make as many soldiers as possible. He mus seize every opportunity, it is the natural law. No man would dare to go against the law of nature. If it were the second, who could blame a man for being inquisitive? If man were not inquisitive, he would not of learned to read the Good Book, where where would we be? So I fail to see the man having done anything wrong, it is all the female plying her wiles upon the male. A woman should feel honored to raped, to be selected out of all the woman in dark parking garages, to be that special someone. Then to have the audacity to refuse marriage after all the feminine tricks a woman played on the man to get him to mount her, she should be stoned. A woman must feel the honor in being selected to be a mans wife, be it his first of fifth.

[Twitch]

here is how i feel about this whole subject. i feel like the girl has no obligation to marry the boy. sure she may have done things to lure him to her, but he is the one who did the act. if he had any common sense, he would have walked away.

i am from a non-denominational church, i have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. i have dedicated my life to serving Him. i don't see any reason for everyone to be so mean about this subject. also, with all this hatred in this thread, all i have to say is this. Treat they neighbor as thy self. so since everyone is being to mean to the people speaking reason, i am taking the high road and not getting angry

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by Twitch

i feel like the girl has no obligation to marry the boy.

Let's see. One one side, we have you and what you feel like. On the other side, we have God's Word and what it says. The Bible says she is obligated to marry the boy, so now you see how feelings can lead you astray.

I admit I struggled with this one for a while, too. It's part of a larger issue. Sometimes our conscience and feelings will tell us to do something against God's Word. Should we listen to it, or is it a trick or a test? I wrote a sermon on this topic that you can read here: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

Pastor Billy-Reuben