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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-14-2010, 09:53 PM

I believe that in my above post I make that pretty clear. Billions of years allowed for this to happen. Lets say that you have a bunch of ordinary yellow flowers. Now the flowers with the brightest petals are able to attract the most bees because the bees relate the bright colors to a healthy plant, one with a lot of nectar. More bees on average land on this flower, pick up its pollen, and fly off to other plants. Because the beautifully rich colors on that flower attract more bees, that flower passes on its color enhanced genes to the next generation and so forth.

The flower didnt learn anything. Because of its enhanced coloration it was more fit to reproduce, and as such the current day generation of flowers is as vibrant as it is.
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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-14-2010, 11:01 PM

No, you didn't make it clear. I want you to prove you are actually informed about the subject you chatter about. So far, you're just another atheist fallen from grace and landed here, spouting the same old worn out theories and one-liners that True Christians™ have heard a thousand times before.

How did the flower decide pollen was the best way to survive, when did it happen, and why did it happen? All answers your ilk give, when taken back far enough, end up with "we just don't know"

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[14] I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.


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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-14-2010, 11:11 PM

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No, you didn't make it clear. I want you to prove you are actually informed about the subject you chatter about. So far, you're just another atheist fallen from grace and landed here, spouting the same old worn theories and one-liners that True Christians™ have heard a thousand times before.

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The flower didn't decide anything. Flowers don't have free will and can't think for themselves like human beings. Billions of years ago flowers were much more simple, developed from the cells which developed chlorophyl even earlier in their evolutionary paths. At some point during early evolution plant cells developed the ability to sexually reproduce to increase their rates of survival. Through sexual reproduction the best aspects in an organism are allowed to develop further, and these aspects are what differentiate our current day organisms. Eons ago the ancestors of modern day flowers developed pollination as a logical and practical form of sexual reproduction. From that point on the plants which could spread their pollen best would be the plants that would evolve further, into the plants in your garden or in the park. Things happen for a reason you say, but I say there's a reason things happen. The reason plants look the way they do now is because the traits which made them most attractive to pollinators became dominant and thrived through survival of the fittest. The plant didn't decide anything, there is a REASON it functions the way it does.
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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-14-2010, 11:45 PM

Yup, same old empty words, cannibalized and regurgitated from Wikipedia or some other homer friendly source.

Go preach your evilution elsewhere.


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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-14-2010, 11:50 PM

Hand, I'm a plant and soil science major
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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-14-2010, 11:54 PM

I think we know what kind of plants you are interested in.


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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-16-2010, 09:30 PM

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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-19-2010, 06:56 AM

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The flower didn't decide anything. Flowers don't have free will and can't think for themselves like human beings. Billions of years ago flowers were much more simple, developed from the cells which developed chlorophyl even earlier in their evolutionary paths. At some point during early evolution plant cells developed the ability to sexually reproduce to increase their rates of survival. Through sexual reproduction the best aspects in an organism are allowed to develop further, and these aspects are what differentiate our current day organisms. Eons ago the ancestors of modern day flowers developed pollination as a logical and practical form of sexual reproduction. From that point on the plants which could spread their pollen best would be the plants that would evolve further, into the plants in your garden or in the park. Things happen for a reason you say, but I say there's a reason things happen. The reason plants look the way they do now is because the traits which made them most attractive to pollinators became dominant and thrived through survival of the fittest. The plant didn't decide anything, there is a REASON it functions the way it does.
This is the silliest post I have seen in a long time. First, the BIBLE(KJV) tells us how old the earth is. Its 6000 years. There has been no billions of years for ferns to turn into petunias.
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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-19-2010, 07:17 AM

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Lol soil science? They actually have a dirt school? No wonder your a little daft, you've starved your brain. Try feeding it some KJV Bible material and see if that helps.


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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-20-2010, 02:56 AM

You my friend are completely and utterly misled by your own mind or that of others. You choose to see only one side to science and say that it is nothing but evolution, atleast that is how you have presented yourself.
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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-20-2010, 03:00 AM

You in my last post refers to those who say that God hates science and that science is wrong mainly refering to biblethumpingblonde.
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So you think you are a smart person. Yet no one ever thought you that a proper sentence ends with a period. <- This little dot here would be the period.

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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-23-2010, 10:45 PM

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Science always changes, friend.

God never changes.
uhhh... have you seen the differences between old testament god and new testament god. pretty substansial chang there bud.
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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-23-2010, 11:25 PM

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uhhh... have you seen the differences between old testament god and new testament god. pretty substansial chang there bud.
Where did you get that crazy idea? There is nothing more consistent than God!


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Debatable... your stupidity is pretty consistent.
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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-23-2010, 11:33 PM

@mr.realitycheck don't you think people would like you more if you would be nicer to them?


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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-23-2010, 11:43 PM

i don't really care what people think of me. but i started this forum thinking if they ask me a question politely i will give them a polite answer. but i tried that once and someone gave me a foolish and aggresive comeback. so i said to hell with it.
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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-23-2010, 11:46 PM

@mr.realitycheck You could try a positive approach instead. It might change the way people respond to you!


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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-23-2010, 11:48 PM

I think you take our unwillingness to waver in our faith as "foolish and aggressive". It's not so.


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Default Re: Science is the true way - 04-23-2010, 11:53 PM

as i said tried it didn't work. most people on this forum are unwilling to listen to any opinion but their own. i find that sturing the pot is a far more interesting aproach. at least for me.
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