[BibleBeliever]

I can't find it in the Bible. Methinks pansy Christians want to believe aborted spics and niglets are going to heaven, when in fact they're burning in hell without a brain or heart.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by BibleBeliever

I can't find it in the Bible. Methinks pansy Christians want to believe aborted spics and niglets are going to heaven, when in fact they're burning in hell without a brain or heart.

I agree, BB. It appears to be yet another made-up doctrine of the Catholic Cult which has spilled over into mainstream false Christianity.

People don't like to believe that little Andy, run over by a bus at age five, is going to burn in Hell for not having accepted Jesus yet. The Bible gives no indication otherwise.

In fact, if we look at a number of Bible stories, we can see that God's wrath is kindled equally against the children as against the adults:

The Flood: God drowned every human (and animal, for good measure) except Noah and family, because they were the only ones who worshipped Him correctly. That includes infants, and even the unborn.

Job: God allowed Satan to kill off all of Job's family, little ones included, as part of a wager. (It's OK, because at the end, God gave Job better, more attractive children than he had before.)

Sodom and Gomorrah: Do you believe the six-month-old girls were out trying to sodomize angels, too? Of course not, but they were destroyed in the rain of God's Hellfire along with their depraved daddies and enabler mommies.

I'm sure Mary Martin, our Catholic Priestess, will be thrilled to come up with some papal encyclical detailing this so-called "age of accountability", but it's not in God's Word.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

What a wonderful idea for a thread. We have previously had have-a-nice-day Christians-lite come into our forum and rebuke us for not believing in such a thing, but they have never been able to point it out in the Bible. Here are some verses that you can use to rebuke them:

Psalm 51:5: Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (Note that Jesus did not say, "...unless they're too young to believe.")

Followers of fluffy-bunny churchianity may say that that's not fair, but fairness doesn't enter into God's plan for salvation:

Romans 9:18-24: Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will [have mercy], and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

[T-J-R!]

How can a little baby be sent to hell when he or she isn't even old enough to sin yet?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by T-J-R!

How can a little baby be sent to hell when he or she isn't even old enough to sin yet?

Dear friend:

Did you even read the thread before answering? If so, what did you make of the previous posts?

[T-J-R!]

Originally Posted by Pastor Isaac Peters

Dear friend:

Did you even read the thread before answering? If so, what did you make of the previous posts?

God sends people to hell for sinning, isn't that right? They need to believe in Jesus to be forgiven for their sins but what if they aren't old enough to have sinned?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by T-J-R!

God sends people to hell for sinning, isn't that right? They need to believe in Jesus to be forgiven for their sins but what if they aren't old enough to have sinned?

That sounds like a "no" answer to my question. Define "old enough to have sinned," citing Scripture. Be sure you take into account the verse from Psalms quoted above as well as the following:

Romans 3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

[Mister Brasil]

Originally Posted by T-J-R!

God sends people to hell for sinning, isn't that right? They need to believe in Jesus to be forgiven for their sins but what if they aren't old enough to have sinned?

Wouldn't that be nice, if they hadn't yet sinned and could go to Heaven? And all their ignorant, meth-smoking, adolescent mothers could join them there and coo at them?

I'm willing to believe you're just naive. But let me tell you, to any man with eyes, those babies are burning with lustful thoughts.

[Nobar King]

And, what about the babies that are found in the trash bins at the High School Prom? No heaven for you!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

I've done some research into the "age of accountability," and it appears that the false Christians who espouse that particular heresy can't even agree on what the age of accountability is.

[Father Thomas Martin]

So, you say the young ones can't go to heaven? You heartless pieces of heretic slime! You talk about US abusing children, but there's really no bigger child abusers than you!

Get away from the false, angry, child-abusing, fire-breathing god and turn to the One True, merciful, loving God!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by Father Thomas Martin

So, you say the young ones can't go to heaven? You heartless pieces of heretic slime! You talk about US abusing children, but there's really no bigger child abusers than you!

Not quite, papist. It's not about what we say; it's about what God says, through His Word. If you want to go to judgment and call the Almighty a "heartless piece of heretic slime" to His face, go right ahead, but I don't think you'll enjoy the results.

Get away from the false, angry, child-abusing, fire-breathing god and turn to the One True, merciful, loving God!

Oh, the irony!

[Father Thomas Martin]

Originally Posted by Pastor Isaac Peters

Not quite, papist. It's not about what we say; it's about what God says, through His Word.

Which you oh-so-conveniently take out of context just like your father satan.

If you want to go to judgment and call the Almighty a "heartless piece of heretic slime" to His face, go right ahead, but I don't think you'll enjoy the results.

That's not who the One True God is...But I wouldn't be surprised to see you calling Him a "vile papist dog" when you go to your judgement.

Oh, the irony!

How so?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by Father Thomas Martin

Which you oh-so-conveniently take out of context just like your father satan.

Then kindly do tell us what those Scripture passages mean in context.

That's not who the One True God is...But I wouldn't be surprised to see you calling Him a "vile papist dog" when you go to your judgement.

I would never dare presume to call my Lord a vile papist dog. For one thing, His Word doesn't mention any apostolic succession of popes.

How so?

I think you have your god and our God switched. For one thing, as for "child-abusing," is that really such a good argument for a Romanist to use?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Mary Martin

So, you say the young ones can't go to heaven? You heartless pieces of heretic slime!

Please show us where the Bible says that children who are not Saved© go to Heaven. I do believe that was the challenge laid out by Pastor Peters, not "what nasty names can you call True Christians™ yet again?" or "how many times can you spew forth the same anti-Christian, pro-human-"reason", sentimentalist drivel with no Scriptural support?"

You talk about US abusing children, but there's really no bigger child abusers than you!

We don't rape children. That's a Catholic Cult thing, Mary Martin.

Get away from the false, angry, child-abusing, fire-breathing god and turn to the One True, merciful, loving God!

Mary Martin, when you wish to speak to yourself, there's no need to post it here.

However, you are always welcome to turn from your death cult and come to Jesus!