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Originally Posted by Dennis Lukes
So, the same as every other pope from Linus to Francis?
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Given that Linus is mentioned in the Bible, I would give him the benefit of the doubt:
2 Timothy 4:21 Do thy diligence to come before winter. Eubulus greeteth thee, and Pudens, and Linus, and Claudia, and all the brethren.
You do bring up a very important question:
when did bishops of Rome descend from following the Bible into pagan barbarism?
It had to be after the 1st Council of Nicaea (AD 325) and the 1st Council of Constantinople (AD 381), because this is when the
Nicene Creed (text:
) was accepted and its contents are very much Christian - no mention of any funky Mary worship.
The 1st Council of Ephesus (AD 431) and 2nd Council of Constantinople (AD 553) dealt with
dyophysitism (dear reader: don't google that, it will just leave you with a theological headache) of the Nestorian sect, so I'd say, they were still True Christian™.
The Council of Chalcedon (AD 451) dealt with
monophysitism (dear reader: don't google it, either, because it will leave you with the burning question, if
dyophysitism is out, and
monophysitism is also out, then what the hell is left as the correct answer?).
The 3rd Council of Constantinople (AD 680-681) rejected
monothelitism (dear reader: Don't. Even. Think. About. It. You'll go mad trying to understand it).
However, when we get to the 2nd Council of Nicaea (AD 787), now we're talking. This Council has
rejected an early version of
iconoclasm.
Iconoclasm is the view that all images of Jesus, Mary & Co. are blasphemous idols which need to be destroyed. This is the view espoused by True Christians™.
Therefore, in my view, bishops of all Christian dioceses (including the diocese of Rome) could have been True Christians™ up to that point. AD 787.
By condemning iconoclasm, the participants of the 2nd Council of Nicaea have condemned themselves and all of their parishioners to the fiery pits of
.
Hence, to answer your question, Brother Dennis,
the first bishop of Rome who without any question is condemned to Hell is bishop (not "pope" yet - at that time bishops of Rome still recognized they were equals among all bishops of all dioceses)
Adrian I (who held the seat from AD 772 to 795).