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Default Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 01:27 AM

Hello True Christians!

Let me start by saying that i'm not here with the intention of insulting or offending any of the users of this site. I'm hear to learn about your beliefs and ideas and share mine with anyone who is curious about them. I hope we can have a civil discussion and learn something from one another without upsetting each other or stooping to the level of insulting each other.

A little background on my beliefs.
I was raised Catholic and attended a Catholic school. I am vaguely familiar with the bible and Christian beliefs but it has been quite a while. I no longer believe in God but I do not consider myself to be an Atheist. I'm more accurately described as an Agnostic. I believe that the existence (or non-existence) of God or any gods is unknowable. Do I believe there is a God? No, I do not. Do I believe it is possible that there is a deity out there? Yes, I acknowledge the possibility, although if there is a God I personally doubt that it is the one you all worship.

These are my personal beliefs and I do not speak for anyone else.

With that said, let's start the discussion. Feel free to ask me anything.

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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 01:33 AM

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Hello True Christians!

Let me start by saying that i'm not here with the intention of insulting or offending any of the users of this site. I'm hear to learn about your beliefs and ideas and share mine with anyone who is curious about them. I hope we can have a civil discussion and learn something from one another without upsetting each other or stooping to the level of insulting each other.

A little background on my beliefs.
I was raised Catholic and attended a Catholic school. I am vaguely familiar with the bible and Christian beliefs but it has been quite a while. I no longer believe in God but I do not consider myself to be an Atheist. I'm more accurately described as an Agnostic. I believe that the existence (or non-existence) of God or any gods is unknowable. Do I believe there is a God? No, I do not. Do I believe it is possible that there is a deity out there? Yes, I acknowledge the possibility, although if there is a God I personally doubt that it is the one you all worship.

These are my personal beliefs and I do not speak for anyone else.

With that said, let's start the discussion. Feel free to ask me anything.

Thanks!!
Okay, question 1: If you're here to learn about us and our beliefs, why do you want us to ask the questions? Shouldn't it be you asking the questions?
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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 01:38 AM

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Okay, question 1: If you're here to learn about us and our beliefs, why do you want us to ask the questions? Shouldn't it be you asking the questions?
i would be happy to ask questions of you as well and i'm hoping the discussion leads in that direction as well. i'm always excited to learn from others!
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Exclamation Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 01:39 AM

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Hello True Christians!

Let me start by saying that i'm not here with the intention of insulting or offending any of the users of this site. I'm hear to learn about your beliefs and ideas and share mine with anyone who is curious about them. I hope we can have a civil discussion and learn something from one another without upsetting each other or stooping to the level of insulting each other.

A little background on my beliefs.
I was raised Catholic and attended a Catholic school. I am vaguely familiar with the bible and Christian beliefs but it has been quite a while. I no longer believe in God but I do not consider myself to be an Atheist. I'm more accurately described as an Agnostic. I believe that the existence (or non-existence) of God or any gods is unknowable. Do I believe there is a God? No, I do not. Do I believe it is possible that there is a deity out there? Yes, I acknowledge the possibility, although if there is a God I personally doubt that it is the one you all worship.

These are my personal beliefs and I do not speak for anyone else.

With that said, let's start the discussion. Feel free to ask me anything.

Thanks!!


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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 01:54 AM

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Okay, question 1: If you're here to learn about us and our beliefs, why do you want us to ask the questions? Shouldn't it be you asking the questions?
ok here is a question

i saw in the Creation Science sub-forum that there is a thread about the Earth being flat

is this a commonly held belief amongst this community?
this is something new to me. i have met many Christians and as far as i know, not many of them believe that the earth is flat. in fact i was taught that the earth was round in my classes at Catholic school. Is this something that Christians argue about amongst themselves? does the bible make any reference to the shape of the earth? i'm not familiar with any passages.
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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 01:57 AM

I have a question: How can you be an agnostic if there is mountains of evidence for God's existence?

How else could the earth and life have got here? It didn't just pop into existence. It was planned. If you found a watch on the ground, it would be crazy to think that it formed itself. A rational person knows there is a watchmaker, and such is the same as with the world.

Also, if you do read the Bible, you will find that it is inerrant which would be impossible if just written by men. And what about all the prophecies that have come true? Jesus Christ fed 5,000 people with a couple loaves and some fishes -- a miracle -- which was witnessed by thousands. How can you deny all that evidence?
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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 02:00 AM

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Hello True Christians!

Let me start by saying that i'm not here with the intention of insulting or offending any of the users of this site. I'm hear to learn about your beliefs and ideas and share mine with anyone who is curious about them. I hope we can have a civil discussion and learn something from one another without upsetting each other or stooping to the level of insulting each other.

A little background on my beliefs.
I was raised Catholic and attended a Catholic school. I am vaguely familiar with the bible and Christian beliefs but it has been quite a while. I no longer believe in God but I do not consider myself to be an Atheist. I'm more accurately described as an Agnostic. I believe that the existence (or non-existence) of God or any gods is unknowable. Do I believe there is a God? No, I do not. Do I believe it is possible that there is a deity out there? Yes, I acknowledge the possibility, although if there is a God I personally doubt that it is the one you all worship.

These are my personal beliefs and I do not speak for anyone else.

With that said, let's start the discussion. Feel free to ask me anything.

Thanks!!
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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 02:04 AM

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I was raised Catholic and attended a Catholic school.
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I have a question: How can you be an agnostic if there is mountains of evidence for God's existence?
i suppose we have different definitions of "evidence." I personally see no evidence that there is an almighty being.

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How else could the earth and life have got here?
this is a good question! and my answer is "I don't know!"
the origin of the universe, the earth, and life is a mystery
it's something i've studied and tried to learn about and this question is actually part of what led me away from my faith. at some point the answer "God did it" just wasn't enough for me so i starting looking into alternate explanations. there are a lot of smart scientists trying to answer these questions everyday.

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Also, if you do read the Bible, you will find that it is inerrant which would be impossible if just written by men. And what about all the prophecies that have come true? Jesus Christ fed 5,000 people with a couple loaves and some fishes -- a miracle -- which was witnessed by thousands. How can you deny all that evidence?
how many written accounts of this miracle are there? i think only 1 (or maybe 3-4?) in my opinion that isn't the mountain of evidence that it's made out to be.
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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 02:21 AM

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ok here is a question

i saw in the Creation Science sub-forum that there is a thread about the Earth being flat

is this a commonly held belief amongst this community?
this is something new to me. i have met many Christians and as far as i know, not many of them believe that the earth is flat. in fact i was taught that the earth was round in my classes at Catholic school. Is this something that Christians argue about amongst themselves? does the bible make any reference to the shape of the earth? i'm not familiar with any passages.
Some of the relevant verses are cited in the very first post of the thread you mentioned above. http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=40617
It would not have taken much finding. I suggest you read this, and not expect people to waste their time answering questions that have been answered many times over.
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Why do you hate God? He loves you and wants to keep you from hell.
i do not "hate" God. i just don't believe he is there.
if God loves me then why would he let me suffer eternal damnation and suffering? i know i certainly couldn't let someone i loved or my own child suffer even a moment of suffering if i could help it.
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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 02:25 AM

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i do not "hate" God. i just don't believe he is there.
if God loves me then why would he let me suffer eternal damnation and suffering? i know i certainly couldn't let someone i loved or my own child suffer even a moment of suffering if i could help it.
May I ask the question as to if your father ever abused you.

It would appear that this hatred is carrying over to our holy father Jesus Christ.

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Some of the relevant verses are cited in the very first post of the thread you mentioned above. http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=40617
It would not have taken much finding. I suggest you read this, and not expect people to waste their time answering questions that have been answered many times over.
my apologies. that wasn't the thread i was referring to. i hadn't seen that one. i will read it. thanks for the link!
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May I ask the question as to if your father ever abused you.

It would appear that this hatred is carrying over to our holy father Jesus Christ.

I really do pity you.
you can ask me ANYTHING!

the answer is absolutely not
my father is the single smartest person i have ever met. he is also the kindest and hardest working person i know. i aspire to be even half the man he is. he is my best friend and has never led me wrong. i lean on him for advice and support often and i consider myself very lucky to have him in my life. i hope to be as good a father to my own children.
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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 02:41 AM

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you can ask me ANYTHING!

the answer is absolutely not
my father is the single smartest person i have ever met. he is also the kindest and hardest working person i know. i aspire to be even half the man he is. he is my best friend and has never led me wrong. i lean on him for advice and support often and i consider myself very lucky to have him in my life. i hope to be as good a father to my own children.
He can't be that smart. After all, he is doomed to spend eternity in hell.
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i do not "hate" God. i just don't believe he is there.
Then you will perish because God doesn't have time to fool with unbelievers.

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"Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;"

Will you come to Jesus and let him come in you? Or continue to mock him?

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Then you will perish because God doesn't have time to fool with unbelievers.

2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"

"Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;"

Will you come to Jesus and let him come in you? Or continue to mock him?

It is your everlasting soul on the line.

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this sounds like something someone would say to try to scare me into believing in God. i don't believe that I have an "everlasting soul" so this doesn't concern me. if i do? then i'll let God be the judge, not you.
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this sounds like something someone would say to try to scare me into believing in God. i don't believe that I have an "everlasting soul" so this doesn't concern me. if i do? then i'll let God be the judge, not you.
Then I am sorry you wasted my time.

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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 03:37 AM

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Feel free to ask me anything.

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Why are you here? This is a Christian forum. Unsaved = Unwanted.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Ask a non believer ANYTHING! - 02-16-2011, 03:40 AM

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Why are you here? This is a Christian forum. Unsaved = Unwanted.
i was hoping to have an insightful back and forth exchange with human beings that think differently than i do. i find such exchanges to be excellent learning experiences and i'm always thirsty to learn more about the world and how it works, including who else lives here and how they think it works.
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