[Nobar King]

Lurk away, marcy.

[GoodChristianSoul32]

This post caught my eye, recently my younger brother and his friends started to play this game, among other demonic games, no matter how much i tried to help them by explaining the dangers of these games they wouldnt listen to me. I found some companies who make christian-only games and decided to share them with them. they seemed to find them amusing, hopefully they will stop playing the devil ones.

[Nobar King]

Someone has some serious issues.

[Nobar King]

Are you a Christian or not?

[angels]

Would it not have been better and easier to write a post that is actually readable?.

[Sidoain]

I just want to say that oblivion its not a bad game to play. I mean, there is maybe witchcraft, but i think that the developers wanted to take an other name instead of spell and not other names that we always see. In fact, oblivion is the 1st game where i saw witchcraft so i didnt really care and i didnt try to relate it to something else to make it seem bad. I dont want to know what is witchcraft, but in oblivion, its a game so i still dont know what it is.

Fire ball out of the hand of our character, in any RPG medieval time game, we always have he fire ball spell. Its like a rule. Just like having lightning, wind and any kind of element. An rpg medieval fantazy game never miss one basic spell elements so it dont really count. Its also a spell to beat ice elemental monsters. All elemental spells are made to beat a monster elemental.

The elf picture that you posted, i never saw that elf when i played oblivion. They dont look like that. They are suppose to have the same colour as humans and normal eyes colour, but not red. I was a redguar BTW, but everytime i saw those elf, they was always innocent. I never had to fight one in the game because i was a good character. I always did good stuff and close each oblivion gates to save the world.

Like i said, i was a redguar and those race dont need to learn witchcraft to be strong. So for the whole game, all i needed is upgrading my armors and combat skills. The only spell i had was self healing just to rest after each combat, but the redguar are really weak on magic just like they are not suppose to know how to do a single magic.

I was 15 years old when i played that game and all i did was good stuff with my barbarian.

For the god part, its a game. When we play a game, we are not in the real life anymore. So adding other gods is not a problem as long that you dont take the game too seriously and pray for these gods while you get heal. Its not like i did look at these gods to represent my real god so i didnt break any bible rules. I dont even know who is the that night mother, but i heard about her in game, but never saw her. This might be because i was good.

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by Sidoain

I was 15 years old when i played that game and all i did was good stuff with my barbarian.

If you don't stop playing these games, you may still be doing that when you're 35.

[zalphon]

Well guys, im a gamer now, i'll be a gamer at 35, i'll even be a gamer at 75, no intentions of changing it. Games don't turn people into killers... Penn and Teller proved that.

[kdb176]

Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

Um. It's August 2 right now. I wrote this on June 18. That's about a month and-a-half roughly. Not 2 years. Are you posting on the wrong thread?



No, I never named myself that. I was bestowed this title by my loving brothers and sisters here at Landover. I think it's fair to consider me God's Own Mouthpiece since everything I do is Biblically correct and good in God's eyes, so I like to think of myself as a representative of God on this Earth.



I did not take that picture. I found it online. Also, that's not an elf, that's a demon.



Very good. God does approve of magic in certain circumstances, the story of Moses for one. It's not hypocritical because God realizes magic is very powerful and destructive and should only be used if He specifically allows it. Witchcraft and Oblivion seek to circumvent God's Laws by doing magic and witchcraft on their own terms.

This is my first post on these forums. I did read in a response within this thread that I am supposed to post an introduction in your introductions section. I was unable to find this section, and I apologize. Does it still exist? If so, would someone please provide me with a link? In the meantime, I will post a brief introduction. I am a 26 year old man, living in the Northeast. This October, I will be marrying the love of my life (my high school sweetheart). I work as a financial representative, helping people to make sure they are saving enough money for retirement, and ensuring that their families will be well taken care of should God call them home.


Now, with that done, I would like to offer my perspective on some of the things that have been said within this thread.


Reverend, based upon what you have written here, it seems to me that you are claiming a level of personal perfection that is reserved for God alone. Are you truly without sin? If everything you do is "Biblically correct," then you are (unless you consider original sin). Personally, I subscribe to the (biblical) notion that Jesus died to save us from our sinful selves. If you are, as you seem to be describing yourself, without sin, then what need have you for God? Or are you, in fact, God?


Further, you claim that the AV 1611 KJ Bible is the only true Scripture. I won't argue with you about the difficulties in translating any language into English with absolute perfection. I will, however, suggest to you that you might be well served by reading the Bible in either Aramaic or Hebrew (possibly Greek), as any of those three languages would be at least two steps closer to the original texts than anything you have read in English. Your admonition to another poster in this thread that he should study English is disingenuous at best. Jesus, for certain, did not speak English. Nothing written about Jesus in the time in which he was alive was written in English. These two facts can be stated with certainty, as English, as it is written in the AV 1611 KJ Bible, did not exist.


Regarding Capt. A. Portway: Your refusal to "read a stupid rebuttal to a post that (you) totally agree with by a man (you) respect" indicates a certain level of intellectual cowardice. If you are certain of your beliefs, why are you unwilling to read and counter the arguments of the ignorant?


Regarding MOMOwheeler: I find it interesting that you quote this particular bit of Scripture (albeit with your own, very clever, personal touch):


Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.... asshole.
-Matthew 7:1-2


Now, personally, I don't entirely see where you're coming from. You are using Scripture to counter a (fairly stupid) comment comparing your church to Republicans. That's fine and dandy, and intellectually honest. Then you cap your statement with a nasty, derogatory comment. In every sense of the word, you have judged your opponent to be an "asshole."


To all members of this church: I am not attempting to shake your beliefs (I know that's impossible). Frankly, I wouldn't want to shake your beliefs in the slightest. I am simply asking you to make sure that your beliefs are internally consistent.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by kdb176

This is my first post on these forums. I did read in a response within this thread that I am supposed to post an introduction in your introductions section. I was unable to find this section, and I apologize. Does it still exist?

Top of forum, first you read the rules... then you go a little further dow. You use your eyes to read. Not too hard if you actually look.

To all members of this church: I am not attempting to shake your beliefs (I know that's impossible). Frankly, I wouldn't want to shake your beliefs in the slightest. I am simply asking you to make sure that your beliefs are internally consistent.

So, you think everybody should think exactly alike,eh? Should we dress alike too, how about walk alike, talk alike, you know we could loose our minds!

Shaking gives me a head ache.

[kdb176]

Hello, James Hutchins, I read the rules. I then went all the way to the bottom of that thread. I found no introductions section. Then, I went back to the forum wherein the rules are found, and still found no introductions section. As to your question: no, I don't think everyone should think exactly alike. I do, however, expect a certain level of consistency within a thought process. Using a piece of Scripture to support your argument, then bastardizing the quote in order to make it more clever and insulting, thereby doing exactly what the Scripture says not to do, is amusing at best. It has no place, however, in an intelligent discussion.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by kdb176

.................... Using a piece of Scripture to support your argument, then bastardizing the quote in order to make it more clever and insulting, thereby doing exactly what the Scripture says not to do, is amusing at best. It has no place, however, in an intelligent discussion.

I did no such thing. I edited the quote to save space (as I have done again) as I was only adressing two points. Apparently, the second one was poingant. Regarding the first issue, you last of ability to read, I'll adddress by providing you with this.

[kdb176]

Mr. Hutchins, I was referring to someone else altering a Biblical quote in a nasty fashion, not to you changing something you or I said. Also, I would appreciate it if, when responding to me, you would type in a coherent fashion. Standard American English will do. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what you are trying to say in half of your "sentences." Finally, thank you for the link.

[James Hutchins]

Forgive my previous lack of coherency, it was due to a lack of sustenance. The missus has since provided me with a fine plate of biscuits and bacon, smothered in gravy.

I will however, make point with your comment to another party in the same paragraph. I suggest using the multi-quote feature in the future to avoid further misunderstandings.

I'll also suggest you learn how a Vbulletin type forum works with the categories and sub categories and remember you are merely a guest here.

[kdb176]

You're correct; I'm a guest here. Do you always immediately pounce on your guests and insult their intelligence? My initial post was exceedingly polite. I did nothing to deserve such treatment.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by kdb176

You're correct; I'm a guest here. Do you always immediately pounce on your guests and insult their intelligence? My initial post was exceedingly polite. I did nothing to deserve such treatment.

You are incorrect on a few points.
The broad strokes:
1) No one pounced on you, it is a fervent rebuttal. Caring about Christ is a passion and what life is all about. Nothing else matters.
2) You read the forum rules and still refused to follow them, this causes you to loose what little respect a stranger may have. Then you have an attitude when people complain. We have had total retards and some brain dead people come on this sight and not have a problem following simple directions. Why do you think that is?

I noticed you managed to follow the link I gave you. Read more than speak, listen more than interject, bit your tongue. Once you know the forum, then speak. You'll be a better man for it.

[kdb176]

I read the rules. Never once did I attack your faith. I offered polite, well-reasoned critiques of the logic of some members of these forums.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by kdb176

I read the rules. Never once did I attack your faith. I offered polite, well-reasoned critiques of the logic of some members of these forums.

I strongly (and I do not know how better to emphasize that) you re-read your posts. Think about what your reaction would be if some one like burst in to your home uninvited and acted the way you did. I know if it were my house, the cops would be on you like slop on a pig smile.

[kdb176]

Mr. Hutchins, Every post I initially made was in the context of trying to get at just what exactly your congregation believes. If I seemed rude, it was out of confusion. Further posts were only in response to what seemed to me to be direct attacks on my intelligence.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by kdb176

I read the rules. Never once did I attack your faith. I offered polite, well-reasoned critiques of the logic of some members of these forums.

You do understand that we are not the slightest bit interested in your unsaved opinions, don't you? We have a Bible-based "Unsaved NOT Welcome" policy at Landover Baptist Church. Praise Jesus!