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Default Re: Pastor Persecuted Because Jesus Provides a Modest House - 11-03-2013, 07:50 PM

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Not to mention that Stalin used the money he took from his people to fund his palaces, banquets and all in all lavish lifestyle to separate him from the common people. Great example indeed.
So by your reasoning, your pastors are comparable to Stalin, since they use the money they take from the people in their church to fund their lavish lifestyle. All I did was saying if they want to have that, they should actually WORK for that and abstain from robbery and cheating.

I wouldn't have gone as far as comparing them to a mass murderer, and it amazes me that a christian does that.


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So by your reasoning, your pastors are comparable to Stalin, since they use the money they take from the people in their church to fund their lavish lifestyle.
Once again you cannot even follow up the thoughts you used yourself. That is not my reasoning. It was you who used Stalin as an example and said it is a good thing to take money to yourself by force.

Try to focus even for once.
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So by your reasoning, your pastors are comparable to Stalin, since they use the money they take from the people in their church to fund their lavish lifestyle. All I did was saying if they want to have that, they should actually WORK for that and abstain from robbery and cheating.

I wouldn't have gone as far as comparing them to a mass murderer, and it amazes me that a christian does that.
Stalin may have done many bad things, but at least he helped us to defeat your people.


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Stalin may have done many bad things, but at least he helped us to defeat your people.
Yep. He did. So? What has that got to do with the fact that those pastors are stealing money from their church to satisfy their craving for luxury?


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Default Re: Pastor Persecuted Because Jesus Provides a Modest House - 11-04-2013, 01:28 AM

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Once again you cannot even follow up the thoughts you used yourself. That is not my reasoning. It was you who used Stalin as an example and said it is a good thing to take money to yourself by force.

Try to focus even for once.
It's probably not what you meant to say, I have to give you credit for that. But if you read my post and your post thoroughly, you will come to the conclusion that this follows logically (even though, as pointed out, it may not have been your intention)


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Yep. He did. So? What has that got to do with the fact that those pastors are stealing money from their church to satisfy their craving for luxury?
You are deeply mistaken, dear. Our Pastors are not stealing any money; they receive contributions from willing True Christians™ (never from unsaved Hellbound trash like you), and they cannot "steal" what they themselves received, do they? And they don't have craving for luxury, they just have the same basic needs as everybody else in a True Christian™ community. I won't post here pictures of my modest house, or mansions of other True Christians™ for security reasons, but believe me that we don't live in shacks!
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It's probably not what you meant to say, I have to give you credit for that. But if you read my post and your post thoroughly, you will come to the conclusion that this follows logically (even though, as pointed out, it may not have been your intention)
Again you don't even know what you write and understand even less what you read. Or it maybe just that logical thinking is not your strong point.

Let's see what you said again, shall we.

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I guess Stalin got one thing right when he persecuted the clergy.
Here we can see, that you say that taking property of people by force (sending owners to concentration camps, executions and so on) is a good thing. I understand that as a Nazi you endorse that type of behavior, but here is thing you again you missed. By force!

By force = taken by force
tithe = given willingly and happily

I'm sure that now even your thick Nazi head will see the difference.

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Yep. He did. So? What has that got to do with the fact that those pastors are stealing money from their church to satisfy their craving for luxury?
Martin, Martin, Martin, so young, so full of vitriol and hatred, why? What has our church ever done to you to make you this way?

Just by the by, where in the Bible does it say that donations/tithes are to be used to feed and clothe the poor? Nowhere. That's right it does not appear.

This, however, does:

Nehemiah 10:38

And the priest the sonne of Aaron, shall be with the Leuites, when the Leuites take tithes, and the Leuites shal bring vp the tithe of the tithes vnto the house of our God, to the chambers into the treasure house

What does this tell you, hmmmm? Think about it before you answer.


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Again you don't even know what you write and understand even less what you read. Or it maybe just that logical thinking is not your strong point.
Sic!

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the money he [Stalin] took from his people to fund his palaces, banquets and all in all lavish lifestyle to separate him from the common people
That's what you wrote. If you don't believe me, check page 1 of this thread. It's right there.

That's what the pastors did:

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misuse the money to indulge yourself
Plain and simple.

Imagine a democrat that you never elected is raising money to feed the homeless. Then it turns out he actually spend this money on a villa in the caribbean sea.

It's basically the same behaviour.

@Thomas Taylor

Just googled bible and feeding the hungry:

That's the first hit:

http://www.openbible.info/topics/feeding_the_hungry

So if you don't do that, you don't carry out the lord's will as written down in the bible, which you claim all the time.

As far as your question here goes

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Martin, Martin, Martin, so young, so full of vitriol and hatred, why? What has our church ever done to you to make you this way?
Just look here:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=93921
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Please pray for someone to rape my daughters
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=93221
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Pray for the Netherlands to flood so my nephew will come home
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...t=14025&page=2
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Atheists think is makes sense to give wheelchair retards the best parking spaces even though the lazy cripples don't even have to walk.
from 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

Then there is this thread:
Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?
And this answer sums it up pretty well:
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...=59978&page=27
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It's infinitely more likely that an innocent girl that was murdered was let into heaven where she belongs, than a murderous snake that killed millions.
Still you are discussing this.

Then there is this thread:
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This list is anything but complete. I mean, I can live with the snide remarks towards people of different faith, I can live with a certain passive-aggressiveness towards anybody not sharing your belief, but I didn't get the impression that the above threads where entirely sarcastic.

In which case you are horrible, horrible people and have truly earned any disrespect and contempt I show towards you.


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In which case you are horrible, horrible people and have truly earned any disrespect and contempt I show towards you.
Typical crypto Stalinist hate speech.

Shame on you


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Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

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I've read the Bible cover to cover many times, and nowhere does it say that a pastor shouldn't have a nice home. Besides, I'm sure he's not doing this out of selfish reasons. A megachurch pastor has to have a place to entertain business bigwhigs, high powered entertainers, and politicians. Powerful people like that just aren't going to go to a meeting in an unheated studio apartment in the ghetto.

I truly admire the humility that Pastor Furtick has shown in this matter. The liberals are out there attacking him, yet he simply turns the other cheek. What a great role model!


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Imagine a democrat that you never elected is raising money to feed the homeless. Then it turns out he actually spend this money on a villa in the caribbean sea.
Why would we ever fall for lies of a democrat?

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Just googled bible and feeding the hungry:
Good, now be a sweetie, go back to that website and put "homosexuality" in the search box. Now, how does that make you feel?

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So if you don't do that, you don't carry out the lord's will as written down in the bible, which you claim all the time.
What we do with our money is noy your business.

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This list is anything but complete. I mean, I can live with the snide remarks towards people of different faith, I can live with a certain passive-aggressiveness towards anybody not sharing your belief, but I didn't get the impression that the above threads where entirely sarcastic.
And where did you get the idea that they should be sarcastic?

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In which case you are horrible, horrible people and have truly earned any disrespect and contempt I show towards you.
I feel blessed by your heartless persecution (Matthew 5:10-12).
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Default Re: Pastor Persecuted Because Jesus Provides a Modest House - 11-05-2013, 06:28 AM

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Sic!



That's what you wrote. If you don't believe me, check page 1 of this thread. It's right there.

That's what the pastors did:

Plain and simple.

Imagine a democrat that you never elected is raising money to feed the homeless. Then it turns out he actually spend this money on a villa in the caribbean sea.

It's basically the same behaviour.

@Thomas Taylor

Just googled bible and feeding the hungry:

That's the first hit:

http://www.openbible.info/topics/feeding_the_hungry

So if you don't do that, you don't carry out the lord's will as written down in the bible, which you claim all the time.

As far as your question here goes



Just look here:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=93921


http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=93221


http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...t=14025&page=2
from 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

Then there is this thread:
Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?
And this answer sums it up pretty well:
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...=59978&page=27
Still you are discussing this.

Then there is this thread:
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=54668


This list is anything but complete. I mean, I can live with the snide remarks towards people of different faith, I can live with a certain passive-aggressiveness towards anybody not sharing your belief, but I didn't get the impression that the above threads where entirely sarcastic.

In which case you are horrible, horrible people and have truly earned any disrespect and contempt I show towards you.
Adolf, please use a real Bible (KJV1611) when referencing scripture. Also when you answer someone, answer the question you were asked. Your response is typical of atheist scum the world over. I will pray that you see the Light.

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That's what you wrote. If you don't believe me, check page 1 of this thread. It's right there.

That's what the pastors did:

Plain and simple.
Yes, plain and simple. That's what I WROTE, but I never compared rational actions of a pastor to irrational actions of an atheist dictator. We know that you struggle with keeping up, but try to at least understand what you read.

I still don't understand what your fascination of oppressive dictators have to do with this topic

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[/B]Then there is this thread:
Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?
And this answer sums it up pretty well:
Yes, it sums it up perfectly that you did not read the answer to that post.
What that person wrote is a lie and against the Bible.

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Yes, it sums it up perfectly that you did not read the answer to that post.
You have to read my post. To be a little more clear: because of the opinions you express in the topics mentioned above I think you are a bunch of sick *** potty language removed ***.

I in person, not the holy bible or any other piece of scripture, consider you a worthless piece of *** potty language removed ***, because you spread misery and wish that other people suffer in a way I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. This cannot be found in the holy bible, but it is the answers to this question:

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Martin, Martin, Martin, so young, so full of vitriol and hatred, why? What has our church ever done to you to make you this way?
Exactly this question. Got it now ???!!! I don't judge you by the holy bible, I guess that is the least you should have figured out by now.


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Watch the language, son.
I know I probably should, but I was under the impression that my message didn't get through, so I used a little more drastic means to express myself.


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I know I probably should, but I was under the impression that my message didn't get through, so I used a little more drastic means to express myself.
And that sums up Jesus-haters in a nutshell: they only mind their manners when they think another person is watching them.

A True Christian™ KNOWS that God is always watching, so he conducts himself accordingly.

Thanks for proving my point.

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I know I probably should, but I was under the impression that my message didn't get through, so I used a little more drastic means to express myself.
Typical atheist. :

I suppose that if you thought someone was REALLY not paying attention you would just go get a gun and start shooting?

I can't believe I'm reading this: what would come after shooting, rape?

We know atheist have no moral compass and are capable of anything. Thanks for the confirmation.



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...I can't believe I'm reading this: what would come after shooting, rape?...
Maybe he'd get some fringes for his prayer shawl, and NOT hang them from the corners.

Oh, the horror.


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