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Sinner Sodom and Gomorrah teach us that there is no "child salvation" or "age of accountability" - 10-18-2020, 05:03 AM

We know that mankind is Fallen (Genesis 3:6) because of the ancestral attack of female emancipation just after the Creation (Genesis 1:1). All human beings are born despicable, unable to do anything good, disgusting to Jesus. He hates some more than others (Romans 9:13) but we all all equally abhorrent to Him. Glory!. However, doctrines of false non-Christian religions teach us that there would be an "age of accountability" under which children could be Saved® despite not accepting Jesus as their personal Savior™. For instance, we can see the following blasphemous idea in the Catholic Catechism:
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1319 A candidate for Confirmation who has attained the age of reason must profess the faith, be in the state of grace, have the intention of receiving the sacrament, and be prepared to assume the role of disciple and witness to Christ, both within the ecclesial community and in temporal affairs.
This would mean that children killed under the age of reason (which for some obscure reason is "7") would be Saved® by Christ's Grace into Heaven. This is preposterous and would mean and the greatest gift that one could give a child would be killing it before it reached this age. Abortion would automatically give a baby a free ticket into the Joys of Heaven.
NOT TRUE

NOT TRUE


How do we know that God holds ALL people accountable regardless of their age? Because we know the Bible and un-Christian people don't. The inspiring story of Sodom and Gomorrah gives us the answer. Sodom was named after the Sodomites who flocked its streets looking desperately for pristine rectums to thrust their tallywhackers into. No-one really knows what took place in Gomorrah but it must have been equally bad: female voting, perhaps? Or mixing silk with wool or cotton, consuming hyraxes or lobsters or simply not believing in Jesus Christ during those years preceding His visit on Earth? However, God decided to demolish both cities but the always wussy Abraham tried to persuade Him to save the inhabitants.

Genesis 18:24
Peradventure there be
fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?


"Fifty righteous". No mention of their age. Now, if God had included children under the "age of accountability" as well as unborn babies, i.e., fetuses, He surely would have reached that number. Abraham goes on negotiating as any decent Jew would and after some haggling they decide upon the figure of 10.

Genesis 18:32
And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for
ten's sake.


Once again, no mention of the age of these ten persons. Just any 10 would suffice but there aren't enough as children are equally guilty, disgusting and vile! Q.E.D.

But... you (if you're a sinner) might hear some of your so-called priests say that HOLD ON, these figures only included grown men. And they do have evidence. It is of inferior kind but we must assess it as unbiased Creation Scientists, whose task it is to confirm our view of the Bible. Let us look (but very carefully) at some False Bibles' take on Genesis 18. First, the abominable Doay-Rheims, i.e., the perverse Papist porn pamphlet!
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If there be fifty just men in the city, shall they perish withal? and wilt thou not spare that place for the sake of the fifty just, if they be therein?
"Fifty just men"? Doesn't that mean that children were excluded? No, it doesn't because the True Bible, the KJV tells us so but that is not enough for these bleeding-heart liberal pagans who just wish to have their false comfort of one day meeting their aborted babies in Heaven. For their sake, we must look at the Old Jewish-language Text called the Hebrew Bible, unfortunately (the word order not original because no decent software supports the Jewish mirror-image script).
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אוּלַ֥י יֵ֛שׁ חֲמִשִּׁ֥ים צַדִּיקִ֖ם בְּתֹ֣וךְ הָעִ֑יר הַאַ֤ף תִּסְפֶּה֙ וְלֹא־תִשָּׂ֣א לַמָּקֹ֔ום לְמַ֛עַן חֲמִשִּׁ֥ים הַצַּדִּיקִ֖ם אֲשֶׁ֥ר בְּקִרְבָּֽהּ׃
The pivotal word is the adjective צַדִּיקִ֖ם that means "righteous (ones)". There is no occurrence of the word "man" it its confoundingly many forms (גֶּבֶר, אִישׁ, אָדָם). As expected, the Catholic Bible lies. Everyone is equal in sin and righteousness.

What does this mean? It means that all human beings are accountable from conception. Aborted babies, toddlers and children who die without accepting Jesus Christ go to Hell and deserve it. The mothers who kill their babies in the womb (unless sanctioned by Jesus, as in) will certainly meet their murdered offspring but in Hell. Children are nasty, noisy, cumbersome, evil, lying (and often) bastards. Our approach to them should be the one recommended by Jesus!




Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and
hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.




Only our children will eventually grow into properly God-Fearing adults who accept Jesus in the correct manner. All others do and will roast in Hellfire. That is the True Message™ of the Sodom narrative in addition to its warning against homosexual anal sodomy.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer


2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.



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Default Re: Sodom and Gomorrah teach us that there is no "child salvation" or "age of accountability" - 10-18-2020, 10:37 AM

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1319 A candidate for Confirmation who has attained the age of reason must profess the faith, be in the state of grace, have the intention of receiving the sacrament, and be prepared to assume the role of disciple and witness to Christ, both within the ecclesial community and in temporal affairs.
Thank you for an encouraging post on a topic that's been causing me headaches recently. The section I've highlighted shows up their cognitive dissonance very well i.e. What is the state of grace? For a Bedwardite it's simple enough:

Catholics on the other hand must be totally conflicted. In order for confirmation a state of grace must already exist, as you've pointed out. In that case what's the point of confirmation? Of course they'll explain that the infant, when christened, didn't know what was going on and therefore needs to aver retroactive acquiescence. But if they were ignorant at the time how could anything done then have any effect? They must simultaneously NOT be in a state of grace & BE in a state of grace for the rigmarole to have any meaning at all.

Just because something is simple does not mean it's correct. In the case of confirmation however it's neither complicated nor straightforward. It's impossible.
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Those believe in Jesus as their only hope of heaven will avoid hell, all others won't. Nowhere in the Bible does it say "he that believeth not except if he is under 13 is condemned already". No, it says "he that believeth not is condemned already". Period.


Ecclesiastes 5:3b "A fool's voice is known by multitude of words."
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Default Re: Sodom and Gomorrah teach us that there is no "child salvation" or "age of accountability" - 11-12-2020, 04:55 PM

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Those believe in Jesus as their only hope of heaven will avoid hell, all others won't. Nowhere in the Bible does it say "he that believeth not except if he is under 13 is condemned already". No, it says "he that believeth not is condemned already". Period.
Well, we know that people tend to come up with excuses. Like, if "once" or "a little bit", then it's not a sin and it seems like it doesn't count. Only the biblical commandments are clear and specific.
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Default Re: Sodom and Gomorrah teach us that there is no "child salvation" or "age of accountability" - 11-12-2020, 05:40 PM

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Well, we know that people tend to come up with excuses. Like, if "once" or "a little bit", then it's not a sin and it seems like it doesn't count. Only the biblical commandments are clear and specific.
Thank you for agreeing that a four year old that dies of cancer is going straight to because he/she is too young to comprehend the sacrifice that Jesus made for all of us. Praise or else!

By the way: we do have an introduction forum, and in civilized societies (and frankly, in primitive ones, too) it is a norm to introduce yourself at the beginning of social interactions.
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