[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

(Post #373)

I was interested in the way people confuse liberty with licence. In his letter to the Corinthians, Paul reflected on how Titus was welcome in Macedonia and how his previous letter had caused some little sorrow, however well intentioned, but happily the result was repentance.

II Corinthians 7:5-6, 8-9a When we were come into Macedonia, our flesh had no rest, but we were troubled on every side; without were fightings, within were fears. Nevertheless God, that comforteth those that are cast down, comforted us by the coming of Titus.….though I made you sorry with a letter, I do not repent, though I did repent: for I perceive that the same epistle hath made you sorry, though it were but for a season. Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance

The Good News about Jesus is that He makes sure we are corrected when we go astray. We have been chosen for Redemption and as foul sinners needed correction so that God could look at us through the eyes of Jesus and see His suffering in us and set us free. Paul continues:

II Corinthians 7:16-8:2 I rejoice therefore that I have confidence in you in all things. Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia; how that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality.

That does not mean they all became libertines or social-justice-warriors or started voting communist. It is the liberty of Christ, God's work completed in us through Him. That requires discipline. Nowadays people have crazy post-modern ideas about discipline especially what used to be called self-discipline. The craze is than in no matter should one ever discipline oneself but rather one should "identify" as such-and-such a thing. Deformities as we know are visited upon the progeny of sinners as a punishment. It could be a child or grandchild and in some cases a physical or mental deformity is there to punish a great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparent. That's how serious it is to disregard God's requirements, even the circumstances of one's own birth. Hermaphrodites could fall under any of these categories.

Jesus recommended amputations in some circumstances, specifically as an alternative to being cast into unquenchable fire. Modernist "interpretations" contravene God's instruction that Scripture does not require interpretation and in this case make dopey claims about metaphor and such like. But the general principle is there and is clearly not limited to hands, feet and eyeballs. Jesus elucidates:

Matthew 19:9-12c Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake.

Hermaphrodites have been reviled and also worshipped in the past. Let's face it, heathens will worship just about anything but that's no excuse for homoerotic attraction even though I'm not sure what that means for hermaphrodites. It would be important though for any marriage to comply with God's standard otherwise the cycle of curses should recommence all over again.

There are those who regard The Bible as utter detritus, a book to be eliminated from human consciousness altogether like the long lost garbage we know nothing about because it's lost. And good riddance. It never had anything to do with God (if it had it wouldn't be lost) but for liberals and freethinkers (as they call themselves) The Bible is no better than that. Worse probably. The only reason we have any degree of liberty at all, they say, is because we've got rid of The Bible and the filth of clergy more or less but it could come back at any time! Blatant scaremongering. God's Word endures forever.

Mark 9:43-49
I Peter 1:24-25
Isaiah 40:8

[AConfusedWiccanGirl]

Originally Posted by Glendora Christianson

Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus! I'm sure we'll be helping lots of lost homers in the future. And if there's one thing I'm sure of, our help will work better than any feel-good, false Christian nonsense. So, even though our Lord Jesus Christ will probably burn these homers in Hell, let's do our best to help our "back door" Christians.

whats a homer?

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by AConfusedWiccanGirl

whats a homer?

Your question has been answered multiple times in this thread alone. It's a simple matter of courtesy now to answer our question, "Who are you?"

[gayhomosexualchild]

im gay piffle all you biggots

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by gayhomosexualchild

im gay piffle all you biggots

Lumps all previous contributors (whose myriad thoughts on the subject are apparently not worth reading) into one bucket, while complaining about prejudice. Good job?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Originally Posted by gayhomosexualchild

im gay piffle all you biggots

It would have been better if you had written, "I'm gay. What does the Bible say about that? Can anyone here help me with my sexual struggle?"

If you had approached us in that way all kinds of help would have come forward. We would have read Bible passages to you. We would have provided copies of Pastor Zeke's exciting sermons against homosexuality. All of these would have given you a chance to make something of yourself.

I'm praying for your soul as I write this. We care here at Landover Baptist.

[gayhomosexualchild]

i dont care what the bible says, the bible says that woman shall be raped and people of collour enslaved. it sais many wrong things based on pregeduce of the men who translated gods word, i wish that you would realise that i have nothing else to life than trolling you faggot biggot messes.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Originally Posted by gayhomosexualchild

i dont care what the bible says, the bible says that woman shall be raped and people of collour enslaved. it sais many wrong things based on pregeduce of the men who translated gods word, i wish that you would realise that i have nothing else to life than trolling you faggot biggot messes.

Well I don't recall seeing versus saying what you claim but perhaps you're a better reader than me. The fashionable issues of the day (#metoo #blm) are momentary flashes in the pan compared with 6000 years of history. Watch - a new movie will come out or someone will invent a shinier iPhone and all these protesting millennials will go back to doing what they do best, mooching off their parents and collecting an unemployment check.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Originally Posted by gayhomosexualchild

i dont care what the bible says, the bible says that woman shall be raped and people of collour enslaved. it sais many wrong things based on pregeduce of the men who translated gods word, i wish that you would realise that i have nothing else to life than trolling you faggot biggot messes.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you are saying the Bible's admonition that men can do whatever they want to women, enslave black people are require men not women to explain the Word is wrong. How could you think such a thing?

I feel certain we at Landover Baptist could help you with your sinful sexuality problem. All you have to do is ask.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by gayhomosexualchild

i dont care what the bible says, the bible says that woman shall be raped and people of collour enslaved. it sais many wrong things based on pregeduce of the men who translated gods word, i wish that you would realise that i have nothing else to life than trolling you faggot biggot messes.

Wait a minute young lady. The Bible (KJV1611) does not stay all women should be raped 😡

You’re implying that the Bible (KJV1611) advocates all women should be raped and this is a hateful thing to say. We are good people and love Jesus and yet you hate us when the Bible(KJV161) very clearly states that only SOME women should be rapes.

Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Jesus is VERY specific about who gets raped.

I accept your apology- I just hope you beg forgiveness and Jesus can forgive you too.

YIC

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Originally Posted by Dr Laurence Niles

Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Jesus is VERY specific about who gets raped.

Absolutely, Brother Dr Niles! And also about whose children get dashed to pieces, even if there are occasions when I secretly wish that He would teach mine a bit of a permanent lesson.

[Dana723]

Originally Posted by gayhomosexualchild

i dont care what the bible says, the bible says that woman shall be raped and people of collour enslaved. it sais many wrong things based on pregeduce of the men who translated gods word, i wish that you would realise that i have nothing else to life than trolling you faggot biggot messes.

I've read this through a few times, trying to figure out what you were saying. I finally realized that if you have nothing else to life, you could figure out how to spell and use grammar. I always like a troll whose rants I could read.

[Isabella White]

Originally Posted by gayhomosexualchild

i dont care what the bible says, the bible says that woman shall be raped and people of collour enslaved. it sais many wrong things based on pregeduce of the men who translated gods word, i wish that you would realise that i have nothing else to life than trolling you faggot biggot messes.

My goodness! It sounds like someone has been getting prodded by the devil's red-hot pitchfork! Young Miss Child, I shall have you know that we do not tolerate such improper language here at . Now, rather than taking tantrums and stomping your feet, might I suggest that you open your and learn all about the love of the Almighty? Within those blessed pages, you will see how He sent Son to die for your wretched sins, and all because He loves you so.

I Peter 3:18 "For also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to , being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit"

So, you see, there is hope for you! And, if you shall follow the as your one and only , then you will avoid the raging fires of . However, if you resist and reject very generous gift of eternal salvation through shed , then you shall be damned to eternal torment, which you so surely deserve.

Romans 2:5 "But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of "

Matthew 25:41 "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"

It is my prayer that you will seek the Grace of whilst the time is at hand. And, I should like to leave you with this bit of poetry, to give you encouragement during your time of current rebellion and eventual conversion:

May I be willing, , to bear
Daily my cross for Thee;
Even Thy cup of grief to share,
Thou hast borne all for me

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Isabella White

I Peter 3:18

When Jesus was put to death in the flesh His blood ran out so that we could be saved.

He explained this so that we would know and also explained the alternative: everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels recorded in Matthew 25:41 – again so that we would know.

This in itself confirms Isaiah's prophecy.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Some people have no interest in life, let alone eternal joy as presented in The Bible. It's not a joy we could think up for ourselves but something from beyond our understanding and explained in this lovely song. A key to the 7 shape notation system is appended.