[Gabriel Reproba]

As we all know, God tests us all. Take for example, Abraham.

God tested Abraham by ordering him to perform a human sacrifice:

Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."
Gen 22:2

Abraham, being a Godly man and fully subscribing to the Christian doctrine of Divine Command Theory of Ethics (anything that God orders you to do is moral, even if it would normally be immoral) he follows God's orders. He comes this close to killing his son before God tells him it was just a test:

"Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son."
Gen 22:12

Reading this passage again made me think... how should I prepare to sacrifice one of my own children? I have 7 kids from three ex-wives and I love them all dearly. But, if God whispered in my brain to kill them all, I would have to do it. Following God's orders is more important than anything else. (This is why those whom are called by God to kill abortionists are so happy in jail... They heard God tell them to kill and they followed orders without question.) So, I have two questions:

1) How can I strengthen myself for this possible test?

2) Are there any countries where this might not be against secular law? If there is not, that is OK...God's orders will be carried out. But if there IS, that would be a relief.

To be clear, I have not heard from God on this YET. I am just worried that I might and I want to be prepared.

I look forward to your input!

[InvisiblePinkUnicorn]

Ignoring the fact that this type of absurdatiy practically proves that the Bible is bronze-age mythology with no divine connection, let me ask you something in return:

If God is omniscient and omnipotent, why did he need to test Abraham? (Or Job? Or ANYONE for that matter?) He should already know what they would do without torturing these people! he would have known it from the instant he considered creating the universe, in fact.

Your own scripture shows that your "God" doesn't even KNOW that Abraham fears God until Abraham is about to murder his own son:

"Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son."
Gen 22:12

If this is true and God can not see into Abraham's heart, then all God is basing his conclusion on is Abraham's outward actions...something that can be manipulated for deception. Something to ponder while you continue to worship this sadistic monster.

[Bobby MacBob]

Originally Posted by InvisiblePinkUnicorn

If God is omniscient and omnipotent, why did he need to test Abraham? (Or Job? Or ANYONE for that matter?) He should already know what they would do without torturing these people! he would have known it from the instant he considered creating the universe, in fact.

Your own scripture shows that your "God" doesn't even KNOW that Abraham fears God until Abraham is about to murder his own son:

OK 2 things:

He asked Abraham to do so so people in the future could learn by example because if God had just looked inside his heart people in the future wouldn't learn as much about following god I THINK.

Also stop blaspheming god you atheist!

YIC

Bobby

[Dutch Girl]

Originally Posted by Bobby MacBob

Also stop blaspheming god you atheist!

For a Christian you sure forget to capitalize God a lot.

[Faith_Machine]

Hello Dutch Girl, may I say what a pleasure it is to see you again? I surely would love to see you become a True Christian, yes I would.

Perhaps I can help you with that...

[Petal]

Originally Posted by Gabriel Reproba

To be clear, I have not heard from God on this YET. I am just worried that I might and I want to be prepared.

there no needs to be worrieds, Mr.Reproba. i gonna prays that lord God let you wiggles thru a liddle loophole, an that loophole be your childrens be killeds by provings thier faith to a unsaved persons . if you teech them to says the rite thang like how Mr.Baldwin done, then you not gonna have to kills them yourselfs. i not no what denominashun Mr.Baldwin be i prays he not a catlick , but his hart be in the rite place anyways, yay! .

STEPHEN BALDWIN takes his faith so seriously, he'd watch his own daughter die in the name of religion.
The actor reinvented himself as a born-again Christian following the 9/11 terrorist attacks on America, and his wife Kennya and their kids Alaia and Hailey are equally as devoted.
During a candid chat on U.K. reality show Celebrity Big Brother, Baldwin revealed the lengths he would go to to stay true to his belief in God.
He explained, "I'm gonna sound fanatical right now but what my faith requires is if I were sitting here, and my wife and two kids were sitting there, and we were on a public bus and somebody came in with a machine gun and pointed it at my daughter and said to my daughter, 'Say Jesus doesn't exist' - if she turned to me and said, 'What do I do?', I'd say, 'What have I taught you to do?'
"She'd say, 'Jesus absolutely exists', and I'd see her in heaven."

i gots that from this here unsaved site please forgives me

[Free Market Fred]

Brother Gabriel,

Before you sacrifice your kid, perhaps you should consider a sale instead? I know the kid is white, but how old? He or a she? Eye and hair color as well as general appearance and health all determine your asking price.

Send me a photo and other relevant details - I'll run it through my Excel worksheet and give you a price estimate. Thanks to Craigslist and eBay, you should get an offer pretty quick.

Praise Jesus!
Brother Fred

[Gabriel Reproba]

I appreciate your responses.

Petal: That is an uplifting story about what it means to be a True Christian™. I hope Mr. Baldwin chose the right path to salvation! I would hate to have him encourage a maniac to machine gun his child only to end up meeting her in Hell and not in Heaven.

FMF: You and your amazing spreadsheets! Have you thought about my proposal to comercialize them yet? I could draw up the papers very quickly and I think we could out-do the Video Professor in net profit within 9-12 months! That said, and as I stated in my OP, God has not instructed to kill my child or children yet. Nor has he instructed me to sell them yet. If I do hear from God on this matter and if he goes the capitalist route, i will of course come calling!

Anyone else have any suggestions?

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Gabriel Reproba

I appreciate your responses.

Petal: That is an uplifting story about what it means to be a True Christian™. I hope Mr. Baldwin chose the right path to salvation! I would hate to have him encourage a maniac to machine gun his child only to end up meeting her in Hell and not in Heaven.

FMF: You and your amazing spreadsheets! Have you thought about my proposal to comercialize them yet? I could draw up the papers very quickly and I think we could out-do the Video Professor in net profit within 9-12 months! That said, and as I stated in my OP, God has not instructed to kill my child or children yet. Nor has he instructed me to sell them yet. If I do hear from God on this matter and if he goes the capitalist route, i will of course come calling!

Anyone else have any suggestions?

You should look for a country that the government grants it's citizens the right to take responsibility for their lives. Somalia a good choice. The reason America is going to hell in handbasket because the nanny state tries to stop us from raising our kids like God wants us to.

[Cranky Old Man]

I don't see the problem here. If you properly raised your kids they will go straight to Heaven. So sacrificing them, provided the LORD asks you to, only has great advantages.

And you can start practicing for it by using your gun to kill some animals. I always aim for the head so they don't suffer.

[Mei Saeki]

The only reason people do abortion is cause they aren't ready or they don't want a baby. God will never do or tell you to do this because if you are a true believer he won't need to test you. God wouldn't ask you to kill your children becae he tells us to make children.

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by Mei Saeki

The only reason people do abortion is cause they aren't ready or they don't want a baby. God will never do or tell you to do this because if you are a true believer he won't need to test you. God wouldn't ask you to kill your children becae he tells us to make children.

Exactly. God orders us to kill babies of others, not our own:

Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

[Mei Saeki]

Originally Posted by Basilissa

Exactly. God orders us to kill babies of others, not our own:

Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

This scripture is regarding to what the Babylonians were doing to the Israelites, they were killing them, raping them, murdering their children, etc. The person who wrote this was talking about doing this to Babylonian babies as payback for what they'd done to them.

[Elmer G. White]

Originally Posted by Basilissa

Exactly. God orders us to kill babies of others, not our own:

Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Originally Posted by Mei Saeki

This scripture is regarding to what the Babylonians were doing to the Israelites, they were killing them, raping them, murdering their children, etc. The person who wrote this was talking about doing this to Babylonian babies as payback for what they'd done to them.

Dear Child,

Please read the words I emphasized with bold, bigger font and red color once more and then a few times more. Our highly educated Sister Basilissa offered you an explanation that God sometimes tells us to kill babies of other nations. You are refuting this by telling us that God sometimes tells us to kill Babylonian (=other nation) babies.

It seems to are not trying to debate our Sister because of any divergent opinions on this but because you are having a temper tantrum. While this is understandable when it comes to sinners, it it also hindering any potential growth in Godliness in you. Please reconsider your position, calm down and do some unbiased Bible Study!

Proverbs 12:23
A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Originally Posted by Mei Saeki

This scripture is regarding to what the Babylonians were doing to the Israelites, they were killing them, raping them, murdering their children, etc. The person who wrote this was talking about doing this to Babylonian babies as payback for what they'd done to them.

Babies were committing rape and murder?

[Mei Saeki]

The Babylonians were killing the Israelite's babies and children, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Mei Saeki

The only reason people do abortion is cause they aren't ready or they don't want a baby. God will never do or tell you to do this because if you are a true believer he won't need to test you. God wouldn't ask you to kill your children becae he tells us to make children.

You've clearly never met a liberal, or a person under the age of 30. Their women get pregnant just so they can get hopped up on drugs and have an abortion for entertainment. It's a new trend, like roofing, or going vegan. They get a spiritual high from it. They continually seek new and horrifying ways to offend Jesus in order to get their next fix.