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Talking Are Roleplaying games Evil? - 04-14-2008, 06:56 PM

the question stands, what are your thoughts on this?


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Default Re: Are Roleplaying games Evil? - 04-14-2008, 06:59 PM

Is roleplay evil?

Not when it's between husband and wife.

(That's my position)


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Talking Re: Are Roleplaying games Evil? - 04-14-2008, 07:01 PM

heheheheh... i couldn't agree more, but that was not exactly what i meant, i meant roleplaying games like D&D, Vampire, and Exalted


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heheheheh... i couldn't agree more, but that was not exactly what i meant, i meant roleplaying games like D&D, Vampire, and Exalted
Are those the games where you pretend to be a forest elf in a mini-skirt? I think that's plain wrong.
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Default Re: Are Roleplaying games Evil? - 04-14-2008, 07:14 PM

the ones where you play out a role, based upon a set amount of rules


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Default Re: Are Roleplaying games Evil? - 04-14-2008, 07:35 PM

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the ones where you play out a role, based upon a set amount of rules
We understand that friend. We Christians have looked into the FRPG phenomena. Our research has shown that the average roll game player chose as a character an angst filled whinny elf vampire girl in a miniskirt. We good and true Christians note most roll playing game art is of an angst filled, whinny elf vampire girls stabbing each other in the stomach with over sized swords or wrestling with werewolves. Roll playing games are no more evil than homosexuality, transvestitism and Satanism.



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Default Re: Are Roleplaying games Evil? - 04-14-2008, 07:54 PM

So... if your kids play make-believe, they're as Evil (and these are YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE) as homosexuals, satanists etc?


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So... if your kids play make-believe, they're as Evil (and these are YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE) as homosexuals, satanists etc?
No, if your child wants to make believe he is a girl going around raping his friends using occult powers that makes him an evil, homosexual Satanist. A good gamer would fantasize about going around proselytizing the unsaved.

I note you don’t deny enjoying having your in game surrogate stabbing other characters in the stomach.



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Roll playing games are no more evil than homosexuality, transvestitism and Satanism.
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In other words, not evil at all, since homosexuality and transvestitism are not evil, and Satan doesn't exist.
You didn't read my whole statement Dances. Do you think rape is something good to fantasizes about and turn into a game?



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You didn't read my whole statement Dances. Do you think rape is something good to fantasizes about and turn into a game?

Rape is a crime - of course I don't endorse violence.
Rape fantasy, on ther other hand, is something that several members of LBC seem to enjoy immensely. As long as they don't act on it, you can't do anything about people's fantasies, no matter how violent they may be.

I see nothing wrong with reol-playing games, especially if they allow people to vent their frustrations in a safe setting. I'd much rather see someone get rid of their pent-up hostility by rolling a die that says they killed someone with a magical dart than have them go out and kill a real person with a real weapon.


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Rape is a crime - of course I don't endorse violence.
Rape fantasy, on ther other hand, is something that several members of LBC seem to enjoy immensely. As long as they don't act on it, you can't do anything about people's fantasies, no matter how violent they may be.

I see nothing wrong with reol-playing games, especially if they allow people to vent their frustrations in a safe setting. I'd much rather see someone get rid of their pent-up hostility by rolling a die that says they killed someone with a magical dart than have them go out and kill a real person with a real weapon.
Dances, nobody asked if all role-playing games in which young homersexual men pretend to be whiny little elf vampire girls raping others should be banned (well, they should, but . . .) and nobody asked whether fantasies should be banned (although God does condemn and will punish thought crimes as well as those committed in the flesh). The question was whether they are EVIL.

Fantasizing about breaking God's Law is inherently EVIL, and SINFUL.

Fantasizing about raping someone's daughter is inherently evil. Why? Because raping someone's daughter and not following God's Law (paying the fifty shekels required by God's Law and marrying said daughter) is STEALING, which is forbidden!

These games encourage teenagers to fantasize about raping, stealing, and murdering, and are predicated on belief in ridiculous fantasy creatures and fairy tales about vampires, werewolves, fairies, fire-breathing dragons, magical unicorns, and all sorts of other superstitious nonsense.

Finally, the games direct teens' attention away from Heaven, the place where True Christians™ may worship and serve God for eternity, and onto bizarre and perverse fantasies having nothing to do with the real world.

Such things lead directly to Hell, the place of eternal torture created by God for those who turn their backs on Him.

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Dances, nobody asked if all role-playing games in which young homersexual men pretend to be whiny little elf vampire girls raping others should be banned (well, they should, but . . .) and nobody asked whether fantasies should be banned (although God does condemn and will punish thought crimes as well as those committed in the flesh). The question was whether they are EVIL.

Fantasizing about breaking God's Law is inherently EVIL, and SINFUL.

Nonsense. Fantsizing is not, in itself, harmful to anyone, including your deity.

Fantasizing about raping someone's daughter is inherently evil. Why? Because raping someone's daughter and not following God's Law (paying the fifty shekels required by God's Law and marrying said daughter) is STEALING, which is forbidden!

Rape is not theft, it's rape. It's forcing a person to submit to sexual intercourse against his/her will. You can't make it legit by offering to buy or marry the victim.

These games encourage teenagers to fantasize about raping, stealing, and murdering, and are predicated on belief in ridiculous fantasy creatures and fairy tales about vampires, werewolves, fairies, fire-breathing dragons, magical unicorns, and all sorts of other superstitious nonsense.

Finally, the games direct teens' attention away from Heaven, the place where True Christians™ may worship and serve God for eternity, and onto bizarre and perverse fantasies having nothing to do with the real world.

Such things lead directly to Hell, the place of eternal torture created by God for those who turn their backs on Him.

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Of course they're evil! Although I hate his books, I do like this quote from Nathaniel Hawthorne: "No man... can wear one face to himself and another to the multitude, without finally getting bewildered as to which one may be true."

Pretty soon, these role players are going to forget which face their wearing, and may just sink a silver Dagger into your back when you're not looking.


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Fantasizing about breaking God's Law is inherently EVIL, and SINFUL.
Nonsense. Fantsizing is not, in itself, harmful to anyone, including your deity.


Did I at any point say that things evil and sinful are harmful to God?

Nothing you or I can do can harm God! He is invulnerable to anything we might say or any act we may commit. Of course, He does punish anyone who tries to harm Him by sinning, and His feelings are wounded by those who turn their backs on Him, resulting in unending torture in the Lake of Fire.
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The issues were never cloudy for me.
Obviously, rape is theft. I even explained how.

God commands that any man who rapes a woman must pay the woman's father fifty shekels and take her as his wife. Failure to do so is STEALING from the woman's father!

What part of "Thou shalt not steal" is "cloudy" to you?


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Default Re: Are Roleplaying games Evil? - 04-15-2008, 03:18 AM

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In other words, not evil at all, since homosexuality and transvestitism are not evil, and Satan doesn't exist.
Of course they are evil. God Almighty said they are. For you, a limited human being who does not know everything, to state in absolute terms that Satan does not exist is extremely pig-headed, arrogant, and self-righteous. You don't honestly believe yourself to be omniscient do you? Of course not.

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Default Re: Are Roleplaying games Evil? - 04-15-2008, 12:19 PM

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Obviously, rape is theft. I even explained how.

God commands that any man who rapes a woman must pay the woman's father fifty shekels and take her as his wife. Failure to do so is STEALING from the woman's father!

What part of "Thou shalt not steal" is "cloudy" to you?
Rape is only theft if you consider a woman the property of a man - I don't consider people to be property. I certainly am not my husband's property.

Rape is a violent crime and it is a crime against the woman who is raped, not against her father. It is not merely the sexual equivalent of shoplifting a candy bar at a convenience store.


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Default Re: Are Roleplaying games Evil? - 04-15-2008, 01:10 PM

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Rape is only theft if you consider a woman the property of a man - I don't consider people to be property. I certainly am not my husband's property.

Rape is a violent crime and it is a crime against the woman who is raped, not against her father. It is not merely the sexual equivalent of shoplifting a candy bar at a convenience store.
A woman's reproductive ability is the property of her husband if she is married:

Ex. 21:22: If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart [from her], and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges [determine].

If not, it is her father's property:

Ex. 22:16-17: And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.

Therefore, I believe that the choice over what happens in the woman's womb should go to the rightful owner of that womb. Case closed.


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