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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-05-2010, 08:21 PM

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If it doesn't apply, then why are you so defensive?
Okay, I have anal sex with men. Happy now?

Of course I don't have anal sex with other men you absolute kretin.

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We only beat our children out of love, not abuse.
No, it's abuse.

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Well you're not showing it.
Of course I'm showing it! That's what this entire argument is about! What a stupid statement to make.

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I'm basing it on what you say, are you saying that I can't take what you say as what you mean? I can't "judge" you on your own statements?
So then, what have I said that warrents this response, you can take what I say by what I mean, as long as you understand what I say

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Oh, I see...... It's okay for you to make assumptions about me, but not for me to make assumptions about you. How very hypocritical of you. Other than the fact that I spank my children, what do you know about how I raise them? But you're accusing me of beating him for having any original idea.
I can only say that you started the assumtions, so if your child told you he wanted to find the right religion for him as he doesn't agree with the ideals of your extremist christianity, you wouldn't beat him?

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So you decide when life starts and doesn't, you must be very special. Like you think you're a god.
No I don't 'decide', I believe. If believing makes me think I'm a god then you obviously think that you are some kind of super God.


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You came into our board for no other reason than to disrupt what we are doing here. That, dear boy, is the definition of a troll.
Wrong again, sir. Like I stated earlier, I joined not to disrupt but to express my feelings.
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-05-2010, 08:47 PM

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NO! it's a sin!

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So then, what have I said that warrents this response, you can take what I say by what I mean, as long as you understand what I say
Already pointed this out, not my fault if you refuse to accept it.


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I can only say that you started the assumtions, so if your child told you he wanted to find the right religion for him as he doesn't agree with the ideals of your extremist christianity, you wouldn't beat him?
You sound like my 2-year-old "HE STARTED IT!" Oh and my child would not "find the right religion for him" as he already knows which religion is the true one.


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No I don't 'decide', I believe. If believing makes me think I'm a god then you obviously think that you are some kind of super God.
The difference being that I have the word of God that I base "what God wants on". I don't think I hate peanuts, peanuts are bad therefore God hates peanuts.



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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-05-2010, 08:59 PM

Haha sorry ma'am but I do have to laugh at this forum : devil::d evil:
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-05-2010, 09:06 PM

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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-15-2010, 05:17 PM

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If there is any, it will be similar to stretch marks. Just make sure to hit parallel to the stretch marks.
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i am most definitely not against discipline but discipline must be fair to the crime committed. How the piffle is beating an unborn child with a rod fair punishment for... no crime at all?
If children grow up in fear of their parents they will always be haunted by that, i was never struck while growing up and am thankful for it. Relationships should be formed on mutual respect, not fear.

I must not understand the joke here because surely you cannot be serious about this... really. You have drastically shaken my belief in the honest intentions of man. I hope your wife finds reason and either turns you in or leaves you or hopefully both.
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-15-2010, 07:20 PM

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I'm stunned at your ignorance, you follow
i am most definitely not against discipline but discipline must be fair to the crime committed. How the piffle is beating an unborn child with a rod fair punishment for... no crime at all?
What does being fair have to do with it?

This is what the Bible says on the subject: Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." So clearly love is reason enough to beat the child. And who would not love an unborn baby?

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If children grow up in fear of their parents they will always be haunted by that, i was never struck while growing up and am thankful for it.
You will stop being thankful when you burn in hell for all eternity. Your parents clearly hate you for dooming you that way.

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I must not understand the joke here because surely you cannot be serious about this... really. You have drastically shaken my belief in the honest intentions of man. I hope your wife finds reason and either turns you in or leaves you or hopefully both.
How can you say the Holy Bible is a joke? It is not filled with Garfield cartoons, it is filled with crystal clear instructions on how we have to live our lives!


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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-16-2010, 03:27 AM

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You will stop being thankful when you burn in hell for all eternity. Your parents clearly hate you for dooming you that way.
pretty sure your children will probably grow up to be bullies or serial killers, and will most definitely not thank you for beating them. The whole idea of me going to hell for not being beaten as a baby is quite a strange thing to say and makes very little sense
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pretty sure your children will probably grow up to be bullies or serial killers, and will most definitely not thank you for beating them
My father beat the fear of God into me when I was a sinful youngster. I am very thankful that he assured me going to Heaven that way. I am sure my sons and grandsons feel the same way.

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The whole idea of me going to hell for not being beaten as a baby is quite a strange thing to say and makes very little sense
If it makes sense is completely irrelevant. It's in the Bible so we have to do it.


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If it makes sense is completely irrelevant. It's in the Bible so we have to do it.
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-16-2010, 10:48 PM

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If she's preggers she's going to be getting more medical attention, so do you have any suggestions on how to reduce any bruising?

Whats the matter you Christian men think if someone sees the bruises that the police will arrest you for domestic abuse like you should be
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-16-2010, 11:14 PM

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...the police will arrest you...
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-18-2010, 04:07 AM

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@Cranky Old Man I am glad my father properly raised me!
Felicity?
You ENJOY being beaten simply because you are a woman?
You ENJOY being seen as inferior and forced to do all the labor around the house.

Please...realize there is a world for women OUTSIDE of this!
Where women have rights!
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-18-2010, 04:13 AM

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If it makes sense is completely irrelevant. It's in the Bible so we have to do it.
This says it all right here.
These people cannot be reasoned with.
I am renouncing myself as a christian due to this forum.
The abudance of horrible actions spoken of and ACCEPTED on these site lights a fire deep within my heart to utterly expose you all.

I will try my best to make sure EVERYONE knows these forums exist and what is being discussed here.
I'm sure the police force would love to have this in their hands.
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Felicity?
You ENJOY being beaten simply because you are a woman?
You ENJOY being seen as inferior and forced to do all the labor around the house.

Please...realize there is a world for women OUTSIDE of this!
Where women have rights!
Why do you not understand that we are following the word of God here? What are you going to tell the police that people are living according to their religious beliefs? That people are living in a consensual relationship? That we spank our kids when they need it? Oh I'm sure they'll get the AFT on us right away. Oh wait, no they wont because these are our rights.


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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-18-2010, 04:49 AM

So it is your right to beat your pregnant wife with a rod so harm the baby and the wife.
Yet a subsequent post asks how to avoid bruising, and he is advised to go along with the stretch marks.
YES: It is illegal to beat your pregnant wife and you all know that it is illegal. However you all believe it is morally correct and necessary which scares me more than anything.
Following the word of God exactly as the bible says is barbaric. It is an ancient way of thinking.
The Dark Ages were horrendous, as were the crusades.
And you know that police would lock you up for beating your pregnant wife with a rod.

I now realize none of you can be saved from Damnation....you took the word of the lord and distorted it to something horrendous involving kidnapping/torture with rats/caning unborn children/castration.
These things are not accepted in society because they violate a persons right as a HUMAN.
Regardless of sex, race, or religion, no person should ever have to succumb to such treatment.
Have you all no empathy whatsoever?

I'd like to here felicity's response to my question.

Oh and I'm all for spanking. What I'm not for that all of you apparently are:

Torture (With rats in a bowl held against a stomach of a wife and heated until she passes out from the pain of the rats gnawing on her stomach because she had to be chastised for wanting RIGHTS as a HUMAN)

Castration

Kidnapping

Chaining loved ones in basements

Cattle prods to keep them on gods path

Chastity devices to prevent masturbation

Treating women as inferior

Treating all other religions as wrong

Treating all other races as inferior

But it seems like you are all ok with this, right?
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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-18-2010, 05:39 AM

You've told us what you think, that's fine. But then you claim that it is what God thinks as well. Do you have scripture to back up your position? Because we've been showing scripture all the way along.

I have not seen an update to the Bible from the hands of God saying to relax the rules.


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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-18-2010, 06:02 AM

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Here, this a bunch of punctuation you can use in future posts. If you need more, just PM me and I'll send you some. I didn't include any semicolons, those are kind of tricky to use correctly. And I didn't include too many apostrophes, since most people use those wrong most of the time anyway.



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You really are so thoughtful, Brother. I would be honored to offer assistance with the use of semi-colons; I consider them my speciality.

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Default Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth! - 07-18-2010, 06:09 AM

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You've told us what you think, that's fine. But then you claim that it is what God thinks as well. Do you have scripture to back up your position? Because we've been showing scripture all the way along.

I have not seen an update to the Bible from the hands of God saying to relax the rules.
You didn't answer my question.
Do you support these actions I have listed in my original post? You personally believer. Would you castrate your son if you caught him masturbating?
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