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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-17-2008, 08:57 AM

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I have two questions for you.

1. Are you a homer?

No, are you? I assume you are referring to homosexual? Can't you type right? Just because I am an artist you think I'm a fag?


2. I don't see any pictures of Jesus in there.

I'm not a Jesus artist.


3. Are you on the drugs? That would explain all this wild crazy dream talk.


I've done drugs, and yes, they can lead you to a higher state of conciousness. Still, these are the things I see, so I draw them.


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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-18-2008, 09:57 PM

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Astral projection is a widely reported phenomenon, and is no way related to the devil. Devil? Are you serious? Probably a lot of people would consider their astral trip closer to a divine experience. You religious fundamentals just attack anything you don't understand. I'm sure if you learned more about astral projection you wouldn't be so against it.
What a breath of fresh air! I astrally projected the first time last week, with some of the members of my Unitarian Universalist congregation. We saw dolphins swimming in the ocean, aliens from a civilization far advanced from our own, the Battle of Waterloo (I never want to see bloodshed like that again), a glimpse of humanity far in the future (good news! our descendents will have a bright future, one without war or poverty), things that just blew my mind.

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Well, I guess I don't have any proof or evidence of astral projection. It's just something I've experienced, so I guess I believe in it. It's not a religion or anything, it's just a type of experience.
That's the best proof of all! If only the True Christians would at least try to expand their minds, think of what they could accomplish!

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Reading this nonsense is making me tired! These dreams of yours have nothing to do with "astral projection", and even less with the topic of this thread -- telepathic communication.
I've never read anyone's mind, but some of the pagans in my congregation are remarkably good at discerning people's thoughts. Tell the truth, it gets a little creepy at times, but it's way, way cool.

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Incidentally, Dreamboy, were you aware that this is a Christian Church forum?
Well, now, that all depends on how you define Christian.

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Sorry for wasting your time. I think this subject is really interesting. I was reading about telekenesis when I thought about this.
You're not wasting their time, Palmer. Landover needs to open its eyes to new experiences, and new, non-linear, non-causal ways of knowing. All of creation is linked by a web, and I belive that those who practice telekinesis, astral projection, telepathy, and the rest are merely using untapped resources in their brains to tap into that web.

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You don't think that a Christian would be able to experience something like this?
An enlightened Christian, open to new experiences, can.

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I have two questions for you. 1. Are you a homer?
What a shock. Mention Catholics, dancers, artists, jewelers (doubly damned as gay and as Jews), hairdressers, or actors, and somebody at Landover will chime in with a comment about homosexuality. Well, True Christians, there are a lot of Catholics, dancers, artists, jewelers, hairdressers, and actors who are homosexual. There are a lot of virtually every group that are homosexual. There are even homosexual members of the Landover Baptist Church (yes, I have been in touch with some of them, and no, my lips are sealed). There are homosexuals everywhere! Some of them can even astrally project! Isn't it wonderful?


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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-19-2008, 12:44 AM

I've been absent from Landover for awhile because I just wanted to take a break, and upon reading this thread I just wanted to get my two cents in.

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What a shock. Mention Catholics, dancers, artists, jewelers (doubly damned as gay and as Jews), hairdressers, or actors, and somebody at Landover will chime in with a comment about homosexuality. Well, True Christians, there are a lot of Catholics, dancers, artists, jewelers, hairdressers, and actors who are homosexual. There are a lot of virtually every group that are homosexual. There are even homosexual members of the Landover Baptist Church (yes, I have been in touch with some of them, and no, my lips are sealed). There are homosexuals everywhere! Some of them can even astrally project! Isn't it wonderful?

You'd be surprised at what gets tossed around on these forums, any developing technology (e.g. nano-tech) and modular tech are shunned on, people fear what they don't understand (appears to be the case, anyway).

Really though, what do you think Landover...ians? would've thought of electricity when it was being developed? (had Landover been founded before that invention) Probably the same viewpoints some of you have now on today's developing tech.

Just so no one gets the wrong ideas, I detest astral projection.
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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-19-2008, 12:56 AM

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Just so no one gets the wrong ideas, I detest astral projection.

What is it that you hate about this experience? If you suddenly found yourself experiencing it would you detest yourself?

Once I had an experience where I was out-of-body and was able to travel around the world and have an encounter with a friend from another country who is also able to experience astral travel. It was short lived, but invigorating, and later when we wrote to each other we were able to confirm the experience was shared. It was difficult to comprehend, that's why it seems so mystical.

It's really tough to study this phenomena other than from anecdotal accounts, so I expect you to be incredulous, but that doesn't disprove these experiences I and others share.

How do you know that when you're dreaming that you're not sharing your dream state with other co-dreamers?


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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-19-2008, 01:28 AM

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What is it that you hate about this experience? If you suddenly found yourself experiencing it would you detest yourself?
You're truly an imbecile.

I detest the experience of washing my car. That doesn't mean I detest MYSELF while I wash my car!


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Question Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-19-2008, 01:39 AM

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You're truly an imbecile.

I detest the experience of washing my car. That doesn't mean I detest MYSELF while I wash my car!

He didn't state that he hated astral travel, he was implying that people who promote it should be shunned.

You have stated that you hate homosexuals, right? If you found yourself in a homosexual situation, would you hate yourself?


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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-19-2008, 01:50 AM

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He didn't state that he hated astral travel, he was implying that people who promote it should be shunned.
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You have stated that you hate homosexuals, right? If you found yourself in a homosexual situation, would you hate yourself?
No, I haven't. In fact, I've stated the exact opposite.

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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-19-2008, 01:58 AM

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Really?

if you were, you might be qualified for use as a doorstop.
I'm ashamed Sister JennyD! How dare you get his hopes by suggesting one day he may be useful enough to be a doorstop? *chuckle* Next thing you know he's going to retort by posting how successful he is at life and his abundant material possessions.
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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-19-2008, 02:28 AM

While that would be quite the experience (albeit horrible) That is indeed not the case. (Doesn't Germany have a lot of couples that "swing"? or is that France... ) In any case, work and college took up most of my previous online time, but now I'm back so... yeah. Enjoy my antics
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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-19-2008, 02:36 AM

A few thoughts for Eldritch:

One can usefully separate experiences and perceptions into two categories:

1. Objective, consensual reality. Things that are verifiable by any observer fall into this category. Anyone can test the effects of gravity, for instance, or the melting point of ice. And all honest testers will find that their observations agree quite well.

2. Subjective, internal reality. Concepts like beauty and experiences like dreams are subjective. They're internal. Everyone does not agree about what is beautiful, and as for your dreams, I cannot perceive them at all. The are not verifiable for all observers.

I suggest that your experiences with lucid dreaming and astral projection are subjective. But what many people mean when they say something is "real" is that it exists in objective, consensual reality. This is a loose, general term, but a useful one. In this sense astral projection "is not real."

(One can logically claim that nothing is objectively real, since my only perception of other observers must itself come into my mind, and hence could be purely subjective. I could be dreaming that other people exist, and that their tests of the melting point of ice agree with mine. In that sense everything could be a dream. But we don't act that way, and we don't really believe that way.)

Now, as far as telekinesis, what is being claimed is that the mind is capable of generating real -- that is, objectively observable, scientifically verifiable -- forces similar to the kinetic forces generated by muscles or by electromagnetic coils. I have whopping big problems with this.

First, there have been no convincing scientific verification of any such a thing. James Randi has offered a large prize for anyone who can demonstrate it, and no one has claimed the prize.

Second, there is no physical mechanism in the brain that suggests it can generate such forces. This kind of thing is not all that mysterious. Just about the only physical force that could plausibly produce telekinesis is electromagnetism, and the human brain is simply not set up to produce external electromagnetic fields capable of moving large objects.

There's nothing to suggest that telekinesis has ever worked, and nothing to suggest our minds could produce the kind of force to make it work. It may be fun to imagine, but I think it will forever remain imaginary -- in the realm of the subjective, internal, dreaming reality.

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Default Re: Beware telepathic communication! - 03-31-2008, 03:23 PM

I'm not sure this is telekenesis, but it does involve your ipod and your brain's 'waves'.

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Details are still thin on how exactly these glasses take advantage of your ‘brain waves’, but it looks as if they flash images in an Orwellian brainwashing fashion.



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