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Question What does exploitation mean? A commie VS cappie debate. - 11-29-2019, 02:13 AM

You can only become a billionaire if you exploit people.

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You can only become a billionaire if you exploit people.
So? God is totally OK with that.
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Excellent, Sister Basilissa. You have put Crack-in-head in his place but good.


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Excellent, Sister Basilissa. You have put Crack-in-head in his place but good.
Funny Matthew 19:23-24 contradicts this statement.... I guess you pass over this verse.
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Funny Matthew 19:23-24 contradicts this statement.... I guess you pass over this verse.
Crack-in-Head, I'm really busy and prefer not to spend my time going over what I've learned in hundreds of sermons at Landover Baptist. If you would have spent your time there instead of sitting at home making up smart a$$ posts you would not make such huge errors in reading the Bible. But, OK, I will help you out.

First, you need to be reminded it is what the Bible says that counts. You are dabbling in the old liberal game of "what it means."

Sister Bass pointed you to scripture about owning slaves. Those passages tell us straight out that if one owns slaves and other property, is a rich person, God has blessed him. God has given him a prepaid passage to heaven.

Jesus tells us clearly in the passage you refer to that it is difficult to become rich. Think how difficult it was for President Trump to become a billionaire. He went through bankruptcies and did not pay people who did inferior work.

So, Crack-in-Head, please spare us your misguided sermons.


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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You can only become a billionaire if you exploit people.
To exploit something is to put it to work, to make it useful. I guess you would prefer a world where nobody organizes people to make them useful, so we can all be equally poor together.

I write about the word "Exploitation" here, don't worry, it's only a few sentences, so it's compatible with your short attention span.
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Sounds like a Christian theocratic wet-dream to me.
We do not commit Onanism, not even while unconscious. Please do not use this vulgar phrase again.

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It won't be secret. And we won't need a new police force, the current one will do just fine:


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To exploit something is to put it to work, to make it useful. I guess you would prefer a world where nobody organizes people to make them useful, so we can all be equally poor together.

I write about the word "Exploitation" here, don't worry, it's only a few sentences, so it's compatible with your short attention span.
No, it doesn’t... I prefer to keep my replies terse because brevity is a virtue on message boards.
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No, it doesn’t...
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition:
exploitation

n. The act of employing to the greatest possible advantage.
Merriam-Webster:
Definition of exploit
transitive verb

1 : to make productive use of : UTILIZE

exploiting your talents
exploit your opponent's weakness
Cambridge English Dictionary:
the use or development of something for profit or progress in business:

The awards recognize the best new products or processes suitable for commercial exploitation.

The exploitation of advanced technologies will be necessary for economic success.
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We'll be the judge of that.

Previously you said it's because you're using an ipad. Even ipads use predictive text which is very fast once you get the hang of using it. Why are you changing your story?
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The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language...Merriam-Webster...Cambridge English Dictionary:
https://socialistworker.org/2011/09/...n-exploitation
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Well, when it comes to the final authority on the English language, I'll have to admit that Webster is trumped by the Socialist Worker...

Does the Socialist Whiner also explain why you changed your story on why you can't write more than a tweet at a time?

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You're using an ipad touchscreen to recommend we follow every word of a guy who died before the invention of the typewriter?

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...Every dollar collected by capitalist landlords
Every dollar? So you think electricity, water, and building maintenance just appear for free? In Cuba they do, sort of. No slumlords around here:



Meanwhile in Syria, oh wait, it's still Cuba:




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Exploitation forms the basis of all the profits shared among the entire capitalist class.
Have you ever done something and ended up saying "Wow, that was worth the work I put in. Actually, it was MORE than worth the work I put in!" That's profit. That's "exploitation". If what you make is worth more than the effort it took, you become a leader in capitalism. Then more and more people join you in producing things worth more than the effort they took to make.

If you've ever done something and then said "What a waste of time, all that effort and now I've got nothing to show for it" - that's a lack of profit. In capitalism you are kept safely out of the way. In leftist systems, you end up in charge of something, and now you're wasting other people's effort and leaving nothing to show for it.

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"Instead of the conservative motto 'A fair day's wages for a fair day's work!' they ought to inscribe on their banner the revolutionary watchword: 'Abolition of the wages system!'"
Resulting in crap wages and no work getting done. In 100% of experiments.

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Meanwhile in Syria, oh wait, it's still Cuba:
Yeah, capitalism never leaves people in poverty...


I guess Mumbai missed your memo on how great capitalism is for everyone?

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Have you ever done something and ended up saying "Wow, that was worth the work I put in. Actually, it was MORE than worth the work I put in!" That's profit. That's "exploitation". If what you make is worth more than the effort it took, you become a leader in capitalism. Then more and more people join you in producing things worth more than the effort they took to make.
He's not going to "get" this abstract stuff, and he probably also doesn't know or care what shirtwaists are. We have to speak about things he understands.

Take Polish porn. You take sex, something people will do for free, and you do it in front of a camera that you already have. No costs, little effort, and yet you end up with something valuable - Polish porn. That's profit. When you hear the word "profit", think Polish porn.

In fact, it's so profitable that you download it for free, yet they still keep making more. So if you like free stuff, support capitalism.

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If you've ever done something and then said "What a waste of time, all that effort and now I've got nothing to show for it" - that's a lack of profit. In capitalism you are kept safely out of the way. In leftist systems, you end up in charge of something, and now you're wasting other people's effort and leaving nothing to show for it.
Communist countries never made porn, Cuba and North Korea don't even have camgirls. But imagine if you made a porn movie where you had fat ugly Americans screwing in swamp while mosquito bite them. Lots of effort for a useless product. That's unprofitable activity.
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