[Manifesto]

And im not gardenerian either. Wicca predates 1954 and christianity all together. You should read more. I respect all peoples right to believe what they want. Its called frelye will. And not only baptists will go to heaven, im just sayin... A game doesnt make you a witch or make you possessed by a demon!

[Manifesto]

Just so u know, im not the way I am because of a game. I was raised an independant fundamental baptist for the first 18 years of my life. I just believed and prayed and got no results. Probably like alot of you. I just chose a path that works for me. Maybe im not one of Gods elect, who knows. Alot of things make a person who they are and unless you are weak minded, a game or movie isnt going to influence your life because common sense should tell you that its not reality. Its for entertainment and nothing more so stop making mountains out of mole hillz!! I know your religion too, ive lived it! And harry potter is gay and corny and im far from a hippy or goth. Im my own person and dont need to be labeled.

[Alphonse Alban]

Originally Posted by Manifesto

Wicca predates 1954 and christianity all together.

No, it does not. Everything invented about wiccan is made up by men.

Originally Posted by Manifesto

You should read more.

I read the bible, that's enough as it is written by God.

Originally Posted by Manifesto

And not only baptists will go to heaven

Of course not, there are many false Christians who call themselves as baptists. Baptism alone does not guarantee place in heaven as many believe because of Mark 16:16; He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. You have to follow the word of God as well to to letter. Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

So you have to be baptized and follow every word of God to get to heaven. Everyone else Jesus will damn to hell.

[Manifesto]

Anyway, I would just like to thank our fore fathers, being the intelligent men they were, for putting in the constitution wonderful things like freedom of religion, freedom of speech and expression, and separation of church and state to prevent nosy nut jobs like you guys from making boring existences for the rest of us! If you all had your way, we would have to watch crap, not even disney movies? Cmon now, you cant be serious! See you all in hell.

[bystander2]

I must know, are most of the people in this church mentally incapacitated? I've been raised Christian all my life, from the day I was born, to now. I do not go to church, however, because of people like you. Telling people to "enjoy hell" because of their own views and beliefs? Who cares what they believe in, or how they live their life? It's their own business, not yours. I'm sitting here, 17 years old, reading these posts and being appalled by how much ignorance and arrogance this church displays. I feel disgusted by you people.
Right now, as I'm writing this post, I have World of Warcraft tabbed down on my computer, waiting for a raid to take place. Does this make me satanic? Playing a video game for my own pleasure that displays "Old Gods" such a C'thun and Yogg'Saron? They "whisper" things to you, evil things, trying to persuade you to turn on your comerades, and you end up striking them down in AQ40 (C'thun) and Ulduar (Yogg). This portrays you striking down the devil, or it can anyways. To me, this is just fun. It helps me get away from the world. In this game, I am a Blood Elf Mage. I conjure food, portals, and use arcane magic to strike down my foes. Does this make me satanic? No. It doesn't. It's a GAME. Get over yourselves people, especially you, "Reverand" Osbourn.
Some of these emoticons you have offend me as well, this devil, this blowing up of terrorists , this short bus, and especially those "medals" you entitle yourself with. I do not agree with the KKK medal that you give yourself, God loves everyone, not just white people. He loves Homosexuals, poor people, rich people, misguided people, atheists, agnostics, ect. To me, this is either a poorly conceived troll, or you're all batshit crazy. I'm thinking it's the later. Excuse me while I go do my raid, and spout arcane, frost, and fire magic from the palms of my hands. People like you sicken me.

[bystander2]

I would also like to add that I take immense pleasure in reading books suck as J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series, and Christopher Paolini's Inheretance series. As soon as I turn 18, I am going to get the Deathly Hallows symbol tattooed onto my wrist, as well as a cross tattooed behind my right ear. I play all the Assassins Creed games, Kingdom Hearts games, and Dantes Inferno. I play Devil May Cry (all), and take pleasure in learning about other cultures and religions and learning to apply some of their teachings into my everyday life. Some teach you to be more tolerant, like Buddhism, or Confucianism. Something you people obviously need to learn, toleration. U mad?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by bystander2

Some of these emoticons you have offend me

You are more pathetic than the damned Muslims. Cry me a river.

[bystander2]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins

You are more pathetic than the damned Muslims. Cry me a river.

I love how you're calling me, a SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL, pathetic. You, good sir, are more pathetic than I can even hope to achieve. I love how that's your only comeback. I am a retard.

[Jedediah]

Originally Posted by bystander2

I love how you're calling me, a SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL, pathetic. You, good sir, are more pathetic than I can even hope to achieve. I love how that's your only comeback. I am a retard.

An uppity teenaged strumpet who waltzes into our private Christian forum to tell us how wrong we are and then proceeds to promote all manner of sin, perversion and false doctrine... yep, sounds pretty pathetic to me as well.

John 12:39-40
Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

Jesus brought you here for a reason, young madam. I suggest you take this opportunity to hear God's Word and get right with Him.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by bystander2

I love how you're calling me, a SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL, pathetic. You, good sir, are more pathetic than I can even hope to achieve. I love how that's your only comeback. I am a retard.

Sorry, are you a sixteen year old girl? When a female is retarded, it is very hard to determine the age just by a persons post. Truth be told, all you females seem retarded.


I am curious, why do you think you are a Christian? What qualifies you to be one?
'Because I said so' is insufficient. I'd like to see the certification from a Pastor.

[bystander2]

Originally Posted by Jedediah

An uppity teenaged strumpet who waltzes into our private Christian forum to tell us how wrong we are and then proceeds to promote all manner of sin, perversion and false doctrine... yep, sounds pretty pathetic to me as well.

John 12:39-40
Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

Jesus brought you here for a reason, young madam. I suggest you take this opportunity to hear God's Word and get right with Him.

What exactly is a "strumpet"? I am comfortable with myself, and my beliefs. And if females are "pathetic" why is it that we do EVERYTHING for you? We cook, clean, have kids, ect, while you just sit there on your lazy ass doing nothing but drinking a beer and watching the game. piffleing hypocrites. And as for ME being pathetic, I'm sitting here with a scholarship to BAYLOR for psychology and religious studies. I play the jello very well, and I make straight A's and B's. I don't think that's pathetic. While you, are sitting here preaching about perversion and calling a CHILD pathetic. At least I'm doing more with my life then you EVER will.

[bystander2]

And as for me being a christian, I know I'm one, been to church, accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, yadda, yadda, yadda. I try and apply those principles to my daily life, while you sit here and spout crap about gays, women, and all that jazz. I don't think Jesus would approve.

[James Hutchins]

Child, spreading the Word of God™ is no 'game' as you punks call it. I do not drink 'beer' or huff the glue like you kids do.

Baylor is a school for empty headed girls to get a husband after miserably failing at it when home with their parents. Congratulations on making Jello.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by bystander2

What exactly is a "strumpet"? I am comfortable with myself, and my beliefs. And if females are "pathetic" why is it that we do EVERYTHING for you? We cook, clean, have kids, ect, while you just sit there on your lazy ass doing nothing but drinking a beer and watching the game. piffleing hypocrites. And as for ME being pathetic, I'm sitting here with a scholarship to BAYLOR for psychology and religious studies. I play the cello very well, and I make straight A's and B's. I don't think that's pathetic. While you, are sitting here preaching about perversion and calling a CHILD pathetic. At least I'm doing more with my life then you EVER will.

The only thing you're doing with your life is throw it away by being one of satan's willing thralls. Dedicate your life to serving Jesus and your Husband and you just might avoid spending eternity in hell being sodomized by satan and his huge barbed tallywacker.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by bystander2

And as for me being a christian, I know I'm one, been to church, accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, yadda, yadda, yadda. I try and apply those principles to my daily life, while you sit here and spout crap about gays, women, and all that jazz. I don't think Jesus would approve.

Christianty and 'yada yada' does not go together. I do not know what they teach you in those catlick mary worshopping places but it is not Christianty. Most of all, God frowns on Jazz, that is nigra music.

[bystander2]

Pastor Ezekiel, explain to me how I'm debating and such. I'm stating my achievements, stating the facts, and all this. And you're sitting here ridiculing me for it, basically calling me stupid. U mad?
And pastor, I already stated, I DO NOT GO TO CHURCH. How many times do I have to say this? I will not dedicate my life to JUST my husband, my life is mine to do with what I wish. I want to go to college, get my Phd, get a job, get married, and have kids. Then do my job to be able to provide. Now, if my husband is a bum, and doesn't do anything, (like my father, who is a drug addict), then I will divorce him, because I wholly believe in divorce. I do not "huff glue", drink, or do any other drugs, and I am not failing miserably at home. I have a great home life, and I love my parents. Think before you speak, you do not know others situations.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Originally Posted by bystander2

Pastor Ezekiel, explain to me how I'm debating and such. I'm stating my achievements, stating the facts, and all this. And you're sitting here ridiculing me for it, basically calling me stupid. U mad?
And pastor, I already stated, I DO NOT GO TO CHURCH. How many times do I have to say this? I will not dedicate my life to JUST my husband, my life is mine to do with what I wish. I want to go to college, get my Phd, get a job, get married, and have kids. Then do my job to be able to provide. Now, if my husband is a bum, and doesn't do anything, (like my father, who is a drug addict), then I will divorce him, because I wholly believe in divorce. I do not "huff glue", drink, or do any other drugs, and I am not failing miserably at home. I have a great home life, and I love my parents. Think before you speak, you do not know others situations.

You should be ashamed of yourself, young lady. Driving your poor father to the drugs with your sasspot mouth and insolence. I can only pray for the poor man that makes the catastrophic decision to propose to you some day. You will ruin him too.

What you need is a good session behind the woodshed with a strong switch.

[Jedediah]

Originally Posted by bystander2

What exactly is a "strumpet"?

Take a look in the mirror, missy. Try brushing up on your vocabulary while you're at it.

I am comfortable with myself, and my beliefs. And if females are "pathetic" why is it that we do EVERYTHING for you? We cook, clean, have kids, ect, while you just sit there on your lazy ass doing nothing but drinking a beer and watching the game. piffleing hypocrites.

I'm sure your ways seem very wise to you. Jesus told us about your type.

I Corinthians 3:18-20
Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

You're fooling your self if you think that your cello playing and secular book-learning will gain you entry into the Kingdom of Heaven. And I'll have you know that I spend 95% of my free time volunteering for the church, for the spreading of Jesus' Gospel. The rest of the time is spent disciplining my sons in accordance with Proverbs 23:13 or siring new sons upon my wife in accordance with Psalm 127:3-5.

However, you are on the right track in seeking your Salvation™ through child-bearing.

I Timothy 2:13-15
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Perhaps Jesus brought you here to meet a True Christian™ man to rule over you.

And as for ME being pathetic, I'm sitting here with a scholarship to BAYLOR for psychology and religious studies. I play the cello very well, and I make straight A's and B's. I don't think that's pathetic. While you, are sitting here preaching about perversion and calling a CHILD pathetic. At least I'm doing more with my life then you EVER will.

What kind of moron is proud of making B's? I maintained a solid 4.0 GPA all throughout my undergraduate and graduate studies in Young Earth Geology. Did you make a B in some class Buddho-Confucian heresy, which you feel qualifies you as an authority to come lecture us on Christian morality and tell us that we must allow our children to be seduced into paganism? You've got itching ears, young lady.

II Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

My family and I will pray for you.

[bystander2]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

Christianty and 'yada yada' does not go together. I do not know what they teach you in those catlick mary worshopping places but it is not Christianty. Most of all, God frowns on Jazz, that is nigra music.

Nigra music is good music then. I listen to all kinds, and I am currently taking music theory to learn the workings of it. God made us all equal, and if he didn't like "nigra" music then He wouldn't have created it.
And let me tell you ONCE AGAIN, that I DO NOT GO TO CHURCH.
And Feminazi? Please. You're being childish. Didn't Mommy ever teach you not to call others names?
SPREADING MY LEGS TO OTHERS? LOLOLOL. So now I'm a whore because of what I believe and because I'm independent? You people are so nice and welcoming. I love how you STILL haven't answered ANY of my questions.

I did not drive my father to drugs, he was doing them before I was even conceived. Nice try tho.
And before you go ridiculing my mother about this, because I know you will, she didn't know until AFTER I was born.

Actually, I made a B in algebra, math was never my strong point. And I plan on having kids, don't worry about that, but I certainly don't plan on meeting a "True Christian" man here. I don't like being ruled over. I volunteer at old homes, and hospitals, where I play my cello for others to enjoy. I never said my reading and cello was going to get me into heaven, so please, stop putting words into my mouth. I am not mormon either, although one of my good friends is.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by bystander2

Pastor Ezekiel, explain to me how I'm debating and such.

That comment in itself, is a debate. See, I knew you were empty headed.

I'm stating my achievements, stating the facts, and all this. And you're sitting here ridiculing me for it, basically calling me stupid. U mad?

None of us are mad. We bask in the Love of Jesus. We do not ridicule. If you are ashamed of your 'achievements', perhaps some introspection is called for? Did you ever consider if you are one and against the Soldiers of God, that perhaps, just perhaps, you are the one going against His Word?

And pastor, I already stated, I DO NOT GO TO CHURCH. How many times do I have to say this? I will not dedicate my life to JUST my husband, my life is mine to do with what I wish. I want to go to college, get my Phd, get a job, get married, and have kids. Then do my job to be able to provide. Now, if my husband is a bum, and doesn't do anything, (like my father, who is a drug addict), then I will divorce him, because I wholly believe in divorce. I do not "huff glue", drink, or do any other drugs, and I am not failing miserably at home. I have a great home life, and I love my parents. Think before you speak, you do not know others situations.

How can you call yourself a Christian if you do not pay homage to Jesus? Why do you want to marry a bum just to divorce him? That really is pretty stupid. Are you one of those gold diggers? If you were so successful, why aren't decent men interested in you?