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Default Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians - 11-15-2008, 08:44 PM

You know, the Mormons would get a heck of a lot more converts, if those young strapping "missionaries" would do good works instead of just talking about stuff.

If those boys rode around on riding mowers, instead of bicycles, and did everyones yards, people might be more willing to listen to them.

Of course, they'd be called the MOWmons, and that's just weird.


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Default Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians - 11-15-2008, 08:50 PM

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You know, the Mormons would get a heck of a lot more converts, if those young strapping "missionaries" would do good works instead of just talking about stuff.

If those boys rode around on riding mowers, instead of bicycles, and did everyones yards, people might be more willing to listen to them.

Of course, they'd be called the MOWmons, and that's just weird.
I'd watch them pretty closely if they offered to mow my yard. There are some things you just can't be too careful about.


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Default Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians - 12-15-2008, 11:03 PM

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Default Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians - 07-16-2009, 06:07 AM

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One of the Mormon missionaries who was recently trying to convert me to his pagan religion told me some things in secret. I will reveal them all to you here, in case you didn't know them for sure.

He told me:

1) Mormons worship Joseph Smith Jr.
2) All Mormons secretly know that Joseph Smith Jr made up the Book of Mormon, they just don't talk about it openly.
3) At church Mormons burn KJV1611 Bibles because they feel it will get them into heaven.
I hate to tell you this Brother J.H., but the "mormon missionary" that you apparently talked to, is wrong. I regularly attended "the evil cult's" church services for 19 of my 20 years, and that missionary (that I suspect you made up) is just flat out wrong.

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or about how your cult claims Negroes are dirty and inferior and cannot reach the same levels of Salvation as white people.
Whoo-whoo! Here comes the clue train! Next stop! 1978!

You're 40 years behind on your mormon studies Reverend. Time to pick up another textbook on the subject.

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We Baptists don't tolerate racism.
Than stop using the word Negro.

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I just wanted to add my two cent's worth...

One cannot argue against the fact that LDS is a cult. When we look at the very definition of a cult, every iota of the criteria is there.
I'd like to see your definition of "cult". So that I may apply it to a few other religious groups I know, to see if they also conveniently fit the description.

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Set aside the 8th grade education, drug addiction, alcoholism, whoring around, and disregard for the sexual purity of under-aged women, and you are left with either a LIAR or a crackpot.
What? Are you talking about Joseph Smith, or Bill Clinton? (A little republican humor there.)

What evidence do you have to support these claims that you lay on Joseph Smith?

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They put up a pretty good fight. Plus, they're brainwashed, so you need a PHD in psychology just to get through to them.
No. Just logic. Which you guys obviously have none of. You can't see the obvious fallacies in something as simple as the nature of your god. Is he spirit? Human? Humanoid? How can he be everywhere at once? Riddle me that.

I admit, there are some things that are hard to grasp in the Mormon doctrine, but its just a difference of opinion. Or belief.

Please pay real close attention to this part, though. Please. I beg of you.

You say that:

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I am not a practicing member of the the LDS church. I grew up with it in my life, but I found that it leads to narrow-mindedness, and inherent contradictions in itself. Not in the LDS Church, but in religion itself.

I am not here to try and convert anybody away from, or to, any specific religion. I am not here to be converted (although, you're welcome to try). I am quite happy with my own personal beliefs, and they don't follow any one particular religion. I am merely here to educate, and to be educated. I'm very interested in lively debates, and I simply love hearing views opposing my own.

You could say that my beliefs are pseudo-LDS/Christian with a hint of Agnostic in there. But hey, I'm 20, and I employ logic more than I use faith to guide my daily life, and if you don't like it, I'm sorry.

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You know, the Mormons would get a heck of a lot more converts, if those young strapping "missionaries" would do good works instead of just talking about stuff.

If those boys rode around on riding mowers, instead of bicycles, and did everyones yards, people might be more willing to listen to them.

Of course, they'd be called the MOWmons, and that's just weird.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/102334...icane_katrina/

You're right. Mormons don't help out anybody at ALL. What a bunch of selfish God-haters.

What scripture is it that says that Charity is the pure love of Christ?
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Default Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians - 07-16-2009, 06:46 AM

Why are you here persecuting us when it's your parents and their stupid cult who messed you up so much? You've been brainwashed and deluded since you were an infant, so there's no surprise that you aren't able to see your way clearly thru the forest to the meadow of Peace. (I just made that up because I thought it sounded nice).

You need to remove the scales from your eyes and realize the glory that awaits you when you REALLY take Jesus into your heart. Don't be so quick to judge.


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Whoo-whoo! Here comes the clue train! Next stop! 1978!

You're 40 years behind on your mormon studies Reverend. Time to pick up another textbook on the subject.
Isn't it such a perfect coincidence that your "living prophet" suddenly gets a message from God telling your cult to change doctrine after the civil rights movement? The timing is suspicious. It shows that your religion has based its doctrines out of politics and public relations instead of God. Besides, God does not change his mind.

BTW, 1978 was not 40 years ago. It's not 2018 right now is it?

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Than stop using the word Negro.
How is Negro a racist term? Martin Luther King used the term "negro". Is he racist then?

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I'd like to see your definition of "cult". So that I may apply it to a few other religious groups I know, to see if they also conveniently fit the description.
I think it can generally be agreed upon that a cult is any false religion, such as Mormonism.

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What? Are you talking about Joseph Smith, or Bill Clinton? (A little republican humor there.)

What evidence do you have to support these claims that you lay on Joseph Smith?
As much as I hate Clinton he was at least educated and became a Rhodes scholar. What she said about Joseph Smith is well-known, at least outside of Mormon circles. I understand that in cults the leader is usually revered in such high regard and the followers are prone to being fed propoganda.

For example, read an objective biography on L. Ron Hubbard and what his life was all about. Then ask a Scientologist who L. Ron Hubbard was. You would swear they were talking about two different people.

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No. Just logic. Which you guys obviously have none of. You can't see the obvious fallacies in something as simple as the nature of your god. Is he spirit? Human? Humanoid? How can he be everywhere at once? Riddle me that.

I admit, there are some things that are hard to grasp in the Mormon doctrine, but its just a difference of opinion. Or belief.

Please pay real close attention to this part, though. Please. I beg of you.
Choosing to ignore the Word of God© isn't simply a matter of opinion, or belief, it's willful disobedience towards Him and accepting of Satan. The Book of Mormon is in clear defiance of these sacred Scriptural teachings...

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Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
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You could say that my beliefs are pseudo-LDS/Christian with a hint of Agnostic in there. But hey, I'm 20, and I employ logic more than I use faith to guide my daily life, and if you don't like it, I'm sorry.
I guess I can cut you a little slack because you are at a tender young age where you are just put out into the real world and it can be awfully confusing. Son, but don't go around thinking you have the rest of your life to figure things out because you never know when you are going to die. What if you got into a car accident next year without accepting Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior?

I believe God has brought you here to take off the blindfold of Mormonism and show you what True Christianity™ is all about.



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Default Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians - 07-16-2009, 07:14 AM

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Why are you here persecuting us when it's your parents and their stupid cult who messed you up so much? You've been brainwashed and deluded since you were an infant, so there's no surprise that you aren't able to see your way clearly thru the forest to the meadow of Peace. (I just made that up because I thought it sounded nice).

You need to remove the scales from your eyes and realize the glory that awaits you when you REALLY take Jesus into your heart. Don't be so quick to judge.
Speaking of persecution, I did not call your church "stupid". And if you recall, I said I am no longer a practicing member of that religion.

It did sound nice, by the way.

I would ask you to also not be so quick to judge.


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Isn't it such a perfect coincidence that your "living prophet" suddenly gets a message from God telling your cult to change doctrine after the civil rights movement? The timing is suspicious. It shows that your religion has based its doctrines out of politics and public relations instead of God. Besides, God does not change his mind.
You know, you're right. It is a perfect "coincidence". All modern revelation is.

And don't tell me modern revelation is a crock, because I know you're going to say that. It is not based on politics, it is simply based on the living prophet conversing with God.

Does God (or the Holy Spirit) not talk to you on a regular basis? Does He not reveal to you answers to your prayers? Bam. Personal (Modern) Revelation. From God. The only difference is the scale to which the Revelation that the living prophet receives affects the daily lives of his followers. The living prophet is able to receive revelation for the church because he is the head of the church. Much like you might receive revelation concerning your family affairs, because you are the head.


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BTW, 1978 was not 40 years ago. It's not 2018 right now is it?
Whoop. My bad. I usually am much better at math. Apologies.


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How is Negro a racist term? Martin Luther King used the term "negro". Is he racist then?
I hope you're not serious. Are you really asking me if MLK Jr. is racist?

No, he is just black. And therefore allowed. Kind of. Look, I don't like anyone using that term. It was used in the south when black people were slaves as an insult to their race. You hear that? Insult. Race. Racist.

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I think it can generally be agreed upon that a cult is any false religion, such as Mormonism.
Does Merriam-Webster "generally agree"? What is the actual definition of a cult?

I am not going to look it up, because it would only create unnecessary anger, but you have to understand. There are many people out in the world who (truly) believe that your church is a false religion. And is therefore a cult.

I'm just saying. I don't wanna fight over it. If you say you're not a cult because you're not false, I'm prepared to let it go. Like I said, unnecessary anger.


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As much as I hate Clinton he was at least educated and became a Rhodes scholar. What she said about Joseph Smith is well-known, at least outside of Mormon circles. I understand that in cults the leader is usually revered in such high regard and the followers are prone to being fed propoganda.
I could say the same thing about being fed propoganda. I ask again, what evidence do you have to support those claims? Any hard proof? Or is that faith-based evidence? I'll accept either one.


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Choosing to ignore the Word of God© isn't simply a matter of opinion, or belief, it's willful disobedience towards Him and accepting of Satan. The Book of Mormon is in clear defiance of these sacred Scriptural teachings...
Again, going off of the belief of Modern Revelation, the Book of Mormon is a very real book. (Allegedly) Straight from the mouth of God, which the Bible is not, by simple basis of fact. So you can see how Mormons can easily believe that The Book of Mormon is very real, and through Modern Revelation, inherently is not in clear defiance.[/QUOTE]


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What if you got into a car accident next year without accepting Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior?

I believe God has brought you here to take off the blindfold of Mormonism and show you what True Christianity™ is all about.
Then I guess I've got a year to "accept Jesus Christ", although, in my own way, I already have. I don't fear death, good sir, and I should hope that you do not either.

Well, God didn't exactly take the "blindfold of Mormonism" off, so much as just growing up did, but we'll see.
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I hope you're not serious. Are you really asking me if MLK Jr. is racist?

No, he is just black. And therefore allowed. Kind of. Look, I don't like anyone using that term. It was used in the south when black people were slaves as an insult to their race. You hear that? Insult. Race. Racist.
Are you not aware that Negro is the proper scientific term for black people, just as Caucasian is for white people? Negroes aren't "black", they're dark brown! (Or not so dark, depending on their pigmentation.)

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This very morning I had a knock at the door of my single wide,I looked out the peep hole and saw two young fellers standing there.They looked ok so I opened up the door.They said that they was missionaries from the mormon church. How come the all themselfs mormons,don't that mean they is retards? I know I sure would not tell a stranger that I was a mormon,thats just silly.
Them two young fellers wanted to give me a book called the book of mormon.Iffin that dont beat all they got a book on how to be a mormon.They told me it were like the Bible,so I snatched up my KJV1611 bible and told them I had the real thing right here in my hands.I said I did not want no book on how to be a mormon,after all I graduated all the way through High School.And I wernt no mormon and dont want to be one.Them two boys said that iffin I didnot take there book and a join up to there Church I was not going to get to live with Jesus when I die.

I grabbed my shot gun (it was my soon to be ex husbands) and told them to get offen my property or they would feel the pain of rock salt in there backsides.Boy you should have seen them two fellers skedaddle off on them bicycles,I bet they wont come messing around here no more.They was so scared they dropped one of them books on how to be a mormon,I used it to start a fire later this morning.I guess it was of some use after all

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Shout Glory!!


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Does anyone, even Mormons, think they are Christians?



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Default Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians - 01-11-2012, 10:27 PM

So I just found the thread. And you know, I've been reading your site for some time now because quite frankly it disgusted me how close-minded you people are. One thing God always wanted us to do is go out and accept everyone into our hearts, whether they be gay, of different race or size, or religion. He wants us to accept everyone no matter how different they are. But you people can't see that. You only see what you have painted for yourself, because you can't face the truth that everything you are preaching is sadistic and violent. Beating children so they listen to god? That's wrong. Condemning other religions and saying they aren't christian? That's wrong.

Why did I choose to comment on this thread? Well, because of the most obvious answer: I am mormon. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. And I have never been so happy in my life with where I am. I have a strong connection with God and you people condemning me does not waver my connection. I am taught to be open and honest about how I feel, both in the church and in my home and how I am raised: and from what I have seen here you do not allow that. You want your youth to follow strict rules or you will beat them. You condemn THEM to a life of misery and pain. And you don't see that do you?

Yes, this thread offended me. You know what? This entire site offended me. I hope you people are happy in the tight balls you've put around yourself. Because when you do finally reach heaven God won't be there... you have closed yourself off to God and you can't find him by doing what you are doing. Who made it right to beat someone or spit in their faces when they talk the way I do? Well everyone on this site did, obviously.

Like I said condemn me. Call me a sinner, a heathen, a harlot. Call me what you want but I am being honest with how I feel and I think I have a right to share that under God's will and my will. So good day to whoever is reading this, because I know by the time I post this people will be spitting in my face about how I am wrong and how messed up I am, when in reality it is YOU who is messed up.

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Default Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians - 01-11-2012, 10:31 PM

A badly deluded false Christian fool. You are aware, are you not, that your cult was established by a con man? And this was AFTER he was convicted for fraud? But those gold tablets MUST be out there somewhere.

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So I just found the thread. And you know, I've been reading your site for some time now because quite frankly it disgusted me how close-minded you people are. One thing God always wanted us to do is go out and accept everyone into our hearts, whether they be gay, of different race or size, or religion. He wants us to accept everyone no matter how different they are. But you people can't see that. You only see what you have painted for yourself, because you can't face the truth that everything you are preaching is sadistic and violent. Beating children so they listen to god? That's wrong. Condemning other religions and saying they aren't christian? That's wrong.

Why did I choose to comment on this thread? Well, because of the most obvious answer: I am mormon. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. And I have never been so happy in my life with where I am. I have a strong connection with God and you people condemning me does not waver my connection. I am taught to be open and honest about how I feel, both in the church and in my home and how I am raised: and from what I have seen here you do not allow that. You want your youth to follow strict rules or you will beat them. You condemn THEM to a life of misery and pain. And you don't see that do you?

Yes, this thread offended me. You know what? This entire site offended me. I hope you people are happy in the tight balls you've put around yourself. Because when you do finally reach heaven God won't be there... you have closed yourself off to God and you can't find him by doing what you are doing. Who made it right to beat someone or spit in their faces when they talk the way I do? Well everyone on this site did, obviously.

Like I said condemn me. Call me a sinner, a heathen, a harlot. Call me what you want but I am being honest with how I feel and I think I have a right to share that under God's will and my will. So good day to whoever is reading this, because I know by the time I post this people will be spitting in my face about how I am wrong and how messed up I am, when in reality it is YOU who is messed up.

Good day.

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1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Can you not read?



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Maybe in the Magic Underwear Bible it says to "accept everyone" but not in the KJV Bible.



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Default Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians - 01-11-2012, 10:35 PM

And yep: here we go. You people are condemning and insulting me. Haha, so when I insult you all you do is turn around and insult me.

Circle of life, people. And life keeps going and going. It's just a circle of insults and lies and pain.
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And yep: here we go. You people are condemning and insulting me. Haha, so when I insult you all you do is turn around and insult me.

Circle of life, people. And life keeps going and going. It's just a circle of insults and lies and pain.
I just quoted the Bible which is the word of God and wondered if you have some sort of problem with reading because I don't know how you can spin that to mean what you said.

And instead you want to abuse us for daring to contradict you.

What's your explanation for failing to understand the Bible then?



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And yep: here we go. You people are condemning and insulting me. Haha, so when I insult you all you do is turn around and insult me.

Circle of life, people. And life keeps going and going. It's just a circle of insults and lies and pain.
You deserve contempt. You spit in the face of Jesus, you worship a man who thought he could tell the future by looking at a rock, and you think you get your own planet when you die.

Now be honest: do you deserve respect for coming to a peaceful Christian site and trying to defend such foolishness? Of course not. Now stop feeling sorry for yourself and get right with God before he throws you in a volcano.



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