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Yes, This is Harsha Shah. I have been studying more of your bible. Yes, I have been reading about your god. Your Bible, yes, is saying in the Revelations part in Chapter 19 verse 6 that he is all-powerful, that is, omnipotent but is he? Yes, he is not. I am hoping that I am not offending you but in your old Testament, the text is saying that your god has a certain weakness that is making him unable to win all the battles. Yes.
I am hoping that I am not offending you when I am citing this verse that you are undoubtedly finding very awkward to read. Yes. It is in the Judges Chapter 1 verse 19 and it is saying And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron. Yes, I am using the italics to show the citation, yes. Yes, I am thinking that I might be offending you when I am citing another verse that you must also be finding very painful to be reading. It is also in the Judges Chapter 4 and verse 3, yes. And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel.

Yes, these verses are saying that even if your god was fighting with you, he would not be winning as the iron chariot is something that is too strong for him. I am very surprised that such a commonplace item would be defeating your god. I shall be discussing this with the pupils in my RME that is Religious and Moral Education Class and be warning them that they should not be relying too much on your god even if they are still christians. Sadly, many of them are not. Yes, I am hoping that you will not be too distraught about this thing, yes. You will now know that your god is weaker than you were thinking. This is Harsha Shah and I am wishing you all a jolly nice autumn or spring if you are living in the southern hemisphere. Yes!


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I am hoping that I am not offending you when I am citing this verse that you are undoubtedly finding very awkward to read. Yes. It is in the Judges Chapter 1 verse 19 and it is saying And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron
I am always offended when ignorant heathens spout garbage.

God announces that Colonel Judah will create regime-change in Canaan and Judah co-opts Simeon to do the job. And they win, naturally. There follows a series of victories culminating in

J'g:1:19: And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but [he] could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

At this point there are two reasons why the attack against the “inhabitants of the valley” did not result in a victory for Judah.

The earthly reason was that Judah was up against iron chariots – the Bible tells us this.
The Godly reason was that God trusted Judah to complete His Plan – note that God’s Plan is not necessarily what you think it is - It is clear that God did not want the “inhabitants of the valley” to be defeated, and so they were not.

The Bible is a litany of unalloyed victories for God and Jesus – to me or you (well, to you, I know better) there might be an apparent defeat – but that is our your inability to comprehend the infinite Plan that God has.

We see that God does not mind human failure and frailty:

J'g:1:21: And the children of Benjamin did not drive out the Jebusites that inhabited Jerusalem; but the Jebusites dwell with the children of Benjamin in Jerusalem unto this day.

J'g:1:27: Neither did Manasseh drive out the inhabitants of Beth-shean and her towns, nor Taanach and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Dor and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Ibleam and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Megiddo and her towns: but the Canaanites would dwell in that land.
J'g:1:28: And it came to pass, when Israel was strong, that they put the Canaanites to tribute, and did not utterly drive them out.

[There follows a series of human failures] and then one lot put up some resistance but became a vassal state:
J'g:1:34: And the Amorites forced the children of Dan into the mountain: for they would not suffer them to come down to the valley:
J'g:1:35: But the Amorites would dwell in mount Heres in Aijalon, and in Shaalbim: yet the hand of the house of Joseph prevailed, so that they became tributaries.

All part of God’s Plan – in that Plan some of us suffer defeat. It’s how God works.

You have just been defeated.





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Default Re: Is Your god All-Powerful? He Can't Defeat Iron Chariots - 08-27-2019, 01:55 PM

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Yes, This is Harsha Shah. I have been studying more of your bible. Yes, I have been reading about your god. I am hoping that I am not offending you when I am citing this verse that you are undoubtedly finding very awkward to read. Yes. It is in the Judges Chapter 1 verse 19 and it is saying And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
Oh, dear Miss Shah -- goodness, just the other day I was praying for you, hoping that you had finally given your life to the , to cleanse you of your multitudinous sins. And, here you are! I believe the has brought you back to us here at , to hear, once again, the blessed Gospel of the , so that you will accept as your .
Obviously, you have a great hunger for the things of , which shows in your study of the .

Now, I am not the expert that you will find with our pastors and senior menfolk here at , but I do remember a sermon that my beloved, late pastor father delivered one time, about this very topic regarding the iron chariots. I recall Daddy saying that the "he" in "he ... could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley", may very well have pertained to Judah, and not to . We know that with , ALL things are possible:

Matthew 19:26 "But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."

And since has created Earth, the planets and universe and all living creatures, and since He knows everything (past, present and future), then I doubt that a few iron chariots would have been a challenge to Might.

Psalm 147:5 "Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite."

Now, I know you are going to say, "Mrs. White, that does not explain, if was with Judah, why Judah could not drive out the chariots, yes." Well, my Dear, I will not pretend to know the Mind of the . I am sure that my blessed Heavenly Father had reasons. But, what you should consider is this: you can always ask why this was the case, when you stand before during your personal appointment before in the Halls of Judgment:

Hebrews 9:27 " And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment".

I do so hope that this has helped you with your perspective on this important topic. Yes? Yes!

Sincerely, Isabella W.




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Default Re: Is Your god All-Powerful? He Can't Defeat Iron Chariots - 08-27-2019, 05:50 PM

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Paslm 147:5 "Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite."

Now, I know you are going to say, "Mrs. White, that does not explain, if was with Judah, why Judah could not drive out the chariots, yes." Well, my Dear, I will not pretend to know the Mind of the . I am sure that my blessed Heavenly Father had reasons. But, what you should consider is this: you can always ask why this was the case, when you stand before during your personal appointment before in the Halls of Judgment:

Hebrews 9:27 " And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment".

I do so hope that this has helped you with your perspective on this important topic. Yes? Yes!
Sincerely, Isabella W.
I hope, also, your post helped Miss Shaw. One can tell she is struggling to reject Jesus but is unsuccessful.


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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I hope, also, your post helped Miss Shaw. One can tell she is struggling to reject Jesus but is unsuccessful.
Why, thank you kindly, dear Brother Mayor Hold: I do believe that Miss Shaw has been led to our blessed forum, by the Hand of self. Oh, I know she will protest and talk about her classes at university and all, and knows she can't wait to bring up another of those hideous elephant stories, but what she learns and teaches in her school is no match for the glorious teachings within the blessed pages of the . I do so hope that Miss Shah will continue to visit with us here at . We shall see the harvest!

Galatians 6:9 "And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not."

A blessed day to you, dear Brother Mayor Hold,
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I am not as smart as these True Christians, and I believe they have rebutted you quite thoroughly. But my first thought went to the Psalms:


Some trust in chariots, and some in horses; But we will remember the name of the LORD our God. Psalms 20:7


Perhaps if you trusted in the Lord our God, you will become a decent Christian lady instead of the curry slurping demon that you are!


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Yes, This is Harsha Shah. I have been studying more of your bible. Yes, I have been reading about your god. Your Bible, yes, is saying in the Revelations part in Chapter 19 verse 6 that he is all-powerful, that is, omnipotent but is he? Yes, he is not. I am hoping that I am not offending you but in your old Testament, the text is saying that your god has a certain weakness that is making him unable to win all the battles. Yes.

I am hoping that I am not offending you when I am citing this verse that you are undoubtedly finding very awkward to read. Yes. It is in the Judges Chapter 1 verse 19 and it is saying And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron. Yes, I am using the italics to show the citation, yes. Yes, I am thinking that I might be offending you when I am citing another verse that you must also be finding very painful to be reading. It is also in the Judges Chapter 4 and verse 3, yes. And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel.

Yes, these verses are saying that even if your god was fighting with you, he would not be winning as the iron chariot is something that is too strong for him. I am very surprised that such a commonplace item would be defeating your god. I shall be discussing this with the pupils in my RME that is Religious and Moral Education Class and be warning them that they should not be relying too much on your god even if they are still christians. Sadly, many of them are not. Yes, I am hoping that you will not be too distraught about this thing, yes. You will now know that your god is weaker than you were thinking. This is Harsha Shah and I am wishing you all a jolly nice autumn or spring if you are living in the southern hemisphere. Yes!
I am using blue text to show the noun the pronoun refers to, in your quote.







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As we saw in the blue section, God was not at any disadvantage due to the presence of iron. Were you suggesting that God is the geomagnetic field, using Himself as a carrier of some sort and modulating His prime frequency to communicate with the tiny magnetic fields surrounding the nerve cells in our brains? Ball theorists claim that the alpha-rhythm expressed as a wavelength represents the approximate circumference of their ball so that each brain would be sitting at its own node; if therefore you're suggesting thoughts and/or dreams are fluctuations one way or the other from that rest point (within the geomagnetic field) and that God intrudes by inducing harmonics somehow I'm afraid you're very much mistaken. Sure, 900 tons of iron would mess things up but in Judges Chapter 4 we see that God is very much unimpeded. Your iron/magnetism hypothesis fails. I have allowed one ton of iron per chariot.
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Judges is a great book and chapter four one of my most cherished communications from The LORD. Knowing how much He loves me is particularly important and here He helps us to understand why. I'm surprised you chose verse three though. It's the exact verse I'd have chosen myself. Here it is in context.

Judges 3:29 – 4:3
And they [Israel] slew of Moab at that time about ten thousand men, all lusty, and all men of valour; and there escaped not a man. So Moab was subdued that day under the hand of Israel. And the land had rest fourscore years. And after him [Ehud] was Shamgar the son of Anath, which slew of the Philistines six hundred men with an ox goad: and he also delivered Israel.
And the children of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD, when Ehud was dead. And the LORD sold them into the hand of Jabin king of Canaan, that reigned in Hazor; the captain of whose host was Sisera, which dwelt in Harosheth of the Gentiles. And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel.

The precise reason why this was necessary is not provided. Who was acting and why He was acting and how He was acting is absolutely straightforward. This is not happening because God is weak: it's happening because He's strong. I've included some technical details in this post because you're a teacher. Did you notice a grammatical connection in my preamble? Here it is again, highlighted, together with a portion of your quote similarly highlighted in red.



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Yes, I am thinking that I might be offending you when I am citing another verse that you must also be finding very painful to be reading. It is also in the Judges Chapter 4 and verse 3, yes. And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel.

Yes, these verses are saying that even if your god was fighting with you, he would not be winning as the iron chariot is something that is too strong for him.


Iron chariots were clearly too strong for Israel, not because they were unassisted by God but because God was fighting against them. I've used yellow highlighting here. If during previous encounters God had activated His magnetic field to melt all the chariots, what would remain to so distress Israel? He needed to show them Who Was Boss in ways they could understand. Induction hobs make use of similar principles when cooking with iron pots and at divine amplitudes I'm sure those pots would melt. I'm so glad He's the Boss of me because now I am free. You can be free too.
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