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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Basilissa
You can call it whatever you like, but I'm defending what the Bible says. Period.
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No your not defending the bible your defending a belief hich twists scripture that is pushed by a cult that doesn't even practice true christianity
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 04:55 PM
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No your not defending the bible your defending a belief hich twists scripture that is pushed by a cult that doesn't even practice true christianity
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I don't care who believes it. The point is, that the Bible says that only people who accepted Jesus as their Savior are going to Heaven (John 3:18). Babies do not fit this definition. Case closed.
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 05:02 PM
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I don't care who believes it. The point is, that the Bible says that only people who accepted Jesus as their Savior are going to Heaven (John 3:18). Babies do not fit this definition. Case closed.
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Babies are automatically in Gods goor grace when they are unborn and when they are born. Stop twisting scripture
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 05:03 PM
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Babies are automatically in Gods goor grace when they are unborn and when they are born. Stop twisting scripture
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Not be a word Nazi; you can't even practice basic spelling and punctuation, dear. Please stop skewering our beloved language.
Are you sure you're from the US, as indicated in your intro post? I'd expect so much more from a fellow American. Were you old enough to take advantage of Leave No Child Behind when that was a thing?
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02-05-2019, 05:07 PM
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Babies are automatically in Gods goor grace when they are unborn and when they are born. Stop twisting scripture
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I meant to type good not goor
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 05:09 PM
You need to slooooooooooooooooow down. (Slow down )
Type properly and spend more time reading the scripture posted here by the wise TC's.
Maybe then you can read God's Word, and understand the Truth, before spouting off what you *think* the Bible said.
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02-05-2019, 05:12 PM
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Not be a word Nazi; you can't even practice basic spelling and punctuation, dear. Please stop skewering our beloved language.
Are you sure you're from the US, as indicated in your intro post? I'd expect so much more from a fellow American. Were you old enough to take advantage of Leave No Child Behind when that was a thing?
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I meant to type good. It was a misspelling
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OneFailure
Babies are automatically in Gods goor grace when they are unborn and when they are born. Stop twisting scripture
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Have you already forgotten about the original sin of Adam and Eve?
Romans 5:12 - Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: -> That means, we are all born sinners.
John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. -> That means, only the baptized people can go to Heaven, because baptism cleanses us of our sins (including the original sin we inherit from Adam and Eve). Babies and fetuses which died unbaptized go to Hell.
Acts 2:41 - Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls. -> That means you have to accept Jesus as your Savior first before you are baptized. That means child baptism does not work, which means babies who died after being baptized in their infancy also go to Hell.
Also, please stop accusing me of twisting Scripture. God hates that (Proverbs 6:16-19) and He will punish you accordingly:
Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DolliMoans
You need to slooooooooooooooooow down. (Slow down )
Type properly and spend more time reading the scripture posted here by the wise TC's.
Maybe then you can read God's Word, and understand the Truth, before spouting off what you *think* the Bible said.
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It was misspelling
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Basilissa
Have you already forgotten about the original sin of Adam and Eve?
Romans 5:12 - Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: -> That means, we are all born sinners.
John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. -> That means, only the baptized people can go to Heaven, because baptism cleanses us of our sins (including the original sin we inherit from Adam and Eve). Babies and fetuses which died unbaptized go to Hell.
Acts 2:41 - Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls. -> That means you have to accept Jesus as your Savior first before you are baptized. That means child baptism does not work, which means babies who died after being baptized in their infancy also go to Hell.
Also, please stop accusing me of twisting Scripture. God hates that (Proverbs 6:16-19) and He will punish you accordingly:
Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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You are twisting scripture. In order to be a true Christian one mustn't believe twist scripture
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 05:32 PM
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You are twisting scripture. In order to be a true Christian one mustn't believe twist scripture
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Please demonstrate and prove that I am twisting the verses I have quoted.
I'll wait.
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 05:35 PM
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Please demonstrate and prove that I am twisting the verses I have quoted.
I'll wait.
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I don't need to you can do that yourself just do some research on calvanism and the subject of infant destination and you'll see what I mean
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02-05-2019, 05:40 PM
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I don't need to you can do that yourself just do some research on calvanism and the subject of infant destination and you'll see what I mean
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I just debunked infant damnation several times already and I'm not going to continue unless I have to. Infant damnation isnt even believed by most baptists.
It's not even a Baptist belief and it's not even an evangelical belief. You'll have no idea how many baptists I have seen on internet forums or even videos say that they would comfort parents who have lost a child or a brother who has lost a baby sister and they believd that babies are in heaven
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 05:56 PM
Those aren't real Baptists dear. Those are likely Presbyterians or Episcopalians at best.
You've debunked nothing, and ignored everything, including what is written in the Bible!
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02-05-2019, 05:59 PM
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Those aren't real Baptists dear. Those are likely Presbyterians or Episcopalians at best.
You've debunked nothing, and ignored everything, including what is written in the Bible!
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Yes I did debunk the belief I've shown all the evidence their is
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 06:00 PM
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Yes I did debunk the belief I've shown all the evidence their is
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Where? Quote and show, with relevant links and scripture.
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 06:17 PM
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I don't need to you can do that yourself just do some research on calvanism and the subject of infant destination and you'll see what I mean
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I don't want to research Calvinism. I don't care what the Calvinists believe. I just care about what the Bible says.
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I just debunked infant damnation several times already
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That's a lie, you only copied a text authored by someone else, and I have properly rebuked it with Scripture.
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Infant damnation isnt even believed by most baptists.
It's not even a Baptist belief
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Dear, adult baptism (and, by extension, damnation of dead babies) it is the fundamental belief which separates Baptists from non-Baptists.
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For your reference, I'm copying the relevant verses again:
Romans 5:12 - Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: -> That means, we are all born sinners.
John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. -> That means, only the baptized people can go to Heaven, because baptism cleanses us of our sins (including the original sin we inherit from Adam and Eve). Babies and fetuses which died unbaptized go to Hell.
Acts 2:41 - Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls. -> That means you have to accept Jesus as your Savior first before you are baptized. That means child baptism does not work, which means babies who died after being baptized in their infancy also go to Hell.
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You'll have no idea how many baptists I have seen on internet forums or even videos say that they would comfort parents who have lost a child or a brother who has lost a baby sister and they believd that babies are in heaven
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And they will burn in Hell for believing against what the Bible says.
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Yes I did debunk the belief I've shown all the evidence their is
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Well, since there is no evidence in the Bible, the "evidence" you provided is meaningless.
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 06:20 PM
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Where? Quote and show, with relevant links and scripture.
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Look back at my posts debunking it!
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 06:25 PM
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I don't want to research Calvinism. I don't care what the Calvinists believe. I just care about what the Bible says.
That's a lie, you only copied a text authored by someone else, and I have properly rebuked it with Scripture.
Dear, adult baptism (and, by extension, damnation of dead babies) it is the fundamental belief which separates Baptists from non-Baptists.
From Wikipedia:
For your reference, I'm copying the relevant verses again:
Romans 5:12 - Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: -> That means, we are all born sinners.
John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. -> That means, only the baptized people can go to Heaven, because baptism cleanses us of our sins (including the original sin we inherit from Adam and Eve). Babies and fetuses which died unbaptized go to Hell.
Acts 2:41 - Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls. -> That means you have to accept Jesus as your Savior first before you are baptized. That means child baptism does not work, which means babies who died after being baptized in their infancy also go to Hell.
And they will burn in Hell for believing against what the Bible says.
Well, since there is no evidence in the Bible, the "evidence" you provided is meaningless.
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Well it matters if your taking a calvanist talking point and making it your own.
Unbaptized babies are innocent of sin they dont have the capacity to sin
Also child baptism does work so stop. Second baptisms are not required
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Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument -
02-05-2019, 06:29 PM
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Look back at my posts debunking it!
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I haven't seen you addressing Scripture I have cited.
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Well it matters if your taking a calvanist talking point and making it your own.
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The only talking points I take are directly from the Bible. You can keep calling me names, that doesn't bother me. In fact, I feel blessed by your persecution.
Luke 6:22 - Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you [from their company], and shall reproach [you], and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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Unbaptized babies are innocent of sin they dont have the capacity to sin
Also child baptism does work so stop. Second baptisms are not required
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So is the Bible lying in the verses I cited?
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