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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 07:24 PM

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I wasn't saying that I thought the story was wrong or had a different meaning, Im saying that, to me, it's just a STORY.
So you are saying Abraham (and implicitly Wash) is a LIAR friend? And you dare accuse us of being judgmental and harsh.



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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 07:42 PM

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To YOU it may be true, but to me it's not.
This has been a common issue for a long time now thanks to the evils of science and logic.

People have been relying far too much on "external reality," "evidence," and "critical thinking" to determine what is true or false. It has led to so many different interpretations of what the truth is, I weep for the confusion and amorality of future generations.

The good news is that it doesn't have to be so confusing. Fortunately for all of us, immovable, hardcore-literalist Bible-believing Christianity that is utterly unaffected by science and logic is still alive and well in the 21st century.

Because what we believe is true, there is no logic in your assertion that what's true for us is not true for you.

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I don't believe that a religion should be based on fear and worship of "god", it should be based on love and appreciation of nature and life.
It is plainly foolish not to fear somebody who can wipe out all life on the planet Earth with a wave of His hand, burn down entire cities for sodomy, and turn water into wine.

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As long as you live a good and wholesome life, don't harm yourself or others, and have a loving heart, you're set for whatever it is that happens after death.
Where in the Bible does it say that? That may be what New Age, feel-good religion teaches you, but the Bible (the TRUTH) says otherwise.

While you're busy living a good and wholesome life (doing drugs), harming yourself (masturbating), and having a loving heart (masturbating others), you are ignoring GOD's instructions regarding the stoning of homosexuals and adulterers, spitting in JESUS' face by wearing mixed fabrics, and offending the Almighty by being friends with unchristian people.

The ordinary nuances of everyday life that you fail to even notice could make the difference between eternal life and eternal damnation. Only one who reads and follows the Bible to the letter knows for sure what to say, think, do and wear. There is zero uncertainty in my mind about where I will be spending eternity.

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We don't know what's true or not.
See above paragraph.

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No, I can not prove that there is no god, but I also can't prove that there's not a meatball with 12 eyes sitting in the earths core. (Im not comparing god to a meatball, I'm comparing proving existence to a meatball)
Well first of all you have to prove that the earth HAS a so-called "core."

I never read about any core in the Bible. Is the earth an apple?

I can prove that GOD is real, because I am a Christian, and I am real.



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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 07:59 PM

I am not calling him a lair. I said that I hope the story isn't true and that I don't blindly believe everything that I read. I hope it's not true, but I never said that I think he's a liar. And yes, to me that bible story, is just a story and did not actually take place in history.
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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 08:09 PM

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I am not calling him a lair. I said that I hope the story isn't true and that I don't blindly believe everything that I read. I hope it's not true, but I never said that I think he's a liar. And yes, to me that bible story, is just a story and did not actually take place in history.
As an Officer of the Law, I can assure you Wash tells the truth.

He phoned me on the evening of his test and alerted me to disregard any reports to police that evening about gunmen tying up his grandchildren.

I told him on the phone he deserves one of those "World's Best Grandpa" shirts.
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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 08:20 PM

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It is plainly foolish not to fear somebody who can wipe out all life on the planet Earth with a wave of His hand, burn down entire cities for sodomy, and turn water into wine.
I do not believe in a god that does such things, I do not believe that the bible stories are true. And, like I said, that's my OPINION, that the bible stories are not truth, and your OPINION is that they are. GOD DID NOT WRITE THE BIBLE, according to the bible, he "inspired" the writers, so if the only proof that the bible is truth is in the bible, well, sorry, but thats still an opinion.

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Where in the Bible does it say that? That may be what New Age, feel-good religion teaches you, but the Bible (the TRUTH) says otherwise
Like I said, I don't believe in the bible. I was raised Catholic, but I never belived in any of it, I found that I belived in the wonder of nature and life, not the bible and it's god that scares you into belief by saying that you'll spend all of your afterlife suffering if you don't follow him.

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While you're busy living a good and wholesome life (doing drugs), harming yourself (masturbating), and having a loving heart (masturbating others), you are ignoring GOD's instructions regarding the stoning of homosexuals and adulterers, spitting in JESUS' face by wearing mixed fabrics, and offending the Almighty by being friends with unchristian people.
You don't know me at all sir, I do not do drugs, and I do not consider them wholesome, where did I say that I do drugs? I said as long as you're NOT harming yourself, and who said that I masturbate? Where did that come into play here? By harming yourself, I mean, drug abuse. And again, I said NOT harming other and by harming others, I meant putting them down, harassing them and hurting them. SEX IS A BEAUTIFUL AND NATURAL THING.

I see the good and beauty in life and nature and love. I make good, moral choices, and I have read the bible, I just didn't blindly swallow it.
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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 08:25 PM

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I told him on the phone he deserves one of those "World's Best Grandpa" shirts.
He drugged his grandchildren with chloroform...and I'M the one who got an infraction for child abuse by saying that what he did is wrong?
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I just didn't blindly swallow it.
This is a Christian forum. Nobody here wants to read about your disgusting habits, harlot.


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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 08:35 PM

Isn't being a pervet considered a sin to you? Because I meant nothing of that sort... I meant it as the saying, as in I didn't just blindly believe what I was told.

And wow, harlot, really? What, you can't have a mature conversation without calling names?
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Isn't being a pervet considered a sin to you? Because I meant nothing of that sort... I meant it as the saying, as in I didn't just blindly believe what I was told.
"Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled."

You have proven that you are an unbeliever, therefore it is not perverted for me to pick out your vile hidden innuendos.

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And wow, harlot, really? What, you can't have a mature conversation without calling names?
Should I be thanking for you posting your pornography on here instead?


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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 08:52 PM

Wow, I didn't mean it like that at all. It's an old expression, not a hidden innuendo. You're the one being perverted, so if we're going by that quote, then wouldn't that make you the unpure one? Because if you were pure, you would have known that I was talking about the expression, to me it was pure and not an innuendo. Nice try though.

I noticed that it says "unsaved trash" under my name now, thats nice, I haven't called you names or cursed at you, I've been mature on here...this is kind of sad.
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To get this thread back on track, I give you a standing ovation for your ways, Mr. O'Hanley. Jesus has really shown you the path! I am VERY happy that your grandchildren were caught by you before they could be traumatized by some sinful intention. Praise the Lord!


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Um, so a sinful intention is more traumatizing than being drugged, tied up, and threatened to be killed?
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Um, so a sinful intention is more traumatizing than being drugged, tied up, and threatened to be killed?
I don't know how they make pizza in your neighborhood, but in Freehold pizzas are free of drugs. And traumatizing children is irrelevant, all that matters is saving their souls.


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I took out a rag doused in chloroform and held it over her mouth.
In the United States, chloroform began to replace ether as an anesthetic at the beginning of the 20th century; however, it was quickly abandoned in favor of ether upon discovery of its toxicity, especially its tendency to cause fatal cardiac arrhythmia analogous to what is now termed "sudden sniffer's death" Fatal oral dose of chloroform may be as low as 10 mL (14.8 g), with death due to respiratory or cardiac arrest. It is immediately dangerous to life and health at approximately 500 ppm, according to the U.S. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. Breathing about 900 ppm for a short time can cause dizziness, fatigue, and headache. Chronic chloroform exposure can damage the liver where chloroform is metabolized to phosgene) and to the kidneys, and some people develop sores when the skin is immersed in chloroform.
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And, like I said, that's my OPINION, that the bible stories are not truth, and your OPINION is that they are.
You're only half right here. It is your opinion that the Bible stories are not truth, but I know for a fact that they are truth. I know because I am a Christian and the Bible tells me so. That's as solid as proof gets.

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GOD DID NOT WRITE THE BIBLE, according to the bible, he "inspired" the writers, so if the only proof that the bible is truth is in the bible, well, sorry, but thats still an opinion.
If GOD didn't write the Bible, how come He addresses us personally in so many verses and signs off with "I am the LORD your GOD"?

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Like I said, I don't believe in the bible. I was raised Catholic, but I never belived in any of it, I found that I belived in the wonder of nature and life, not the bible and it's god that scares you into belief by saying that you'll spend all of your afterlife suffering if you don't follow him.
It's unfortunate that you were raised in a false religion, but it's no excuse to not convert to the one true religion, mine.

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You don't know me at all sir, I do not do drugs, and I do not consider them wholesome, where did I say that I do drugs?
If you're not a Bible-believing conservative Christian, what's stopping you from doing drugs? Or from murdering, raping and killing for that matter? As far as you're concerned, there is no right or wrong because it's all just an "opinion."

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I said as long as you're NOT harming yourself, and who said that I masturbate? Where did that come into play here?
I assume you masturbate at least five or six times a day, since you were raised Catholic and are now an unbelieving, secular sinner. Again, what's stopping you?

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SEX IS A BEAUTIFUL AND NATURAL THING.
If sex is a "beautiful" and "natural" thing, why does GOD police it so thoroughly, and provide so many instructions on the proper and improper application of our private parts?

Having sex with, say, a member of your same sex is not natural or beautiful, and that's why GOD has so much to say about it. Mainly about killing people who practice such things.

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I see the good and beauty in life and nature and love. I make good, moral choices, and I have read the bible, I just didn't blindly swallow it.
People like you make me sick. I can't wait to see this disgusting, sinful world engulfed in a ball of flames. The longer you try to make the world a beautiful place, the longer it's going to take for Armageddon to get here!

All you're doing is tempting people to want to enjoy what the world has to offer, just to distract them from what REALLY matters, and that is a simple life of servitude and relentless dedication to our LORD and MASTER, GOD ALMIGHTY.



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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 10:13 PM

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People like you make me sick. I can't wait to see this disgusting, sinful world engulfed in a ball of flames. The longer you try to make the world a beautiful place, the longer it's going to take for Armageddon to get here!
And people like you make ME sick, and if the world goes down engulfed in flames, well sweetie-pie your goin down with it.
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And people like you make ME sick, and if the world goes down engulfed in flames, well sweetie-pie your goin down with it.
Oh nice another Pedophile joined us. Why dont you go and do some Scat Games with your Gayfriend?
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Default Re: How to find out if your children really love Jesus - 10-21-2010, 10:18 PM

Where do I even start here? There are SO many things wrong with what you just said.
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I know for a fact that they are truth. I know because I am a Christian and the Bible tells me so. That's as solid as proof gets.
No, your opinion is simply an opinion as well. If I wrote a book about an almighty applejuice, and said that it was the truth and that if eveyone didn't follow it and believe in it, they'd die a painful, alfwul death and that you had to follow everything said in this book because I wrote in the book that everything written in the book was truth...and the only proof that the book is truth is that I wrote "this is turth" in the book...well, sorry, but thats not a solid fact at all.

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If GOD didn't write the Bible, how come He addresses us personally in so many verses and signs off with "I am the LORD your GOD"?
Because anyone could have written that? Anyone can claim that god told them to do this that and the other thing, it doesn't make it true.

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If you're not a Bible-believing conservative Christian, what's stopping you from doing drugs? Or from murdering, raping and killing for that matter. As far as you're concerned, there is no right or wrong because it's all just an "opinion."
Um...my morals?! Just because I don't believe in the bible or Jesus or hell doesn't mean I'm a bad person. I've already stated on here that I don't think harming someone else is right at all. I believe in life and nature and love. and you're going to tell me that there isn't "Bible-believing conservative Christians" who've comitted rapes and murders?

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I assume you masturbate at least five or six times a day, since you were raised Catholic and are now an unbelieving, secular sinner. Again, what's stopping you?
Five or six times? You don't even know me, there's no way that you can make those kinds of claims about me. I'm a minor, and for you to say that to me is just SICK. And about me being a " unbelieving, secular sinner" I do believe in something, LOVE, POSITIVE ENERGY, LIFE AND NATURE. I am a good person with good morals, I don't harass people simply because they're different than me, or call them rude names like you do.

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People like you make me sick. I can't wait to see this disgusting, sinful world engulfed in a ball of flames. The longer you try to make the world a beautiful place, the longer it's going to take for Armageddon to get here!
I tried being nice and respectful, but you pushed me too far here, it's people like you that make me sick, the horrible horrible things that you say about innocent people who have done nothing wrong on here made me cry. how can you sleep at night knowing that you spread around this hate? YOU are the one who needs to be saved.
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