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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-09-2018, 08:06 AM

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Fair enough.

But what was with all the so called ‘trolling’?

You saw a place where devout people come together to share their most cherished beliefs and the first thing that you could think of was to troll us.

You have apologised and if true I forgive you. But part of forgiveness is explaining why you did it in the first place?

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when I first came here you were all nice and full of advice, then some members stated saying my name wrong and it upset me that asked respectfully to please say it right or call me curtis, but instead evetyone started doing it and I snapped. I don't always think before I act I just go with the emotion the swells (in that case anger) and I do mean my apology I'm ready to learn from you all.


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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-09-2018, 11:14 AM

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I come here to make amends and still you disrespecting me wow
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you are disrespecting my Grandfather. He passed away before he died
Wow!

And we're off again, on a trip so far from what I came here for, but that's some stunt right there. And then he died. The olds tend to do that.

Please try to keep up with why this thread is here and what you've been asked to post in it.


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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-09-2018, 11:53 AM

You say you come in peace, but the Bible says the antichrist will claim he comes in peace. Furthermore, the Bible tells us the antichrist will establish a false peace. See Thessalonians 5:3.


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Jesus Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-09-2018, 05:49 PM

So let's move on, shall we? Everyone is forgiven, there are rainbows and blue birds in the sky, sparrows are singing gently as the warm breezes kiss our skin.


Let's get to praising Jesus.


Proverbs 21:31 KJV 1611:
“The horse is prepared against the day of battell: but safetie is of the Lord.”

Lord, may I serve my equine brothers and sisters just as I do my fellow man.
Amen and Amen
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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-09-2018, 07:35 PM

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So let's move on, shall we? Everyone is forgiven, there are rainbows and blue birds in the sky, sparrows are singing gently as the warm breezes kiss our skin.


Let's get to praising Jesus.
Amen Brother Larry


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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-09-2018, 08:57 PM

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Amen Brother Larry
So Curtis, how about you telling something about the Bible. And we start a discussion that can open some minds to the Lord?


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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-09-2018, 09:06 PM

Curtis is young in his faith, and might not have much to tell us. But surely he must have questions?


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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-10-2018, 02:36 AM

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So Curtis, how about you telling something about the Bible. And we start a discussion that can open some minds to the Lord?


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why did they call it a cross in Matthew Luke and John, but in acts They called it a tree


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Bible Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-10-2018, 03:20 AM

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why did they call it a cross in Matthew Luke and John, but in acts They called it a tree
Thank you for your question. While it is OK not to mention the particular verses you're referring to, it would be helpful for your interlocutors if you did so, just for future reference. Here are some of the pivotal verses.

Matthew 27:42
He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

Luke 23:26
And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus.

John 19:19
And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Acts 5:30
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

And though you didn't mention Mark, we could assess that one as well:

Mark 15:30
Save thyself, and come down from the
cross.


At this moment we (unfortunately) have to turn away from the most perfect form of the Bible, the King James Version, and look at the Greek text, the vernacular that the uneducated élite of Jesus's time spoke among themselves. Of particular importance is the word for "tree". We can find it in the Acts verse.

Πράξεις τῶν Ἀποστόλων 5:30
ὁ Θεὸς τῶν πατέρων ἡμῶν ἤγειρεν Ἰησοῦν, ὃν ὑμεῖς διεχειρίσασθε, κρεμάσαντες ἐπὶ
ξύλου.


We find the word ξύλου, the genitive neuter singular of the word ξύλον [xýlon] that has the meaning of (dead) tree. So now we know that it refers to processed wood and not a growing, live tree that would have been referred to with the word δένδρον [déndron]. Is this different from the "cross" that appear in the other verses listed? They all derive (different cases but same root) from the word σταυρὸν [stauròn, not to be confused with the Sauron cult], a "stake", a "cross". As you can see, it is always a question of "processed wood". The meanings are the same and apparently these verses were transmitted by the Holy Spirit with somewhat different vocabularies for diversity and to keep up the attention of the Unsaved (and it was kept up as we can see based on your nice question).

The situation is analogous to the one that would take place if you asked what was the difference between "living in a building" and "living is a house". Thank you for your attention. You've now begun your journey into Biblical Studies. 31097 verses to go!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer


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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-10-2018, 05:02 AM

I must admit I have no idea what this strange person is rabbiting on about, It's hardly very peaceful to start fights and dig up your poor dead grandpa for no reason.
I mainly wanted to thank Professor White for the above post, once again I have gained deeper knowledge of Gods word from this august forum.


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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-11-2018, 09:15 AM

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Thank you for your question. While it is OK not to mention the particular verses you're referring to, it would be helpful for your interlocutors if you did so, just for future reference. Here are some of the pivotal verses.

Matthew 27:42
He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

Luke 23:26
And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus.

John 19:19
And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Acts 5:30
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

And though you didn't mention Mark, we could assess that one as well:

Mark 15:30
Save thyself, and come down from the
cross.


At this moment we (unfortunately) have to turn away from the most perfect form of the Bible, the King James Version, and look at the Greek text, the vernacular that the uneducated élite of Jesus's time spoke among themselves. Of particular importance is the word for "tree". We can find it in the Acts verse.

Πράξεις τῶν Ἀποστόλων 5:30
ὁ Θεὸς τῶν πατέρων ἡμῶν ἤγειρεν Ἰησοῦν, ὃν ὑμεῖς διεχειρίσασθε, κρεμάσαντες ἐπὶ
ξύλου.


We find the word ξύλου, the genitive neuter singular of the word ξύλον [xýlon] that has the meaning of (dead) tree. So now we know that it refers to processed wood and not a growing, live tree that would have been referred to with the word δένδρον [déndron]. Is this different from the "cross" that appear in the other verses listed? They all derive (different cases but same root) from the word σταυρὸν [staurònm not to be confused with the Sauron cult], a "stake", a "cross". As you can see, it is always a question of "processed wood". The meanings are the same and apparently these verses were transmitted by the Holy Spirit with somewhat different vocabularies for diversity and to keep up the attention of the Unsaved (and it was kept up as we can see based on your nice question).

The situation is analogous to the one that would take place if you asked what was the difference between "living in a building" and "living is a house". Thank you for your attention. You've now begun your journey into Biblical Studies. 31097 verses to go!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer
This!

In the same way the younger folks these days refer to paper as ‘a dead tree’.

This is evidence that Christianity is again on the rise: most likely due to the God appointed rise to prominence of Jesus’ Earthly choice for leader of the free world The Donald!

YIC


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Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-12-2018, 12:11 AM

Wait, is this Cursed Ward Grinch? Under a new name? We can do that?
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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-12-2018, 12:26 AM

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The fact that it's a bannable offense (covered in the terms of service) and, in certain circumstances, a federal crime in the USA (unauthorized access to a computer system), does not physically preclude you from creating an alternate account.


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Wait, is this Cursed Ward Grinch? Under a new name? We can do that?
His name is Curtis and he is here now to discuss the Bible. Are you? If so, please ask questions or show your knowledge so we all can benefit.


Why would you come back with another username?


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His name is Curtis and he is here now to discuss the Bible. Are you? If so, please ask questions or show your knowledge so we all can benefit.


Why would you come back with another username?
Like I said I was in the wrong, and I apologise to anyone and everyone, and I'm here to learn from you the right way I truly come in peace.


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Like I said I was in the wrong, and I apologise to anyone and everyone, and I'm here to learn from you the right way I truly come in peace.
Dear Curtis,


From the continuous espousement of your apologies and your begging for forgiveness, I see that you may have actually realised the error of your ways. It reminds me of a verse from Lamentations 3 in which God tells us of how a man who, having been totally and completely broken down by God, finally finds God's Love. What you need to remember is that God is not gentle. He is Harsh. He will punish you and break you. He will put the teeth from your mouth. He will destroy your family. But at the end of the day you will see clearly and beg for God's help and apologize for scorning Him.


So, Curtis, do not waste your time begging for our forgiveness, rather Pray to God that, in His mercy, He will accept your pleas and maybe Save you from an eternity of suffering.


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The fact that it's a bannable offense (covered in the terms of service) and, in certain circumstances, a federal crime in the USA (unauthorized access to a computer system), does not physically preclude you from creating an alternate account.
problem with that is I have a Job, a car and a Bible. Since turning 18 I have done nothing to warrant unauthorized access to computer systems. I would not be able to have my job. Where I use a Linux OS on an IBM computer, for my registers point of sale interface.


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From the continuous espousement of your apologies and your begging for forgiveness, I see that you may have actually realised the error of your ways. It reminds me of a verse from Lamentations 3 in which God tells us of how a man who, having been totally and completely broken down by God, finally finds God's Love. What you need to remember is that God is not gentle. He is Harsh. He will punish you and break you. He will put the teeth from your mouth. He will destroy your family. But at the end of the day you will see clearly and beg for God's help and apologize for scorning Him.


So, Curtis, do not waste your time begging for our forgiveness, rather Pray to God that, in His mercy, He will accept your pleas and maybe Save you from an eternity of suffering.


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I have and I felt really terrible about how I acted up here. So I had to come make amends.


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I have and I felt really terrible about how I acted up here. So I had to come make amends.
Dear Curtis,


Now is the time to start making those ammends of which you speak.


Psalms 34:14 - Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.


This little verse always inspires me. I hope it inspires you too.


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Default Re: I come in peace let's talk - 06-12-2018, 05:29 PM

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I use a Linux OS on an IBM computer
Which Linux, Curtis? There are literally hundreds of distros. On a somewhat related note, are you aware of a reasonable GIS software, something that would open/edit ArcGis maps, that would run on Ubuntu 16.04? (I do have WINE, but I admit that using Windows-based software on WINE does lead to use of indecent language at times, so I'd prefer something that was actually designed for Debian-derived OS).

Anyway. I am glad to see you, as this time around you seem to be willing to be more accepting Jesus' Word as is, rather than as you would like it to be.

I hope you have found some time to review Dr. White's excellent treatise about the difference between living and dead trees. It was such a beautiful explanation.
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