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Default Re: Pokemon: (aka Poke-a-man) still a threat to families - 03-03-2008, 07:09 AM

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I SERIOUSLY hope you're not suggesting that Pokemon is responsible for this and placing the blame on it above the fact that your grandson is three and can hardly be expected to know better.



Right, because all card games are the same. Like how playing popular games like 'Go Fish' and 'War' is just a step towards divination and Tarot reading.

[sarcasm]A company that's actually trying to SELL their product? Oh my God! Sinners! Capitalism is the work of the devil![/sarcasm]

And lots of things distract children from other duties. Sports. Girls. Almost everything poses a possible distraction. It's not because it's demonic. It's just due to the malleable nature of children at this age.



I realize why occult and evil is bad, but I really don't see anything like that in this series. The closest thing I see is ghosts, which while I'll admit is not great, is only a small, relatively unimportant part of the series and ghosts are never viewed occultly. There's no demon summoning or spell casting or anything like that.



Again, it's just something that capitalism dwells on. They dwell on the malleable nature of children. While it can pose a potential problem early on, most children do grow out of it proving that the phase is just that: a phase.



I'm really not sure where this comes from. There's nothing remotely close to that in the official Pokemon rulebooks.



Can you please provide a works cited to something about this? It's hard not to think you could be making this up without citing resources. Even adults can be guilty of having too many wants. That's why credit card debt is so high. People, adults and children, want things and want them now. It's not that these things are manipulative. It's simply that Americans want gratification NOW.



Children have always wanted things. It may not be as high tech as it is today and may have been something more like a doll or a model kit. But they still want it, and parents can either give in or stand their ground.



I'm not going to argue with this. It's good advice, and people should be aware of what their kids are into. However, it's important to realize what's fact about something and what's not.

After hearing God's warning and praying for His wisdom, nine-year-old Alan Brannan...was convicted to burn his cards...



A few of these traits do apply to Pokemon. Most of them don't, however, and a lot of the common 'character traits' you mentioned, such as stubborn and obnoxious, are viewed as bad and hindering qualities.



I fail to see how growth and supernaturality go hand-in-hand.



Saying something's demonic because it originated in Japan is NOT the best way to make Asian-American friends.



Again the issue of citing. How can people truly know the facts and make an unbiased opinion without specific examples? You mentioned that it's "manipulating the minds and feelings of children..." How? And what is meant by humanistic wisdom and spirituality?



I'm not really sure what you mean. Can you give a specific example? And anyways, even if it may be influenced by it, the show is not about Japanese mysticism at all.



Do you really think they MEANT to give children seizures with that episode? It was an accident that a combination of colors didn't go well with a few people, and nothing more.



Again, how? Where are you getting this from? Have you actually read these sources? If not, how can you make these judgements?

...The Bible says: EPH 5:8-17 "For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them...



Why is it such a problem for people to accept that things can have similar names, and yet not be at all similar. I'm not sure how it is used in other religions and rituals, but in Pokemon it is simply a way to organize the different Pokemon by their weaknesses and strengths.

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How? Simply because children like it? Children like lots of things. But simply because it brings them pleasure it's evil?



Again, how? It does nothing to help anyone if they don't know what you mean?



This is one aspect I was surprised to see. However, as I thought about it, I realized it wasn't that bad. The money isn't real and isn't comparable in anyway to paying off your bookie or the like. Again, it's only a small aspect and not likely to get children hooked on gambling.



How is a Hebrew symbol connected to a pagan religion again? And while I will admit that the Star of David has been used, it HASN'T been used as the Star of David, or any other religious symbol. It was only a simple design without any religious connections at all.



The point wasn't that tears can resurrect. It was that the love and compassion has the ability to save. It also showed that while the cloned Pokemon were clones, they still had basic emotions like compassion and love.



Pokemon are never shown to die. They simply faint, and most good trainers pull them out of the battle before it comes to that.



How is this offensive? It's saying you can achieve greatness, no matter what your conditions of arrival here were. Weather you born to a rich, wealthy family or a starving family who can barely feed themselves, it doesn't determine what you become.



There's a huge difference between the evolution of Pokemon and of the world. Evolution simply means "change" or "growth." That's what Pokemon do when they evolve. They grow.



Psychic powers in the Pokemon are world are viewed differently than the how we tend to view it occultly. It's seen as a naturally ability. A gift. It's not occultic at all.



I don't think Mewtwo is supposed to be a gargoyle, or a demon at all. He's viewed as an incredibly powerful Pokemon who uses his powers for bad, but then realizes his mistake and gives up the way of evil. Demons rarely convert.



Again, citing resources would be helpful. Maybe a picture, or an episode number at least? And how can you assume it was supposed to be sensual? Maybe it was an accident, or one of the artists slipped it in and no one noticed.
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Default Re: Pokemon: (aka Poke-a-man) still a threat to families - 03-08-2008, 02:59 PM

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i seriously hope that this is a joke.

I will respect that different people have different views, but to throw a childrens television series into damnation and cite that it is evil and unholy is rediculous.
We're not the ones who made the damned (literally!) thing in the first place!
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This conglomerate is merely attempting to make profit by providing entertainment for children, and it has done so very succesfully for nearly a decade.
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Also as somebody else said, entertaining the fact that just because Pokemon [of which i am a fan BTW] was made in Japan makes it evil, will not gain you very many friends whom have Oriental backgrounds.
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Default Re: Pokemon: (aka Poke-a-man) still a threat to families - 03-29-2008, 11:26 PM

Replying to one subject, Pokemon and evolution.
Do tadpoles not turn into frogs through a process either -called- evolution, or similar to this process? And also insects. Do insects not "evolve" ?
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Do tadpoles not turn into frogs through a process either -called- evolution, or similar to this process? And also insects. Do insects not "evolve" ?
What are you, a moth pervert or something? Why the facsination with vermin?

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Default Re: Pokemon: (aka Poke-a-man) still a threat to families - 04-08-2008, 02:08 AM

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What are you, a moth pervert or something? Why the facsination with vermin?

Have you ever read the Holy Bible, boy?
Actually, yes I have.
And why did you not reply to my question.
And a frog is not a vermin, nor is an insect.
Amphibians and... well, insects. I'm just making a point, and apparently you don't like it.
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Actually, yes I have.
And why did you not reply to my question.
And a frog is not a vermin, nor is an insect.
Amphibians and... well, insects. I'm just making a point, and apparently you don't like it.
Well, what's your point? I got lost when you said a frog was an insect.




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Default Re: Pokemon: (aka Poke-a-man) still a threat to families - 04-08-2008, 02:26 AM

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Well, what's your point? I got lost when you said a frog was an insect.
My point is, that things in real life evolve, or come close to it. Are you calling them abominations just because of this? What has a frog or an insect ever done to you? Besides what it was put on the Earth to do in the first place. And don't say insects suck your blood, because everyone here has consumed some sort of meat product before in their life.
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You evolved from a frog or an insect? I'm still not clear.


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My point is, that things in real life evolve, or come close to it. Are you calling them abominations just because of this? What has a frog or an insect ever done to you? Besides what it was put on the Earth to do in the first place. And don't say insects suck your blood, because everyone here has consumed some sort of meat product before in their life.
Son, what you are talking about here is amphibian metamorphosis, not evolution.

I rest my case, 2 million years of human evolution can't produce anything smarter that where it started.


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Obviously not, with that attrocious spelling. And I said something "close" to evolution.
You certainly don't seem to know much on the subject. This should help you.


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He was rude, cheeky, wouldnt eat any lunch, tried to run away several times, bit his big sister hard on the arm and made her cry...
It would appear to me that this could be because the mother is terrible at raising children. The child could have been under duress from a lack of sleep, or the grandmother may be a relative stranger to him, causing him to be nervous around her, thus his behavior. Stop trying to link everything to video games. You should gain more backing to your stories and not believe everything you hear, all any of us know, is that the child plays video games, and dosn't want to eat lunch. Also, he was acting the way most tired 3 year olds do, rude and cheeky. You don't have any idea why he bit his sister or ran away. It is extremely possible it has nothing to do with a video game.


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It would appear to me that this could be because the mother is terrible at raising children.
Typical liberal, always blaming the victim. I guess you blame 9/11 on people who drive SUVs, while completely ignoring the homosexuals who angered God and caused Him to decide to punish America.

Clearly you have been brainwashed by the socialist propaganda that is Pokemon. Do you even know what Pokemon is named after? It's named after the Soviet propaganda film, Battleship Pokemon. Try doing your research before spouting your hatred of America, terrorist.
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Default Re: Pokemon: (aka Poke-a-man) still a threat to families - 06-25-2008, 09:05 AM

So what, Pokemon was just another trend, when I was young you had GI-Joe, Lego, Mecano and several other things. It's you people that always try to link this towards sexual and evilness while neither of those are applicable to it. I must really believe that you are all frustrated people.
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So what, Pokemon was just another trend, when I was young you had GI-Joe, Lego, Mecano and several other things. It's you people that always try to link this towards sexual and evilness while neither of those are applicable to it. I must really believe that you are all frustrated people.
If something as seemingly innocuous as Meccano could turn you into a twisted demon-worshipping goffic drug addict who hates Jesus, Freedom, and everything that is decent, I shudder to think what effects Pokeaman must be having on the youth of today!


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If something as seemingly innocuous as Meccano could turn you into a twisted demon-worshipping goffic drug addict who hates Jesus, Freedom, and everything that is decent, I shudder to think what effects Pokeaman must be having on the youth of today!

And you know me how again?? You claim I'm a drug addict while I never ever taken any drugs in my life, I even detest pharmaceutical drugs. And Oh, I don't worship demons. the only demon you can find in this world is the one inside of you.
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And you know me how again?? You claim I'm a drug addict while I never ever taken any drugs in my life, I even detest pharmaceutical drugs. And Oh, I don't worship demons. the only demon you can find in this world is the one inside of you.
How dare you suggest that a Godly man like Brother Temperance has demons in his colon!! He is NOT some depraved Sodomite!!


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How dare you suggest that a Godly man like Brother Temperance has demons in his colon!! He is NOT some depraved Sodomite!!

The demons you all want to fight so badly are all inside you, so basically you are all fighting against yourself. Face it, there are no demons running around on this planet, only people. It's for the people to decide if they do wrong or not, they have a free will. The only thing religion wants to do is taking away that free will, it's always "you may not do this, you may not do that, blahblahblah" without any sane explanation. If somebody wants to put his slung inside the ass of another man then it's fine with me, it doesn't bother me because I'm not a part of that action. I have gay friends but they know they don't have to try that crap with me, they know I'm straight and they respect that, they don't try to grab my ass or lure me into their behavior or anything else.
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The demons you all want to fight so badly are all inside you, so basically you are all fighting against yourself. Face it, there are no demons running around on this planet, only people. It's for the people to decide if they do wrong or not, they have a free will. The only thing religion wants to do is taking away that free will, it's always "you may not do this, you may not do that, blahblahblah" without any sane explanation. If somebody wants to put his slung inside the ass of another man then it's fine with me, it doesn't bother me because I'm not a part of that action. I have gay friends but they know they don't have to try that crap with me, they know I'm straight and they respect that, they don't try to grab my ass or lure me into their behavior or anything else.
Duck,

You believe the earth revolves around the sun and humans are decedents of some magical walking fish. Now why would you have any credibility on the subject of the existence of demons when you believe in silly stuff like that? No Duck, Christian scientists have proven the existence of demons long ago.



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You believe the earth revolves around the sun and humans are decedents of some magical walking fish. Now why would you have any credibility on the subject of the existence of demons when you believe in silly stuff like that? No Duck, Christian scientists have proven the existence of demons long ago.
Oh, is that so?? where are the photographs (real ones, not faked photoshop crap) and other proof?? I'll tell you where it is, Nowhere, Demons do not exist in real, they only exist in your fantasy.
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