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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 12:30 AM
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you're dealing in absolutes instead of degrees. the bible isn't either 100% true or 0% true. it could be 99.9% or 30% or 12% or 1% or 9% it really isn't a true false statement.
the bible is accurate enough by my estimation to warrant the assertion that Jesus was a Jew , and his teachings and life are coherent with Libertarian ideology.
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That's crazy talk!
Of course Jesus was a Jew and the Word of Almighty God is infallible. It isn't 90 or 99% true, it is all of it, 100% correct and exactly the way it is and has always been. Every single word of the Bible is God's rules, advice (mandatory) and some revelations of what is to come. One of God's promises is to send every unsaved wretch to Hell. You won't like it there.
Why not reject devilish philosophies and come to Jesus before it's too late?
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09-19-2013, 12:42 AM
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That's crazy talk!
Of course Jesus was a Jew and the Word of Almighty God is infallible. It isn't 90 or 99% true, it is all of it, 100% correct and exactly the way it is and has always been. Every single word of the Bible is God's rules, advice (mandatory) and some revelations of what is to come. One of God's promises is to send every unsaved wretch to Hell. You won't like it there.
Why not reject devilish philosophies and come to Jesus before it's too late?
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God didn't write the bible men did , If god wanted us to have the exact instruction book to the universe he'd have given us one to Adam. I'm more of a transcendentalist so I get more into the meaning of the words not the book itself, considering I read the bible in English, and it wasn't written in English the words mean different things when they are translated, the slight nuances of language, is the bible more true in English than it is in Spanish?
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 12:46 AM
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God didn't write the bible men did , If god wanted us to have the exact instruction book to the universe he'd have given us one to Adam. I'm more of a transcendentalist so I get more into the meaning of the words not the book itself, considering I read the bible in English, and it wasn't written in English the words mean different things when they are translated, the slight nuances of language, is the bible more true in English than it is in Spanish?
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Friend, do you think Henry Ford wrote the user manul to a car?
Of course God did not write the Bible, why should He? He did review it and if there were errors, He would of had them corrected. Does it tell you anywhere in it that there are sections you can skp or ignore?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 12:46 AM
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God didn't write the bible men did , If god wanted us to have the exact instruction book to the universe he'd have given us one to Adam. I'm more of a transcendentalist so I get more into the meaning of the words not the book itself, considering I read the bible in English, and it wasn't written in English the words mean different things when they are translated, the slight nuances of language, is the bible more true in English than it is in Spanish?
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The Bible is God's rulebook, written through God by men, so it is essentially written by God.
And that's exactly what he made. The Bible IS an exact instruction book. If you don't follow God's instructions, you won't be Saved. It's pretty simple, I'm not sure what you're failing to understand.
John 16:33
"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
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09-19-2013, 01:01 AM
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Friend, do you think Henry Ford wrote the user manul to a car?
Of course God did not write the Bible, why should He? He did review it and if there were errors, He would of had them corrected. Does it tell you anywhere in it that there are sections you can skp or ignore?
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why do you call me friend when you hate me more than satan? I guess you use it ironically.
some parts of it yes. Mosaic law seems to have been superseded by Christs law.
or do you still live the mosaic law and avoid eaten meat from cloven animals and all that jazz
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 01:03 AM
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why do you call me friend when you hate me more than satan? I guess you use it ironically.
some parts of it yes. Mosaic law seems to have been superseded by Christs law.
or do you still live the mosaic law and avoid eaten meat from cloven animals and all that jazz
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No friend, I do not hate anyone. Sorry. I just follow what God tells me.
No friend, I do not listen to that blood boiling nigra jazz stuff, that will make you pick up the Devil needle.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 01:47 AM
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…100% …0% …99.9% …30% …12% …1% …9% it really isn't a true false statement ..and so on
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So if it's 12% true, how do you decide which is the 12% true bit and which is the 88% false bit?
How did you decide that the bit about Jesus is in the true bit?
I'll ask you again, please post the stuff you have which demonstrates the "false" bits to be false and the "true" bits to be true and I'd expect to see specific references to Jesus in what you supply, because that's one part you assess as "true" according to whatever standard you're using. I'd like to see the standard.
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09-19-2013, 02:14 AM
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So if it's 12% true, how do you decide which is the 12% true bit and which is the 88% false bit?
How did you decide that the bit about Jesus is in the true bit?
I'll ask you again, please post the stuff you have which demonstrates the "false" bits to be false and the "true" bits to be true and I'd expect to see specific references to Jesus in what you supply, because that's one part you assess as "true" according to whatever standard you're using. I'd like to see the standard.
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alright, I have very little confidence that Eve was made up of Adams rib, but I do think the historical person Jesus did live.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you aren't familiar with the concept of Occam's razor are you.
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 02:33 AM
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alright, I have very little confidence that Eve was made up of Adams rib, but I do think the historical person Jesus did live.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you aren't familiar with the concept of Occam's razor are you.
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So you just go with what "feels" right to you. How do you determine what's likely in quantum physics? What seems least paradoxical to you on Thursday? By your standard [at present you don't seem to have one] the genetic engineers are up the spout too. They all agree that if one were to "clone" an Eve, rib tissue would be the best to use. What sounds least complex? That God utilised His design in the most efficient way possible taking stem cells from rib tissue? Or that He'd go the more complex-to-impossible route of using adrenal glands or toenails?
According to you, how did the authors of Genesis know that rib tissue is the best route? The simplest explanation would be because it's true.
What evidence do you have for Jesus? Why do you accept that less likely scenario when you reject the much simpler genesis of Eve? If you reject The Bible you must have some other source. Where is it?
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 02:44 AM
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So you just go with what "feels" right to you. How do you determine what's likely in quantum physics? What seems least paradoxical to you on Thursday? By your standard [at present you don't seem to have one] the genetic engineers are up the spout too. They all agree that if one were to "clone" an Eve, rib tissue would be the best to use. What sounds least complex? That God utilised His design in the most efficient way possible taking stem cells from rib tissue? Or that He'd go the more complex-to-impossible route of using adrenal glands or toenails?
According to you, how did the authors of Genesis know that rib tissue is the best route? The simplest explanation would be because it's true.
What evidence do you have for Jesus? Why do you accept that less likely scenario when you reject the much simpler genesis of Eve? If you reject The Bible you must have some other source. Where is it?
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"they all agree " is where I stopped reading , if you can cite your source of every geneticist in the world agreeing on that I'll convert now, if you can't I'm going to call you for the liar you are. worshiping Satan and his deceit.
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 02:50 AM
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alright, I have very little confidence that Eve was made up of Adams rib, but I do think the historical person Jesus did live.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you aren't familiar with the concept of Occam's razor are you.
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Well now that simply doesn't make sense. Occam's razor would suggest Jesus didn't exist, that the stories attributed to Him are naught but a Jewish spin on Egyptian and later Greek dying-and-resurrecting-gods. But you don't believe that do you? You believe Jesus really did exist, really did walk on water, really did heal the sick, and really did die on the cross for the sins for people like me who believe. Why do you believe that if it's not the most simple explanation?
I know why.
Your soul is crying out to its Redeemer!
You see, what your soul is trying to tell you is explained in the Bible - we have all sinned; we have all committed evil acts (Romans 3:10-18). Because God is perfect and the ultimate in Goodness (Psalm 100:5; Psalm 106:1; Psalm 107:1; Psalm 135:3; 1 Chronicles 16:34; ), he is disgusted and enraged at our sinfulness. Essentially, He can’t stand us, and because He is God, He doesn’t have to because no one can make Him. He has decided that we deserve nothing less than eternal torture, and pain, and agony for having made a perfect God uncomfortable with the way we are not similarly perfect. The only appropriate punishment for sins committed against an infinite and eternal God is an infinite and eternal punishment (Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:11-15). This is why God created Hell. It’s only fair after all.
But check it out, Jesus Christ came to earth and died in our place! He didn’t have to do so, but He chose to do so. Jesus and God worked out The Ultimate Plan (2 Corinthians 5:21) because they’re pretty tight, being the Same Person (John 10:30), yet Different Persons (John 17:1). This plan was decided some time before we were ever born. It doesn’t really matter, since we probably wouldn’t have been consulted anyway, but They/He decided that Jesus would die temporarily to pay the penalty for our sins (Romans 5:8) so that God could forget all about them (Isaiah 65:17; Isaiah 43:25). Jesus paid the penalty He determined He (as God) required just so that we would not have to. Wasn’t that sweet?!?
Jesus' resurrection from the dead just goes to show that His death was sufficient to pay the penalty for our sins. No mere human could have done that, thus proving Jesus is the one and only Savior (John 14:6; Acts 4:12)!
Now, if I were to offer advice, I would suggest you start reading the Holy Bible, all of it. We know that "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17). So to be safe, perhaps you should read the Holy Bible out loud so you can also hear it. Then you will have faith, and then you can be Saved©!
Oh friend, I want to encourage you to open your heart to Jesus! Let Him come into your soul, and ask you to marry Him in Heaven in a most wonderful and not-gay-when-it's-with-a-man way (Isaiah 54:5; Ephesians 5:31-32; Revelation 19:7)!
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Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 03:10 AM
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is the bible more true in English than it is in Spanish?
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Yes.
The King James Bible is an exact translation of the Holy Scriptures from the original Greek, Aramaic and Jew.
The Mexican version is, at best, a translation of the King James Bible into the heathen Mexican language. More likely, it is some bogus Catholic version with witchcraft and sorcery.
I am beginning to lose hope that you can be saved. I will pray for you, but I doubt it will do any good. You will likely wind up in the section of Hell that has all the other philosophers. There's always plenty of room at that inn. Jimmy Carter will be there soon. Maybe they will let you sit by him.
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 03:11 AM
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In the bone marrow, there is approximately one stem cell in every 100,000 blood cells. The bone marrow in the breast bone, skull, hips, ribs, and spine contains the stem cells.
In the blood stream, the number of stem cells is about 1/100 of that in the bone marrow.
http://nyp.org/health/blood-bonemarr.html
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Of these sources, the physicians declare, breastbone and ribs have the richest supply of pluripotent stem cells because they have the most richly oxygenated blood supply.
Go to a butcher,
Purchase the selection of bones mentioned (and a microscope I suppose).
Break them up and see for yourself.
If you get a different result: publish.
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09-19-2013, 03:21 AM
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Of these sources, the physicians declare, breastbone and ribs have the richest supply of pluripotent stem cells because they have the most richly oxygenated blood supply.
Go to a butcher,
Purchase the selection of bones mentioned (and a microscope I suppose).
Break them up and see for yourself.
If you get a different result: publish.
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ROFL what a stretch , from " every geneticist in the world" to now... just you? j
go ahead an worship your god clone eve more. I don't put restraints of god, maybe the bible is figurative at portions, maybe sometimes its not, I don't tie god down and tell him how he must be, that's you , look out for lighting bolts while you steady the ark.
and may clone eve be with you.
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09-19-2013, 04:55 AM
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ROFL what a stretch , from " every geneticist in the world" to now... just you? j
go ahead an worship your god clone eve more. I don't put restraints of god, maybe the bible is figurative at portions, maybe sometimes its not, I don't tie god down and tell him how he must be, that's you , look out for lighting bolts while you steady the ark.
and may clone eve be with you.
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You are not supposed to "tell God what to do." He tells you what to do, and if you don't listen, you're destined for eternal damnation.
John 16:33
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 07:10 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you aren't familiar with the concept of Occam's razor are you.
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What has a papist monk got to do with anything?
All he did was state the obvious i.e. that the simplist answer is normally the correct answer.
Using this logic the simplist answer is that the Holy Bible is 100% True. Therefore we are right and you, my mind numbingly irritating little friend, are wrong.
Isaiah 66:15
For behold, the Lord wil come with fire, and with his charets like a whirlewinde, to render his anger with furie, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
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Re: Pray to keep the British out of the U.S.A. -
09-19-2013, 08:51 AM
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ROFL what a stretch , from " every geneticist in the world" to now... just you? j
go ahead an worship your god clone eve more. I don't put restraints of god, maybe the bible is figurative at portions, maybe sometimes its not, I don't tie god down and tell him how he must be, that's you , look out for lighting bolts while you steady the ark.
and may clone eve be with you.
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I did not mention geneticists.
Neither is Eve a clone. If Adam were "cloned" the result would be male, not female. But none of these are my ideas, they are ideas promoted by "scientists" falsly so called in a programme of disinformation designed to lure fools away from God.
PSALM 14:1…The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. KJV So Eve was not cloned, but the point here is that not even these "scientists" are able to concoct a theory despite their earnest endeavour which has any effect other than to reinforce God's account of Creation as it actually happened. I don't have much interest in stem cells but do know where they come from. The simplest search throws up many results.
..Origin of stem cells gave me about 11,400,000 results.
..Stem cells gave about 63,000,000 results.
For that to be useful to you however you'd need to know what the words mean so I am not sanguine.
Ribs remain the best source of adult stem cells.
But God is not limited in the way atheistic scientists are. When He explains about the sky He made for example, it is not some "magic" or "figurative" sky He describes but the real, actual sky. When astrologers make up stories about Osiris or Venus or invent new words like galaxy & quark star and devote much energy to make their stories fit together even advising their mug punters when to hang out in singles bars, they are worshipping the whole array of Heaven, corruption in the Eyes of God and therefore in the eyes of every Christian.
DEUTERONOMY 4
15a Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves..
16a Lest ye corrupt yourselves..
19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
KJV . look up The Bible describes many things, not just the sky and Eve. The most important message preserved for us by God is the message of Salvation. Most people have rejected this Revelation and therefore will finish up in molten sulphur FOREVER. They will not go unconscious. They will be tormented endlessly because they trusted to shifting sands as cooked up by the very scientists a heathen depends on for certainty (whatever they think that means when every year brings a new rebuttal, yet another "theory" with plague, famine and despair).
The Bible is specific:
LUKE 21
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
KJV
These are the Last Days. Have you got right with God? If Jesus appeared right now, would you rejoice? Or would He cast you out into the furnace where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I trust this has been helpful.
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09-20-2013, 12:20 PM
To get back to the original thread subject, yes many British people will be leaving. I say good riddance to them. It will be all the parasitic foreigners who have dragged Britain back to the middle ages. It will leave us true Christian's to rebuild Britain's greatness and go back to doing what we used to do. Invading France.
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09-20-2013, 12:50 PM
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..... go back to doing what we used to do. Invading France.
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Amen! That and the Crusades against the Salad Djinns are what the British people did best and what put the "Great" into Great Britain. These days France is a mooselimb country so we can kill two birds with one stone.
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09-20-2013, 02:29 PM
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you're dealing in absolutes instead of degrees. the bible isn't either 100% true or 0% true. it could be 99.9% or 30% or 12% or 1% or 9% it really isn't a true false statement.
the bible is accurate enough by my estimation to warrant the assertion that Jesus was a Jew , and his teachings and life are coherent with Libertarian ideology.
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First, I doubt that you could show us anything in the Bible that is not true, second, it would be ironic to say the least if Jesus were a Jew given that the Jews don't believe in Jesus. Finally, for Jesus to be Jewish, he would have to originate from a Jewish mother. Now, assuming that Mary was Jewish is simply not good enough. We know that Jesus existed before He was born and before mankind was created *. Obviously, then He can't be Jewish because (i) prior to the end of Noah's flood, there were no races and (ii) God the Father would have to be Jewish, which is simply not possible as God is without a race as He is not human.
*John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”
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