[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by David(atheist)

dont call me friend, im not friend to close minded extremists...the one that has the kkk riding on the white horse of the kkk....with the burning cross that symbolizes the kkk....

Friend, have you developed a stutter?

Brother Bobby-Joe's avatar has got nothing to do with those people who hate the pigmentally challenged. How often do we have to explain this?

[David(idiot)]

well as often as anyone whose ever seen a dipictted kkk member...duh...because that would be the picture everyone would see the kkk as. and i thought people from england were smart....have you done anything in your life to push forward christianity rather than try to move it back-water?

[StarrKingGrad]

I have a myth about Christianity to debunk, and that's that True Christians don't have dark, secret lives. Don't believe me? Then try Googling "Ezekiel Flint" "broken man". When you click the link that Google brings up, Statement From Ezekiel Flint - The Landover Baptist Church Forums, you'll get a notice saying that you don't have access to that page.

Then click the cached page link and learn the real story behind the hidden pages of Landover. Broken man, indeed.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by StarrKingGrad

I have a myth about Christianity to debunk, and that's that True Christians don't have dark, secret lives. Don't believe me? Then try Googling "Ezekiel Flint" "broken man". When you click the link that Google brings up, Statement From Ezekiel Flint - The Landover Baptist Church Forums, you'll get a notice saying that you don't have access to that page.

Then click the cached page link and learn the real story behind the hidden pages of Landover. Broken man, indeed.

What in the world are you talking about, friend? I performed that very search, and I got:

Your search - "Ezekiel Flint" "broken man" - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

• Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
• Try different keywords.
• Try more general keywords.
• Try fewer keywords.

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I imagine in a few hours, that search might bring up this thread, but nothing that suggests Pastor Zeke is not on the level. Where would you get an idea like that?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Maybe he's talking about my broken watch. It got damaged somehow the other day. I backhanded sister BTB after she forgot the onions on my sandwich, maybe it happened then.

Anyway, thanks for the concern, but it isn't a "deep dark secret." Sister Thumper took it to the Rolex dealer. It should be out of the shop in a few days. I have others, so it's really not much of a crisis.

[JawOfAnAss]

Originally Posted by David(idiot)

well as often as anyone whose ever seen a dipictted kkk member...duh...because that would be the picture everyone would see the kkk as. and i thought people from england were smart....have you done anything in your life to push forward christianity rather than try to move it back-water?

You look like an alien AND your spelling is atrocious.
Who is your dean? There is a pressing need to put a hold on any degrees until you can prove that you're literate.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Originally Posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben

What in the world are you talking about, friend? I performed that very search, and I got:

Your search - "Ezekiel Flint" "broken man" - did not match any documents.

What a surprise. A Jewnitarian minister just making stuff up to suit his personal beliefs. Truly pathetic.

If he insists on launching these baseless attacks against Pastor Zeke or other True Christians, the moderators should quarantine his sorry behind.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by David the goliath

i did that search...i got something

Of course you did. Didn't I say this earlier:

Originally Posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben

I imagine in a few hours, that search might bring up this thread

What do you know? That search does bring up this thread now. Will wonders never cease!

Originally Posted by google

Web Results 1 - 1 of 1 for "Ezekiel Flint" "broken man". (0.12 seconds)

Debunking common myths about Christianity - Page 5 - The Landover ...
Then try Googling "Ezekiel Flint" "broken man". When you click the link that Google brings up, Statement From Ezekiel Flint - The Landover Baptist Church ...
www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?p=191961 - 17 hours ago - Similar pages

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[MissSarahKaitlin]

What right have any of us to judge others and be so hateful. Christians are not called to hate others. Jesus emphasized loving others more than anything. It deeply saddens me to see the message that Landover is sending to anyone who doesn't understand true Christianity. It is not a fair representation and I am quite prepared to defend my Savior and His messages. Please send me a private message if you disagree with me, which I am sure most of you do, and I would be more than happy to discuss it with you.

In Christ,
SS

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by MissSarahKaitlin

What right have any of us to judge others and be so hateful. Christians are not called to hate others. Jesus emphasized loving others more than anything. It deeply saddens me to see the message that Landover is sending to anyone who doesn't understand true Christianity. It is not a fair representation and I am quite prepared to defend my Savior and His messages. Please send me a private message if you disagree with me, which I am sure most of you do, and I would be more than happy to discuss it with you.

Did you read the original post and the Scripture verses that it quotes? What do you make of them?

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Originally Posted by MissSarahKaitlin

Jesus emphasized loving others more than anything.

What do you make, then, of Matthew 10:37, in which Jesus said, He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me? I read that as saying that salvation is more important than love.

It deeply saddens me to see the message that Landover is sending to anyone who doesn't understand true Christianity.

Here's an example of true Christianity: When the city of Capernaum refused to turn to Christ, despite the many wonders he had worked there, he said:

...thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee. Matthew 11:23-24

It doesn't get more truly Christian than when Jesus said it himself, don't you think?

It is not a fair representation and I am quite prepared to defend my Savior and His messages.

Excellent. I await your "defense" of Matthew 10:37 and Matthew 11:23-24. I've got some more sayings of Jesus to discuss, but those can wait until you've helped me to understand these two.

Please send me a private message if you disagree with me, which I am sure most of you do, and I would be more than happy to discuss it with you.

No need for PMs, we can discuss this right here in the forum. That way, everyone will benefit from your wisdom, not just me.

In Christ

Indeed.

[ImmortalTechnique]

Great post brother, thank you!

[Michael]

Amen. I hope that you share more of your wisdom with us!

[hidden]

1. "Jesus was all about peace."

peace in body, war in the heart

2. "Jesus loves everyone."

He does. But he loves with fire and water.

3. "Christians aren't allowed to judge anyone."

You have been given free will. But if you have judged one person he will judge you twice.

4. "Christians hate you if they rebuke you."

Only jesus knows how to love. You only love to receive. You even preach to receive your just reward. Jesus loves without reward.

5. "Jesus did away with the Old Testament law."

Yes he did. But he was not so silly to say it in front of them all and get nailed to the cross before his time.

6. "You need only believe in Jesus to get into heaven."

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES... this is all you must do. But you do not know what belief is. He will come and you will deny him to his face. You must believe him when he comes. Anyone can believe he existed.

7. "You don't need to believe everything in the Bible."

The bible matter not. Words matter not. Believe what jesus says when he comes and you are saved. Come to him and repent. And you are saved.

8. "Jesus will forgive every single one of your sins if you repent."

Only if you repent in your heart and look at him in the eye. Not one person will not make the mistake of repenting in the mind first. For only jesus knows the heart. And he will teach you the heart when he comes.

9. "Babies always go to Heaven if they die."

I tell you. No one has gone to heaven yet who has been born on this earth.

Enjoy these truths and goodbye

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Let's score your exam, shall we?

Originally Posted by hidden

1. "Jesus was all about peace."

peace in body, war in the heart

Wrong! Jesus will return with a sword and execute billions.

Revelation 19

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

2. "Jesus loves everyone."

He does. But he loves with fire and water.

Wrong again. Jesus loves those who follow Him. Everyone else is cast into Hell to be burned alive for ever and ever. Does that sound like "love" to you?

3. "Christians aren't allowed to judge anyone."

You have been given free will. But if you have judged one person he will judge you twice.

More wrongness! We are commanded to judge with righteous judgment.

Leviticus 19:15

Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

4. "Christians hate you if they rebuke you."

Only jesus knows how to love. You only love to receive. You even preach to receive your just reward. Jesus loves without reward.

Nope. Christians rebuke out of love. We will do anything we must to you -- browbeat, flog, torture, burn alive -- to help you find Jesus, so you will not have to spend an eternity in Hell. THAT'S what Christian Love is all about!

Jesus did away with the Old Testament law."

Yes he did. But he was not so silly to say it in front of them all and get nailed to the cross before his time.

Wrong again!

Matthew 5

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 or verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

6. "You need only believe in Jesus to get into heaven."

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES... this is all you must do. But you do not know what belief is. He will come and you will deny him to his face. You must believe him when he comes. Anyone can believe he existed.

NO NO NO NO NO NO . . . Wrong again.

You must believe in Him and follow His commands . . . repent of all sin and follow the entire Law, not just the bits you like.

Romans 2

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

7. "You don't need to believe everything in the Bible."

The bible matter not. Words matter not. Believe what jesus says when he comes and you are saved. Come to him and repent. And you are saved.

Wrong! How do you know God but by His Word? Are you going to hope that you are still alive when Jesus comes? If you die beforehand, too late! Hell for you!

Matthew 24:42
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

And you will not have been counted among His followers anyway, because you did not rest on faith, but waited for "empirically testable evidence"!

Luke 13

23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,

24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.

27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

8. "Jesus will forgive every single one of your sins if you repent."

Only if you repent in your heart and look at him in the eye. Not one person will not make the mistake of repenting in the mind first. For only jesus knows the heart. And he will teach you the heart when he comes.

Hmmm. I think you got one partly right.

But, do you know what it means to "repent"? You didn't explain it, so I will. It means not only to sincerely be sorry for offending God with your petty sins, but to realize how much you hurt Him by disobeying Him, and never ever sinning again.

It's not repentance if you say "Gee, I'm sorry, let me do three Hail Marys" and then go out and do it again next weekend.

9. "Babies always go to Heaven if they die."

I tell you. No one has gone to heaven yet who has been born on this earth.

That doesn't even answer the question. Babies have been born on earth if they die.

However, a baby lacks the understanding to accept Jesus. Therefore, babies cannot go to Heaven.

Enjoy these truths lies intended to turn you from Christianity and send you to Hell and goodbye

You seem to have made a spelling error, which I have corrected for you.

Looks like you get partial credit for one answer, and the remainder wrong. You fail.

[JeffVonHaffen]

I am going to print out this post and distribute it to the so-called "Christians" in my family and at my work. It is the perfect rebuttal to all their mealy-mouthed garbage about how "Jesus loves everyone" and "God wants everyone to go to heaven."

Do they think that Ted Bundy and Che Guevara are going to heaven? Maybe to their heaven, where their will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

[Thomas W]

The greatest ungodly myth I've encountered, is probably that Jesus is quoted to say "Hate the sin but love the sinner.".
Nowhere in the holy Bible does it say this!
It is a lie spread by sinners in order to trick people into loving them!
(...and when the sinners couldn't pin this quote to Jesus Christ, the tried to say that Ghandi said it.)

This was first said by Bishop Augustine, in his book City of God (page 304):
“It is clear, then, that the man who does not live according to man but according to God must be a lover of the good and therefore a hater of evil; since no man is wicked by nature but is wicked only by some defect, a man who lives according to God owes it to the wicked men that his hatred be perfect, so that, neither hating the man because of his corruption nor loving the corruption because of the man, he should hate the sin but love the sinner. For, once the corruption has been cured, then all that is left should be loved and nothing remains to be hated.”

Augustine is talking about perfecting your hatred, so that you can hate someone because of HIS SINS, so that ONCE THE SINNER HAS BEEN SAVED, you are able to love the FORMER sinner.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Thomas W

This was first said by Bishop Augustine, in his book City of God (page
“It is clear, then, that the man who does not live according to man but according to God must be a lover of the good and therefore a hater of evil; since no man is wicked by nature but is wicked only by some defect, a man who lives according to God owes it to the wicked men that his hatred be perfect, so that, neither hating the man because of his corruption nor loving the corruption because of the man, he should hate the sin but love the sinner. For, once the corruption has been cured, then all that is left should be loved and nothing remains to be hated.”

Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum, which translates roughly as "With love for mankind and hatred of sins." Not so much what you are claiming.

Love the sinner hate the sin is a direct quote from Ghandi's autobiography.

[Katander]

Originally Posted by JeffVonHaffen

I am going to print out this post and distribute it to the so-called "Christians" in my family and at my work. It is the perfect rebuttal to all their mealy-mouthed garbage about how "Jesus loves everyone" and "God wants everyone to go to heaven."

Do they think that Ted Bundy and Che Guevara are going to heaven? Maybe to their heaven, where their will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Brilliant thread, I will have to do the same

[RomanK]

The ten Commandments! They say that we are not to be as humansit, yet the foundation of the ten cemmandments is of a humansit nature. No killing, no covanting, ect. Jesus was a humanist. Love others as I have loved you!

Here's something to think about.

Pharisee: A group of jews who strictly follow the laws of Moses. Moses' law being the ten commandments. Jesus had only one, why wasn't our very own saviors commandment added? /\
Even more so, if following the ten commandments is that of a Jew, which is essentially a Jewish custom, then doesn't that means those who follow the ten commandments are jews as well. yet I doubt you were born a Jew. So I guess your a false jew, as it says. Oddly enough if You are a Jew and are a Christian then I guess you have two masters, like christians do, Moses and Jesus.

There's a fine line between good and evil, and I'll ba D/\mned is anyone knows where it is.