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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 03-29-2011, 11:26 PM

Nice work! - The pre-flood science is a new topic for me and I am very interested.

Do you think that we will find some of those pre-humans, like we found the kangaroo? And was the kangaroo also found in australia, like the newer created smaller ones?
It would be interesting to know, if god changed the design because they didn't taste good.
But the reason, why they don't exist anymore is easy... who want's a giant kangaroo on a wooden ship? - That might be the reason, why all dinosaur died. A bigger ship would have solved the problem.

But how did it happen, that people today are smaller? - Was also the man recreated? - Human 2.0???
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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 03-29-2011, 11:55 PM

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Do you think that we will find some of those pre-humans, like we found the kangaroo?
Bones of pre-flood humans have, in fact, been discovered. Here are some pictures:







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And was the kangaroo also found in australia, like the newer created smaller ones?
Yes, bones of the Kangarosaurus Rex have been found in Australia among other places. See: Scientists unearth Australian T-Rex

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It would be interesting to know, if god changed the design because they didn't taste good.
That is not the case. The point of this whole article was that God, in fact, didn't really change the design. Everything just shrunk due to different conditions and circumstances after the flood.

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But the reason, why they don't exist anymore is easy... who want's a giant kangaroo on a wooden ship? - That might be the reason, why all dinosaur died.
As I already mentioned in the opening post this research proves that the dinosaurs didn't become extinct. They only became smaller due to lower oxygen levels, ultraviolet radiation, etc.

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A bigger ship would have solved the problem.
The scriptures tell us that all land animals were placed on Noah's ark, including the dinosaurs. Remember, it must have been one heck of a man building that ship.
Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days;

Genesis 7:8-9 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
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But how did it happen, that people today are smaller? - Was also the man recreated? - Human 2.0???
That's simply retarded. Now stop reading science-fiction and open your Holy Bible, young lady.
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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 03-30-2011, 05:38 PM

Dr, even more astonishing research! This should put an end to all this monkey man talk. However I fear it may not, atheists ignore good hard testable investigation like this. It does not fit their blinkered view of the world.

I admit to feeling rather foolish now though. My earlier laughable speculation that pre flood folk would have travelled around in the pouch of a Kangarosaurus Rex was very,very silly indeed.

Imagine, pre flood people travelling aroung in a great big Kangaroo!

They were clearly far too big to fit in the pouch. I can see that now.

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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 03-30-2011, 05:49 PM

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Dr, even more astonishing research! This should put an end to all this monkey man talk. However I fear it may not, atheists ignore good hard testable investigation like this. It does not fit their blinkered view of the world.
That is so true, Brother. I wish we could just bind an end to this monkey-worship nonsense once and for all.

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I admit to feeling rather foolish now though. My earlier laughable speculation that pre flood folk would have travelled around in the pouch of a Kangarosaurus Rex was very,very silly indeed.

They were clearly far too big to fit in the pouch. I can see that now.
I actually think your speculations are very likely indeed. The adult Kangarosaurus was still much larger than most humans at that time.

If you allow me I would very much like to include those speculations in my forthcoming article on the subject in Creation Magazine.
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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 03-30-2011, 07:59 PM

First of all, thank you for the usefull information! - It must have been a great time on earth, when such big animals and humans lived together.
When I fly to Australia next time, I will see these hopping small versions of the Kangarosaurus with different eyes.

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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 03-30-2011, 08:09 PM

Thank you Dr, if such a great mind of Creation Science supports the idea that's reassuring.

Dr, I wonder if you wouldn't mind looking at a theory that I have. Very close to me is the ancient monument known as Stonehenge. The true reason for this structure has always been a bit of a mystery. There have been suggestions of it being a place for pagan sacrifice. Others have suggested it was used as a solar calender. As the Sun rotates around the Earth it appears in a slightly different position each day. They suggest that it could be used to mark the positions of the Fermanental Equinoxes. However these suggestions are based on viewing height of smaller post-flood man.

However it was built around 5000 years ago. So pre-flood. As you have shown the people then would have been huge compared to modern man. It is sited miles from any population on the beautiful Salisbury plain, a lovely place to stop and take in the view. Was the true use much simpler. Is it possible that it was just a seated picnic area?

If you look at the stones in the middle you can still see the fixtures for the table top. I would by grateful for you views.

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There have been suggestions of it being a place for pagan sacrifice. Others have suggested it was used as a solar calender. As the Sun rotates around the Earth it appears in a slightly different position each day. They suggest that it could be used to mark the positions of the Fermanental Equinoxes. However these suggestions are based on viewing height of smaller post-flood man.

However it was built around 5000 years ago. So pre-flood. As you have shown the people then would have been huge compared to modern man. It is sited miles from any population on the beautiful Salisbury plain, a lovely place to stop and take in the view. Was the true use much simpler. Is it possible that it was just a seated picnic area?

If you look at the stones in the middle you can still see the fixtures for the table top. I would by grateful for you views.

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Brother, I find this very interesting to say the least. The fact that it was built 5000 years ago and given the size of the people back then, it rules out the possibility that it was built for sacrificial or astronomical purposes since then it would have been a much larger construct. I find your theory to be much more likely.

It might also have been used as a fireplace, but then again it must have been a really large fireplace in comparison to the size of the people. Also, the table top makes your theory much more likely to be true.

Either way this is definitely evidence that people grew much larger in those days than we presently do. I think you've made a huge discovery there.


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In the pre-flood world there was a canopy of water in the stratosphere. This is clearly documented in Genesis 1:6-8 which states:
"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day."


The water layer above the firmament had several important functions such as warm temperature, higher oxygen content and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and the blocking of ultraviolet radiation coming from the sun. This caused all plants and animals to grow much larger than they do today as it states in Genesis 6:4:
"There were giants in the earth in those days;"
Many secular scientists would probably try to refute this but at the same time they completely ignore the fact that this can be proven by a simple analysis.

First let's take a look at the bone structure of a kangaroo:



These are the bones of a normal Austrian kangaroo, not so much special about that… or is there?
Well, let's take a look at the following image:



Looks familiar? These are the bones of the Tyrannosaurus Rex dinosaur. According to secular science these "vicious" creatures roamed the earth "millions of years ago" before they ultimately became extinct following an "unexplained" catastrophic event.

However, if we look at the bone structures of these two separate animals we notice that they're almost completely identical. As you can see, this is a definite PROOF that the Tyrannosaurus Rex did not become extinct. It was actually just a giant kangaroo.

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The rex are from lizzard family and kangaroos are clearly not from lizzard family.,.. you sir need to restudy and get a real degree of something that is useful in today's world.
As my studies show, the theory that the T. Rex was a reptile is erroneous and outdated. It was a marsupial just like the kangaroos of modern times.


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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 03-30-2011, 09:12 PM

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The rex are from lizzard family and kangaroos are clearly not from lizzard family.,.. you sir need to restudy and get a real degree of something that is useful in today's world.
How on earth can you know that this creature was a lizard? There are not any scales preserved, and the marsupial pouch doesn't contain hard parts, so it comes as no surprise that it leaves no fossil evidence for its existence. Which means that it might just as well have existed.

And anyway, how could you say that God didn't intelligently design the T-Rex as a kangaroo? God can do anything, so he can also give a reptile a pouch.


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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 03-31-2011, 08:27 AM

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The rex are from lizzard family and kangaroos are clearly not from lizzard family.,.. you sir need to restudy and get a real degree of something that is useful in today's world.
The process of modern science works through peer group analyses. A theory is suggested and then others try to disprove it. If it cannot be disproved this then becomes valid evidence.

Yes you are correct that it was previously thought that Kangasaurus was from the lizard family however Dr Jones's outstanding and thorough research has now disproved this theory and must be now accepted at valid information.

Buy the way, It's not 'lizzard', it's 'lizard', you sir need to get a dictionary or something that is useful in todays world.

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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 04-03-2011, 03:58 PM

How can you disprove the evidence that this is clearly a load of rubbish. It is not thorough analysis at all, it is looking at a picture and saying it looks a bit like something else. It is like saying that an eel is a snake that lives in water because both are cylindrical in structure.

If you researched more you would clearly find that bone structure is completely different for starters the skull i.e. T.rex have a Diapsid skull and kangaroos have a Synapsid skull. Another example can be the legs ... In a T. rex they are clearly not designed for jumping with their entire structure suggesting this! This is just a couple of the massive list that suggests that your theory on this is wrong.
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How can you disprove the evidence that this is clearly a load of rubbish. It is not thorough analysis at all, it is looking at a picture and saying it looks a bit like something else. It is like saying that an eel is a snake that lives in water because both are cylindrical in structure.
Why couldn't you say that? After all, the Bible confirms that there are snakes that live in the water:

Isaiah 27:1:
In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
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If you researched more you would clearly find that bone structure is completely different for starters the skull i.e. T.rex have a Diapsid skull and kangaroos have a Synapsid skull.
Why does that matter? We are talking about pouches, not about the number of holes God intelligently designed their skulls with. Try to keep up.

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Another example can be the legs ... In a T. rex they are clearly not designed for jumping with their entire structure suggesting this!
Again, you cannot say that. Did you ever see a live T-Rex? Of course not. Secular scientists draw their assumptions from ridges and grooves on individual bones, and then say: "this is how the muscles probably went, so these animals couldn't have jumped."

But these are just assumptions, not facts. We can never say with certainty what the muscular structure of a T-Rex was, because there is no muscle tissue preserved. This means that the musculature of the T-Rex might just as well have been one designed for jumping.

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This is just a couple of the massive list that suggests that your theory on this is wrong.
Why don't you bring on the rest, then?


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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 04-03-2011, 04:18 PM

This is a most interesting revelation and one that will certainly open up further scientific study. I for one started to think about other marsupials and how their skeletons also appear similar to dinosaur skeletons. Granted this is not my area of expertise but is it not possible that, say, the stegosaurus is but a giant opossum? Or that another upright walking dinosaurus was merely a large wallaby?

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How can you disprove the evidence that this is clearly a load of rubbish.
My research is based on Biblical FACTS and the Holy Bible, my dear unsaved friend, is infallible.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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It is like saying that an eel is a snake that lives in water because both are cylindrical in structure.
Except that eels actually ARE snakes just like the T. Rex is, in fact, a kangaroo. The Bible refers to (giant) pre-flood eels as sea serpents or leviathans.
Isaiah 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
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If you researched more you would clearly find that bone structure is completely different for starters the skull i.e. T.rex have a Diapsid skull and kangaroos have a Synapsid skull.
I can't see any difference except that the skull of the T. Rex is, of course, much, much bigger.

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Another example can be the legs ... In a T. rex they are clearly not designed for jumping with their entire structure suggesting this!
How would you know? Do you hold a doctorate in Biblical archaeology and pre-flood animal anatomy? Didn't think so.


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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 04-03-2011, 05:03 PM

It is not a snake. Nothing about it is similar to a snake!

Where is the proof that they had pouches if tissue etc. is not still here? There foot and leg structure would not allow for significant jumping nor would the size of the tail which would be needed for balance! Surely either way what your suggesting supports evolution? - loss of teeth, head structure etc.?

Why have we got an appendix if evolution isn't happening?
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Why have we got an appendix if evolution isn't happening?
Because the Almighty God created us with an appendix.

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Default Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex: The Giant Kangaroo - 04-03-2011, 05:33 PM

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Surely either way what your suggesting supports evolution? - loss of teeth, head structure etc.?
You clearly have not read my research. Evolution is when one animal magically transforms into another. Moreover, it is just a theory and has no real basis in Biblical research.

What my research actually supports is the Biblical FACT that due to a canopy of water being present in the stratosphere (Genesis 1:6-8) everything grew much larger than it does today (Genesis 6:4).

It also supports the FACT that dinosaurs did not become extinct, as that would mean Noah having to exclude them from the Ark.
Genesis 8:19 Every beast, every creeping thing, and every fowl, and whatsoever creepeth upon the earth, after their kinds, went forth out of the ark.
Instead, after God having released the waters from the firmament, they just shrunk due to all the changes in the atmosphere.


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