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02-03-2008, 12:05 AM
I played the games and watched the show when I was littler, and have a lot of knowledge on the subject. I was reading an article somewhere on the landover site and it started talking about the evils of pokemon (which stands for pocket monsters, not pocket demons). I noticed a picture of one pokemon, pikachu, and it had fangs and the eyes were red. Pikachu does not have these features, making me conclude that the image had been altered before it was posted for the article. I found this paragraph of particular interest.
"Pokemon, (pronounced POH-kaymahn), is short for pocket demons. The Devil loving phenomenon began in Japan over 20 years ago. A young boy summoned an evil demon to kill his entire family because they wouldn't buy him a stick of chewing gum at the supermarket. The demon came, and brought with it, other pokemons who jumped into the parents mouths while they were sleeping, and lodged themselves in their tracheas, suffocating an entire family, and setting the boy free to steal their money and buy gum. "
first of all, the pokemon games and TV show were only created 10 years ago, not 20. Also, nowhere in the TV show, games, or trading cards does it say anything about lodging monsters in your parents tracheas. Honestly, I have no idea where this story came from, and I can say that it definitely doesn't come from pokemon. In fact, the television shows and games stress friendship, friendly competition, teamwork, fair play, strategy, and other good virtues. I will acknowledge that this article has its merits however. Mainly because of the existance of 3 types of pokemon, the dark type, ghost type, and psychic type pokemon, which I can see clearly contradict the bible. however, for the other types of pokemon such as water, fire, and electric pokemon, these powers are hardly "supernatural" or "occult". there are many animals that exist that can emit electrical shocks, such as the electric eel, or send searing 200 degree liquids out of themselves in defense. God has created many creative unique creatures.
In conclusion, I don't believe the pokemon is wholesome and completely pure, but I also don't believe that it is as horrible and satanic as this article makes it appear to be. If you see flaws in my thinking, I would be grateful if you would let me know and correct me.
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Re: Pokemon -
02-03-2008, 02:15 AM
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I noticed a picture of one pokemon, pikachu, and it had fangs and the eyes were red. Pikachu does not have these features, making me conclude that the image had been altered before it was posted for the article.
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Pokemon evolve into new forms. Maybe the only reason you have never seen a Pikachu with fangs and red eyes is because you fail at training.
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first of all, the pokemon games and TV show were only created 10 years ago, not 20. Also, nowhere in the TV show, games, or trading cards does it say anything about lodging monsters in your parents tracheas. Honestly, I have no idea where this story came from, and I can say that it definitely doesn't come from pokemon.
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The art of demon summoning has been around since ancient times. Nobody cares when the weeaboos started referring to it as pokemon. The tv show, games, and trading cards are just training tools to learn how to summon demons.
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02-03-2008, 03:16 AM
First of all, let's not insult each other. I think it's pretty safe to say I know more about pokemon than you do, brother habbo, and I can assure you that pikachu, it's preevolution pichu, or its evolution raichu never grow horns, or fangs, or have red eyes. the picture shown in the article is not an official picture. Second, I have another question. what makes pokemon demons, and not simply real animals?
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02-03-2008, 04:03 AM
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I can assure you that pikachu, it's preevolution pichu, or its evolution raichu never grow horns, or fangs, or have red eyes.
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Oh, so raichu was as high as you could get it to evolve? You fail.
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the picture shown in the article is not an official picture. Second, I have another question. what makes pokemon demons, and not simply real animals?
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See my answer to your first question. They become full-fledged demons when they evolve a few more times.
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02-03-2008, 04:12 AM
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Oh, so raichu was as high as you could get it to evolve? You fail.
See my answer to your first question. They become full-fledged demons when they evolve a few more times.
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand your answers. it is impossible for raichu to evolve. this is a fact, as true as god and heaven exist. hack the game yourself, and tell me if you found another level up from raichu. I will be thoroughly impressed if you do. finally, can you define what a demon is for me, so we're straight on what the term truly means?
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02-03-2008, 04:41 AM
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand your answers. it is impossible for raichu to evolve.
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Maybe impossible for YOU when you are playing. Don't make me remind you again of how bad you fail at Pokemon.
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this is a fact, as true as god and heaven exist. hack the game yourself, and tell me if you found another level up from raichu. I will be thoroughly impressed if you do.
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The picture in the article is Tenguchu. It evolves from that into Onichu.
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finally, can you define what a demon is for me, so we're straight on what the term truly means?
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A demon is an evil, unclean spirit. They can also be called devils. They possess people and cause all sorts of havok.
John 9:38 And, behold, a man of the company cried out, saying, Master, I beseech thee, look upon my son: for he is mine only child.
John 9:39And, lo, a spirit taketh him, and he suddenly crieth out; and it teareth him that he foameth again, and bruising him hardly departeth from him.
John 9:40 And I besought thy disciples to cast him out; and they could not.
John 9:41 And Jesus answering said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you? Bring thy son hither.
John 9:42 And as he was yet a coming, the devil threw him down, and tare him. And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the child, and delivered him again to his father.
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Re: Pokemon -
02-03-2008, 04:50 AM
If you don't hack the game with some other system besides Action Replay, the evolution line of Pikachu is Pichu-Pikachu-Raichu.
Serebii, the Pokemon Authority, shows the evolution line in detail.
If you want to argue that Pikachu has another step in it's evolution past Raichu, please bring it up on Bulbagarden, the main Pokemon forum site.
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02-03-2008, 04:50 AM
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Maybe impossible for YOU when you are playing. Don't make me remind you again of how bad you fail at Pokemon.
The picture in the article is Tenguchu. It evolves from that into Onichu.
A demon is an evil, unclean spirit. They can also be called devils. They possess people and cause all sorts of havok.
John 9:38 And, behold, a man of the company cried out, saying, Master, I beseech thee, look upon my son: for he is mine only child.
John 9:39And, lo, a spirit taketh him, and he suddenly crieth out; and it teareth him that he foameth again, and bruising him hardly departeth from him.
John 9:40 And I besought thy disciples to cast him out; and they could not.
John 9:41 And Jesus answering said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you? Bring thy son hither.
John 9:42 And as he was yet a coming, the devil threw him down, and tare him. And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the child, and delivered him again to his father.
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I don't see how pokemon fit your definition of demon. they are not unclean or evil, they are not spirits, and they don't possess people.
Also, I would like a source for your information about Tenguchu and Onichu.
also, how would you know about pokemon? have you played the games or watched the shows? Again, I would like to stress I'm not trying to disrespect your beliefs. I'm only inquiring about your reasoning behind claiming pokemon are satanic and how one comes to this conclusion. So please, don't insult me by saying I fail at pokemon. tell me I am misinformed, and give me some proof that I am indeed incorrect.
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Re: Pokemon -
02-03-2008, 04:54 AM
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Pokemon trainers don't "summon" Pokemon, by the way, they usually are kept in "Pokeballs" which keep the Pokemon confortable while their trainer travels. Trainers battle their Pokemon against others, never against people, using attacks that do not cause real bodily harm, such as "water gun" or "tail whip".
Pokemon will only fight in battles for their trainers if they like their trainer and are friends.
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Re: Pokemon -
02-03-2008, 04:58 AM
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There is a reason for that. Angry God-hating atheists try to undermine our mission by tricking folks into thinking that we are all just joking around. Do you think we would put this kind of effort in just to get a few kicks?
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02-03-2008, 05:00 AM
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There is a reason for that. Angry God-hating atheists try to undermine our mission by tricking folks into thinking that we are all just joking around. Do you think we would put this kind of effort in just to get a few kicks?
Our mission is serious. We are getting folks saved here. Please do not be spreading hateful lies.
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Oh, I'm sorry about that. I'll keep that to myself.
How do Athiests hate God if they don't believe He exists? Do you hate the boogey-monster?
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02-03-2008, 05:02 AM
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Oh, I'm sorry about that. I'll keep that to myself.
How do Athiests hate God if they don't believe He exists? Do you hate the boogey-monster?
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02-03-2008, 05:03 AM
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How do Athiests hate God if they don't believe He exists?
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Everyone knows God exists ( Rom 1:20). The only reason to deny God is because of hatred for Him.
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Re: Pokemon -
02-03-2008, 05:03 AM
I'm sorry to interrupt your chat, but this topic is about the holiness (or lack thereof) of pokemon. I would appreciate it if we sticked to the topic at hand, and not go into a religion war.
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Re: Pokemon -
02-03-2008, 05:05 AM
This amuses me greatly! Anyways, back to Pokemon. What do you think about this Pokemon, which is called Jynx?
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Jynx's skin color has been changed to Purple now, due to controversies that Jynx was a physical stereotype of African women.
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02-03-2008, 05:15 AM
My apologies for double-posting, but there's no edit button here, it seems.
This is the Pokemon that evolves into Jynx, appropriately named Smoochum.
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How you folks, even in your humor, could manage to call this a "demon" escapes me.
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02-03-2008, 05:17 AM
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I'm sorry to interrupt your chat, but this topic is about the holiness (or lack thereof) of pokemon.
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It has already been settled. Pokemen are demons and therefore evil. If you just want to argue against objective facts then there is little help for you.
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How you folks, even in your humor, could manage to call this a "demon" escapes me.
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I don't find any of this the least bit funny.
Demons can appear in many forms. A Demon can and will make itself cute and cuddly to lure unsuspecting children.
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02-03-2008, 05:23 AM
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It has already been settled. Pokemen are demons and therefore evil. If you just want to argue against objective facts then there is little help for you.
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But that's the article in question. I'm questioning the truthfulness of this article, which was written by a human, not god, so it can be erroneous.
If they are evil because they are demons, what characteristics or traits do all pokemon have that put them in the category of demon? like I said before, why aren't they simply real animals? If the definition of "demon" is an evil, human possessing, havoc causing spirit, then pokemon are not demons.
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Re: Pokemon -
02-03-2008, 05:23 AM
Oops, okay, then.
Sorry about the pictures, I'm new to this Forum and haven't got the rules memorized yet.
On Bulbagarden, a Pokemon website, they have a section for "Fun, Clubs, and Games". Among the clubs, is a group called the "Jesus Alliance".
This site was briefly brought up one day in the Jesus Alliance.
Only a few posts; pay particular attention to what was said by Barb
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