Hello, this is important.

Dim by Design · **Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 02:48 AM

I'm here today to talk to all who will listen. I'm only 16. I am the Grandson of a Pastor, and my Grandmother is also very religious. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for us, and that we have only 1 God, God himself. But I believe all of you aren't going about this the right way. Why must you have hatred against anyone who isn't a quintessential American? We all have flaws, God himself knows this. We aren't God's greatest creation, but instead his most loved creation. I was born me, I can't change. You were born you. I can't stand when people judge others, it's just not right. You all judge Homosexuals(along with other people you deem unworthy) and make fun of them, this isn't what God had planned. God wants you to help your fellow people, not make fun of them and alienate them even further. Everyone has feelings and they don't deserve to have fun poked at them just because who they are. But maybe we don't believe in the same God. The God I know would agree that our flaws are too deep. Our souls should be saved no matter. For example, a person who creates a robot with flaws doesn't throw it away, they try to fix it and the error is the creator's fault. This life chose me, I'm not lost in sin. And proud I stand of who I am, prepared to go on living.

A final message about prejudice.
what God would damn a heart?
and what God drove us apart?
what God could make it stop?
let this end.

This should have alot of meaning to you.

Chaplain David · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

I'm here today to talk to all who will listen. I'm only 16. I am the Grandson of a Pastor, and my Grandmother is also very religious. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for us, and that we have only 1 God, God himself. But I believe all of you aren't going about this the right way. Why must you have hatred against anyone who isn't a quintessential American? We all have flaws, God himself knows this. We aren't God's greatest creation, but instead his most loved creation. I was born me, I can't change. You were born you. I can't stand when people judge others, it's just not right. You all judge Homosexuals(along with other people you deem unworthy) and make fun of them, this isn't what God had planned. God wants you to help your fellow people, not make fun of them and alienate them even further. Everyone has feelings and they don't deserve to have fun poked at them just because who they are. But maybe we don't believe in the same God. The God I know would agree that our flaws are too deep. Our souls should be saved no matter. For example, a person who creates a robot with flaws doesn't throw it away, they try to fix it and the error is the creator's fault. This life chose me, I'm not lost in sin. And proud I stand of who I am, prepared to go on living.

A final message about prejudice.
what God would damn a heart?
and what God drove us apart?
what God could make it stop?
let this end.

This should have alot of meaning to you.

I can stand before God and say to him with a pure heart.

The lake of fire will judge more hard than I.

It is not judgment to preach to the wicked to repent from their wicked deeds...

But rather

The Love of God.

I cannot help it if ...evil doers... hate the Love of God.

Billy Bob Jenkins · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

I'm here today to talk to all who will listen. I'm only 16. I am the Grandson of a Pastor, and my Grandmother is also very religious. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for us, and that we have only 1 God, God himself. But I believe all of you aren't going about this the right way. Why must you have hatred against anyone who isn't a quintessential American? We all have flaws, God himself knows this. We aren't God's greatest creation, but instead his most loved creation. I was born me, I can't change. You were born you. I can't stand when people judge others, it's just not right. You all judge Homosexuals(along with other people you deem unworthy) and make fun of them, this isn't what God had planned. God wants you to help your fellow people, not make fun of them and alienate them even further. Everyone has feelings and they don't deserve to have fun poked at them just because who they are. But maybe we don't believe in the same God. The God I know would agree that our flaws are too deep. Our souls should be saved no matter. For example, a person who creates a robot with flaws doesn't throw it away, they try to fix it and the error is the creator's fault. This life chose me, I'm not lost in sin. And proud I stand of who I am, prepared to go on living.

A final message about prejudice.
what God would damn a heart?
and what God drove us apart?
what God could make it stop?
let this end.

This should have alot of meaning to you.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (King James Version) 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version) 22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 (King James Version) 13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

1 Kings 15:11-12 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

1 Kings 22:45-46 45Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, and his might that he shewed, and how he warred, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah? 46And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.

2 Kings 23:7 And he[Josiah] brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.

Isaiah 3:9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.

1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Romans 1:26-27,32
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 03:02 AM

How does someone hate the love of God, just by living how they were made? Creating us was enough of a show of love from God. I wish I could see what God himself would say about these times. Most of the people on these forums aren't preaching, they are poking fun.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 03:10 AM

Well, I am willing to speak to God himself when my time comes. Perhaps I never will, but I'll take my chances. I'd rather not live in a world where I see people damning each other for how they live.

Chaplain David · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

Well, I am willing to speak to God himself when my time comes. Perhaps I never will, but I'll take my chances. I'd rather not live in a world where I see people damning each other for how they live.

Are you damning these people for what they do?

Clarify that for me.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 03:18 AM

Well, I'm saying that a lot of people say wicked things to those who aren't perfect... Just like how I heard about people having signs that said "Thank God for Dead soldiers" at a soldier's funeral. This and the like disgusts me.

Jedediah · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 03:27 AM

There is no hate here, friend. If our hearts were not filled with love for all the unsaved trash of the world, why would we spend our time trying to win their souls for His Kingdom? The most hateful thing I can think of would be to ignore them as they wallow in depredation or, worse yet, molly-coddle them and tell them that their sinful nature is okay in the eyes of the LORD. God is very clear about how we are to do the work of evangelists and spread the Good News.

II Timothy 4:2-5
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

We are trying to snap them out of their delusion and exhort them to get right with Jesus! God has brought them here for a reason. For us to just ignore their desperate cries for help would be completely antithetical to the Christian Love that we all feel for all of you. Please try not to be so hostile. We are only trying to help you and the rest of the unsaved trash who come here spewing hatred. It's not too late for you or for them. We want you all to join us in Heaven. We want you all to accept Jesus' kind offer of Redemption and become a True Christians™. It is precisely because of our Christian love that we scourge and chasten unsaved trash.

Hebrews 12:5-8
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Chaplain David · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

Well, I'm saying that a lot of people say wicked things to those who aren't perfect... Just like how I heard about people having signs that said "Thank God for Dead soldiers" at a soldier's funeral. This and the like disgusts me.

The best advice I can give you at your age is to...

Obey your parents and make something good come of your time here on earth. Stay away from evil and doing evil as much as possible.

Pastor Ezekiel · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-12-2011, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

Well, I'm saying that a lot of people say wicked things to those who aren't perfect... Just like how I heard about people having signs that said "Thank God for Dead soldiers" at a soldier's funeral. This and the like disgusts me.

Who cares what you think? It's what Jesus thinks that counts!

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Who cares what you think? It's what Jesus thinks that counts!

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

I am also much obliged to say who cares what you think. And you don't know what Jesus thinks.

WinnerNotSinner · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 03:48 AM

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I am also much obliged to say who cares what you think. And you don't know what Jesus thinks.

We know exactly what Jesus thinks, it's written down for us in the Bible!

Rev. M. Rodimer · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 04:00 AM

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I am also much obliged to say who cares what you think. And you don't know what Jesus thinks.

Apparently you care enough what we think to join this church's discussion forum, uninvited, to tell us that following the Bible is wrong.

God tells us in the Bible that we should execute homosexuals, adulterers, and those who have sex with animals.. However, He also tells us we must be subject to secular laws. That means, at present, we may not execute these damned deviants. We can, however, inform them of God's hatred of them and His intent to resurrect them at Judgment (Rev. 21-22) and burn them alive for all eternity in His Lake of Fire.

Telling them of the danger to their souls is a loving act. If we just pretended they didn't exist, or worse, told them God wouldn't do exactly as He said He would with them for their wilful sin, we would be aiding them in being condemned to a fate worse than death. How is that loving?

Pastor Ezekiel · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

I am also much obliged to say who cares what you think. And you don't know what Jesus thinks.

Watch your mouth, heathen.

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Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WinnerNotSinner

We know exactly what Jesus thinks, it's written down for us in the Bible!

Yes, I agree with the bible I'm just saying that nobody knows what God is thinking right now.

Rev. M. Rodimer · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

Yes, I agree with the bible I'm just saying that nobody knows what God is thinking right now.

God says that adulterers are to be executed in the Bible, what does that tell you about what He thinks now?

And why is it a supposed Christian does not capitalize "Bible"? Not only is it God's Word, but it is a title, and thus a proper noun.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

God says that adulterers are to be executed in the Bible, what does that tell you about what He thinks now?

And why is it a supposed Christian does not capitalize "Bible"? Not only is it God's Word, but it is a title, and thus a proper noun.

I know very little about the Bible, but I think I remember that we were created in God's image. If we are so similar, does God not have feelings or thoughts?

Pastor Ezekiel · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

I know very little about the Bible, but I think I remember that we were created in God's image. If we are so similar, does God not have feelings or thoughts?

If you know very little about the Holy Bible, then why are you trying to engage us in debate on the subject?

By the way, the Holy Word of God can be had for free if you just visit your local Independant Baptist Church and ask the Pastor for one. Make sure you ask specifically for a KJV1611 Authorized Version Bible.

Also you can read one online at www.biblegateway.com. And for your assisted reading pleasure, Brother V has got a wonderful thread going HERE called "Bible in a Year."

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

If you know very little about the Holy Bible, then why are you trying to engage us in debate on the subject?

By the way, the Holy Word of God can be had for free if you just visit your local Independant Baptist Church and ask the Pastor for one. Make sure you ask specifically for a KJV1611 Authorized Version Bible.

Also you can read one online at www.biblegateway.com. And for your assisted reading pleasure, Brother V has got a wonderful thread going HERE called "Bible in a Year."

I'm not really trying to start a debate on the Bible, just saying that God has feelings and thoughts.

Rev. M. Rodimer · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

I know very little about the Bible, but I think I remember that we were created in God's image. If we are so similar, does God not have feelings or thoughts?

Who are you to tell us what the Bible says, when you have never bothered to read God's Word for yourself? What, your Pastor grandfather has never thought you should study God's Word? What is he, a Satanist? Or worse, a Unitarian?

You telling us what the Bible says is like me trying to tell you the recipes in "The Joy of Cooking" are all wrong, when I've never opened the book.

God took great pains to present Himself as He wishes us to understand Him in the 1500+ pages of the Bible. You have chosen instead to make up your own little god, one who believes what you believe, loves what you love, and hates what you hate.

That is idolatry. That is sin. You are Hellbound, and have turned your back on God.

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I'm not really trying to start a debate on the Bible, just saying that God has feelings and thoughts.

And you base this belief of yours upon what, exactly? Your vain imaginings of what God would be, if only God were created by YOU?