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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-10-2018, 09:50 AM

I hope I'm not being obtuse but why can't people with something to sell just sell it to people who want to buy it? Attractive knitwear made from hand spun wool. Very durable, original patterns, excessively warm & windproof.

Quite expensive but if you'd like one I'll make you one from exotic wools sourced by going to where it's grown, buying some, spinning it and designing a pattern suited to the wool tones available (I don't use dyes) which will fit you like a glove..other than the full length cable stitch Ulster..just send payment and you've got your jumper. Why do I need to be on a transnational gravy train to do that? Why does anyone?

Obviously garlic-oil hair-lotion (or whatever it is you smell as they loom pass by) will have limited market appeal outside Europe whether or not there's an import quota. And if you don't like my knitwear you don't have to buy it. Is there really any difference between garlic oil, heritage breed woollens or the Icelandic sloe mountain? What is it I'm missing?
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-11-2018, 03:45 AM

Problem over! President May just cancelled the Brexit vote, which gives a few more weeks to drum up support for... it's not clear. But we have a few more weeks of it until... another postponement? Please SOMEONE start a world war, this is unbearable!

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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-11-2018, 05:47 AM

Yes, Dr. Toole, it is Harsha Shah here. I am hoping that I am not offending you but I am being very concerned about the Brexit developments. Yes. My nation and my party are now working very hard to give the decision back to the nation. Now that we can see how detrimental the Brexit is going to be, we want to be deciding ourselves about our fate. Yes, I am becoming a strong and independent Scotswoman and working hard for the SNP. Yes, if we will be failing to rescue the UK wee are hoping to save an independent Scotland as a strong and independent member of the EU. Yes, I am also learning Gaelic to be able to speak our national language, yes, it is very hard but it is very beautiful.

Yes, Mrs. May is sad and beautiful, yes. She is like the elephant and the blind men. Yes, it is an old Chinese story. One of the men is touching the trunk and taking it for a hose and one is touching the feet and thinking that they are columns. Yes, Mrs. May is losing the elephant, the well-being of her people to a referendum that was being based on lies. She is only looking at the footprints and not seeing where the elephant is walking now. Yes, very sad. Yes. I am hoping that I am not offending you, Dr. Toole, yes.

Yes. Now it is the time to speak!


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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-12-2018, 09:33 PM

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Yes, Mrs. May is losing the elephant..
I'm sorry, dear, but would you care to clarify? I don't know about Scotland, but the only elephants we have in England are in the zoos, and as far as I know none of them are lost. (Not that Mrs May takes personal charge of not losing elephants. She has people to do that for her.)


We were all very disappointed to learn this evening that there will be no government shutdown in Britain, not even a temporary one, at least not for the time being. What this country needs is a leader with the courage to give us all a break.


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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-12-2018, 09:44 PM

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We were all very disappointed to learn this evening that there will be no government shutdown in Britain, not even a temporary one, at least not for the time being. What this country needs is a leader with the courage to give us all a break.
I was actually thinking, Sister, that one thing American and British politics have in common, is a similar approach to an urgent issue that needs to be solved soon. The British politicians seem to be dealing with the Brexit problem by delaying any actions needed to resolve it. For the American politicians, the favorite issue to be delayed ad infinitum is passing the annual budget. Temporary extensions of the previous year's budget are occasionally approved, and when that fails, both major parties take turns to be the one responsible for the shutdown.
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-13-2018, 09:49 AM

Sisters-in-Christ,

Don't fret your pretty little heads about all this! It's very difficult and you can get a man to explain it to you slowly if you feel distressed. It's like this.

In England, the Congress is delicately balanced after David Cameron won the election and then resigned and Theresa May won the leadership contest and called another election and basically lost except she bribed a few looney-tunes independents (think: Maine, Vermont, CT, except actually insane) to be on her team in exchange for $1B.

All perfectly legal and proper.

Skip forward 18 fun fun fun months and she just last night won a vote of confidence by her own (minority) party, winning 200 votes out of 317 out of 650. So that makes her the undisputed leader of the United Kingdom. It's similar to the Electoral College (ask your husbands) and it means if you're a Republican you don't necessarily need more votes to win.

So now Theresa May is ready to hold the Brexit vote again that she had cancelled last week because too many of her party were going to vote against it. This time, with her consolidated win of 200 votes, she's likely to get around 200 out of 650 in the full vote. After that, someone will probably table a full no confidence vote that includes those who aren't her closest 317 friends.

It's a terribly rigged system that unfairly penalizes conservatives just like in America. Anyway, the outcome is almost certainly going to be a general election between 2 pro-Brexit parties (soft vs hard) with no-one prepared to say it's all bullshit and call it off.

Skip forward 5 years and England will emerge from the chains of the EU, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar as a free country ready to buy high and sell low to the economic blocs of the world. As I said, don't worry your pretty little heads about any of this. Just imagine that in a few short years, you'll be able to buy cheap Chinese junk hand-made in English sweat shops and talk to Indians with a dodgy Northern English accent: "Ey up luv whut's up wi' thee, ow's about a nice cuppa tea aye petal." Exciting times!
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-15-2018, 09:33 AM

Another day, another breakthrough.

Theresa May just flew around to a few European capitals, like a drunk guy looking for someone to bump into, and managed to snag one of the bureaucratic freedom-haters who (out of context and speaking in his 3rd language) apparently called Theresa a "f*ggot-b*tch-wh*re-s*n-of-a-b*tch-m*ther-f*cker".

Later it turned out he was referring to the level of debate among UK members of Parliament and the actual word he used was "nebulous". Too late the damage has been done and Theresa can go back to the UK affronted and righteously indignant about the lack of respect from the entire continent of Europe.

What the UK needs most is respect for Theresa - who valiantly lost the majority in a national election that she unnecessarily called 4 years early to try and improve on the majority she already had, then said "Brexit is Brexit" for literally 18 months before pulling her Brexit vote the day before it was going to get rejected, then winning just 63% of her friends' support in a no-confidence vote the next day. Wears the respect? Yes it does, rather.
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-15-2018, 10:19 AM

Thank you for clarifying. There was one point of difference suggested by Harsha Shah that caught my attention.
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Comparing different countries was helpful and I noticed how she's trying to fit in with Scottish sensibilities. There was a time when that meant standing up to popes and cardinals under King James with a concerted effort from The Churches of England (Anglican) and Scotland (Presbyterian) and a solidly reliable Bible. Now they seem to let anyone in. There is one difference for Mrs May absent from North America even though discrimination against Christians is rampant in both places. I compared Nova Scotia [LEFT] with Scotland [RIGHT] and England. There's no picture for England.

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Nova Scotia has a government, Scotland has a government. In both cases there are other provinces or territories (with their own governments) and a National government providing things like the army, welfare and spies I suppose. Mrs May, however, is without this luxury. There are governments for Wales and Ontario, Scotland and Nova Scotia, Canadian and British legislatures but nothing for England. Is one foot of the elephant in effect an anarchy? Could this be why Mrs May is sad?

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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-16-2018, 08:26 AM

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Yes, Dr. Toole, it is Harsha Shah here. I am hoping that I am not offending you but I am being very concerned about the Brexit developments. Yes. My nation and my party are now working very hard to give the decision back to the nation. Now that we can see how detrimental the Brexit is going to be, we want to be deciding ourselves about our fate. Yes, I am becoming a strong and independent Scotswoman and working hard for the SNP. Yes, if we will be failing to rescue the UK wee are hoping to save an independent Scotland as a strong and independent member of the EU. Yes, I am also learning Gaelic to be able to speak our national language, yes, it is very hard but it is very beautiful.

Yes, Mrs. May is sad and beautiful, yes. She is like the elephant and the blind men. Yes, it is an old Chinese story. One of the men is touching the trunk and taking it for a hose and one is touching the feet and thinking that they are columns. Yes, Mrs. May is losing the elephant, the well-being of her people to a referendum that was being based on lies. She is only looking at the footprints and not seeing where the elephant is walking now. Yes, very sad. Yes. I am hoping that I am not offending you, Dr. Toole, yes.

Yes. Now it is the time to speak!


Yes.
Now I don't want to get off on a rant here Ms. Shah, but you're no more Scottish than Elizabeth Warren is injun - and when was the last time you submitted your recipe for haggis to a phony Scottish cook book? You need to stick with your papadums, samosas and chutneys, or God forbid, overpriced "Bombay" wraps and kati rolls. Of course the next question is how far do you have to go before you get accused of "appropriating" another "culture"?

While we're on the subject, how many obnoxious musical instruments, odd male and female clothing, disgusting food and eating habits, "cute" dancing and sexual practices, and other strange "customs" does a "culture" have to accumulate before they can demand their own "country"? I suppose they can then make a living on tourism - expecting normal people to travel there to marvel at how "quaint" they are and leave behind some money at a few memorabilia shops (with outrageous VAT taxes).

As to Scottish "independence", things are not looking good for them. Their budget deficits in their little socialist economy have been increasing, the revenue and output of their share of North Sea oil taxes have been decreasing, and their percentage of trade with the EU is miniscule compared to their trade with the UK. The Scottish seem to think they are some kind of modern industrial power because they have bagpipes, sheep, and kilts, and when they apply for membership in the EU it's going to be a shoe in.

As our good Sister Mitza pointed out here, "why can't people with something to sell just sell it to people who want to buy it"? It's because some useless meddlesome mercantilist unaccountable bureaucrat in Brussels says you can't without a "trade agreement" - and that's what most people understood Brexit was about. With all the riots in France recently, even the French are finally coming to their senses. The Scottish have a noble tradition of lighting some crosses to call the clan, and if they had any common sense they would be doing it now - Jesus would be pleased.


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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 12-20-2018, 08:01 PM

The latest news of Brexit is that Britain may at last have succeeded in cutting its capital city off from Europe (or "le congtingnon" as the French say - more like the incontinent, frankly) by the simple expedient of closing one of London's airports - Gatwick: the one that's nearer to the south coast than to London. The government is pretending that drones have been flying over the airport, but nobody in the know is fooled. All incoming foreigners are therefore being redirected to places like Manchester and Scotland, where they will doubtless freeze to death or be poisoned by the food, if they aren't beaten to a pulp by drunks first.

This is causing some trouble for British people who wanted to go skiing, but that just shows their very poor forward-planning skills. We're off to the chalet in Verbier early on Wednesday morning (the renovations on the Aspen house are taking longer than expected, which is disappointing) but my husband anticipated this problem and arranged to use the company jet from a local airport.

Matthew has asked me to apologize to any True Christians™ who have been inconvenienced by this, but says that you should have read the memo and flown into Heathrow.


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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-15-2019, 10:28 PM

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So now Theresa May is ready to hold the Brexit vote again that she had cancelled last week because too many of her party were going to vote against it. This time, with her consolidated win of 200 votes, she's likely to get around 200 out of 650 in the full vote. After that, someone will probably table a full no confidence vote that includes those who aren't her closest 317 friends.
Small update - today Mrs. May finally got round to re-doing her Brexit vote. The result was 432 to 202, so she actually got 2 more than we predicted last month. Congratulations!

Now after 18 months of discussion and hand-wringing, the result can move the Brexit process along to the next stage of indecision, chaos and right-wing indignation at anything short of walking into German machine gun fire with a cheeky British grin. Over the top lads, long way to Tipparary, let's all 'av a cuppa Rosie!
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-16-2019, 03:12 PM

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Small update - today Mrs. May finally got round to re-doing her Brexit vote. The result was 432 to 202, so she actually got 2 more than we predicted last month. Congratulations!
Thank you for that link, Dr Toole. My husband and I were at our London house on Monday and Tuesday nights, and I must say that at 1 minute 42 seconds, CBS News devoted approximately 1 minute 40 seconds more time to the result than we did.

It is over 73 years since Britain had what you might call a proper war against its continental neighbors - I don't count those half-hearted domestic conflicts in Ireland or the infamous Cod Wars, which the devious Icelandics won by cheating! How can Mrs May expect to achieve domination over Europe if she is not prepared to put soldiers on the ground and bombers in the sky? Anything worth fighting two World Wars over is worth fighting a third one over!


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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-16-2019, 09:23 PM

In further news from the Disunited Kingdom of Not-so-Great Britain and the Crazier (but Mostly Sober) Part of Ireland, Mrs May's government retains its Strong and Stable grip on Reality following a stunning 325 to 306 victory in a parliamentary vote. This one was an attempt by the communists to fire the government - honestly, the nerve of some people!

It occurs to me, Dr Toole, that you mentioned Mrs May having 317 friends, (though this number includes herself). I see from the voting results that of the 325 votes in her favor, 10 were from the bog-dwellers of Ulster who had been bribed to the tune of Ł1 billion (about $399.99 at the current rate of exchange) and one was from another mad Ulsterwoman who calls herself an "independent". This reveals that only 314 of Mrs May's friends voted for her.

But if we add in the votes of the tellers, whose votes are not counted (you really have to wonder why they even bother voting), the number rises to 316 - one short of the 317 members of Mrs May's party. Did Mrs May fail to vote for confidence in herself? If not, who is the traitor?


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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-17-2019, 02:20 AM

I'd hazard to guess there was a "pairing" arrangement, whereby 2 members who will cast opposing votes agree not to attend, e.g. in case of hospitalization or travel arrangements. (The Conservatives don't always hold up their end of the deal so this may not exist any more).

But yes, I also read the news about Theresa (and friends +/- 1) crushing the communist party. With that out of the way, the UK is ready to start fresh at square 1 again. In fact, they haven't threatened to leave square 1 for the past 2.5 years and I am a firm believer that this is the final state for the UK. Eternal extensions to article 50 until all the negative consequences of no deal happen anyway. Nobody will care if they stay in or stay out and it actually won't matter so why bother doing anything at all.
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-17-2019, 11:45 AM

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I'd hazard to guess there was a "pairing" arrangement...
I prefer to think that Mrs May failed to vote for herself, constrained by her natural modesty. Like her communist predecessor Clement Attlee, she has much to be modest about.


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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-17-2019, 12:27 PM

Would communists honour pairing traditions where Christendom was within their grasp?
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-19-2019, 05:26 AM

I think Brexit will last longer than the trump presidency since trumps presidency will last eight If he is reelected but then someone else will be reelected
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-20-2019, 12:29 AM

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Reelected? You mean one of our previous presidents will become president after Trump? Interesting.
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-20-2019, 01:32 AM

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I think Brexit will last longer than the trump presidency since trumps presidency will last eight If he is reelected but then someone else will be reelected
The poll is asking how long the Brexit dream will last. Thanks for offering your opinion on a different question tho. Also, Trump is capitalized while If is not, not to mention apostrophes and periods. Other than that - good post?
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Default Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency? - 01-20-2019, 12:32 PM

Has anyone else noticed the moaning Minnies trying to transmute dreams into nightmares? It's the socialist way. Not even their own dreams are safe. Or should I say especially vulnerable.

First they wanted to line up the Tsars and shoot them. Now whether that was the people's choice or whether Tsars deserve to be shot is immaterial. Next, in the exuberance of youth, socialists found all sorts of people to shoot. By their own assessment the dream must have been pretty close, yet never attained. What they got was an internal spy network.

Having ruined their own dreams it was time to start on everyone else's. So far they're doing a pretty good job in attempting. worldwide nightmares for anyone dreaming of freedom. Especially freedom in Christ.

Or is it just me?
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