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Default Can you tell me why God, if he exists, is Christian? - 04-15-2020, 10:02 AM

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So I was browsing a bit and read plenty of arguments that your site members make, such as Jesus is God and Christianity is the only correct path. It is definitely an interesting idea but I am just not convinced. Not to disrespect your beliefs in any way. I respect all religions. However, I don't believe I need to follow one.


So, a bit about me. My English name is Steven, originally from China. I live in Central Europe. Czech Republic to be precise but I do keep travelling. I was studying a Business major at Charles University in Prague but dropped out midway to complete another course in tourism and hospitality. My current plans are to open a restaurant somewhere in Europe after I graduate. It's a family business.


Oh, maybe it's not important but I am originally from Wuhan, the epicenter of the Coronavirus. It does make me feel guilty because it's a very bad situation in Europe. I would like to respectfully mention that I subscribe to a controversial theory that the Coronavirus was a bio-weapon designed by the CIA to ruin the Chinese economy, but somehow it backfired on the United States. This is not to instigate but a theory which is based on plenty of evidence that many Chinese (and Iranians) believe in now. You know the CIA isn't all that innocent, right? I do have to be very careful nowadays as I get a lot of threats as if I spread the Coronavirus. But, most people where I am quarantined at, are very nice. I believe in the goodness of humanity.



I like Americans very much. My favorite project partner is from the USA. I like Rambo III. The current avatar is a Grand Theft Auto character named Huang Lee. Maybe some of you love this game as well.



Oh. Let me just ask the main question for which I registered an account. "Why do you think Jesus is God?" You say that the Bible says so. But that's like saying Chairman Mao is the greatest leader alive because it says so in the Red Book (and I don't believe in that one bit).



Personally, I think there might be a God or spiritual force behind the running of world affairs. I used to visit the Shaolin temple in my village. But I just don't have faith in Jesus but I would love to know more about your beliefs.


Sorry if I didn't sound proper in my understanding of Christianity but I am willing to learn.


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Oh. Let me just ask the main question for which I registered an account. "Why do you think Jesus is God?" You say that the Bible says so. But that's like saying Chairman Mao is the greatest leader alive because it says so in the Red Book (and I don't believe in that one bit).
You have succumbed to the false equivalency fallacy. The Little Red Book was an absurd collection of claptrap propaganda, whereas The Bible is the True Word of God. Have you ever read it?


So my suggestion to you is the read The Bible. All the answers to your questions can be found there.


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PS. All of us in America know that Mao is dead. Perhaps your communist country has not informed you yet. Jesus lives eternally in my heart


58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; 59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. 60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bringk upon thee, until thou be destroyed.


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Default Re: Can you tell me why God, if he exists, is Christian? - 04-15-2020, 10:57 AM

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You have succumbed to the false equivalency fallacy. The Little Red Book was an absurd collection of claptrap propaganda, whereas The Bible is the True Word of God. Have you ever read it?


So my suggestion to you is the read The Bible. All the answers to your questions can be found there.


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False equivalency? That's an interesting idea, again.


You believe that whatever Jesus allegedly said is the revealed word of God. But your opponents will tell you that the Bible is nothing but a collection of oral history, myths, dreams, delusions, and some historical facts.


Some of the Bible verses contradict heliocentrism, which is a FACT that no one can deny today. The Earth does revolve around the Sun. It moves, yes!



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1 Chronicles 16:30


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yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved.

Well, it does contradict the facts now, doesn't it?


Ecclesiastes 1:5


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The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down,
and hasteth to his place where he arose.

Not to be rude but any schoolkid that writes such a statement in his Physics exam will receive a failing grade.


Also, 1 Samuel 2:8





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Pillars? That's a new one. Has any NASA spaceship seen those pillars?



Unless you wish to argue that these are all allegorical and hyperbolic statements (which all religions do). But I understand you all to be Bible literalists.




So, please enlighten me why should I believe in the statements of a book which do not appear very logical? I do understand it's very sacred to you, though.


I can give it a pass, yes! Believe, why????


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So I was browsing a bit and read plenty of arguments that your site members make, such as Jesus is God and Christianity is the only correct path. It is definitely an interesting idea but I am just not convinced.
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We must image a time shortly after creation. There was God and there was an Earth, animals, plants, etc. and there was Man. Man existed in two states. Adam, inside Eden, and such people as those in “The Land of Nod.” Adam was the first to be created and the Bible, not unreasonably, focuses on him. God appears regularly to Adam, but not to the people of “The Land of Nod”, etc. We can clearly see that Adam was God’s special interest.

Following some unfortunate events in Eden, Adam and Eve are recognized as “moral beings” in the way that God is “the” moral being, i.e. they know wrong from right. There is nothing to say that the People of the Land of Nod were “moral beings” – they seem to have been pagans – savages in need of God’s Word.

God expels Adam and Eve from Eden and removes their immortality. The line of mankind then needs to continue and, to this end, the offspring of Adam and Eve interbreed with the People of the Land of Nod. (Ge:4:16: And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Ge:4:17: And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.


Ge:6:1: And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,)

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Ge:4:26: And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

Here is the beginning of what will become “Christianity”.

But Man is imperfect. What then happens is “Chinese Whispering” (As you are Chinese, this is probably the same as “American Whispering” in your language.) Whereas the direct descendants of Adam are aware of God, those others are not, and have to be taught. Unfortunately, the message to the masses gets garbled and false gods and corrupt versions of Christianity are created. The direct descendants of Adam however, retain the truth.

We can see from the genealogies in the Bible that Jesus is (a) a direct descendant of Adam and (b) the Son of God and © Part of The Trinity and “Was with God before the World began” (See Joh:17:5: And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

2Tm:1:9: Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,)

This explains why Jesus is, in a very real sense, “God.”





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Jesus Re: Can you tell me why God, if he exists, is Christian? - 04-15-2020, 02:33 PM

Hiya Steve-O, Do you mind if I call you Steve-O? I knew a rational guy once with that name.


Consider this. If God were not Christian (perish the thought) what would he be? He could not be a vegetable, right? Certainly not a heeb as they do not believe in Heaven. Not an atheist, they do not believe in Himself. Nor an agnostic. Commies believe in the collective. Gooks believe in fat guys. Mooslimes believe in killing decent people. I could go on, but you seem like a smart man and continuing to be redundant is repetitive, don't you think?


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Man existed in two states. Adam, inside Eden, and such people as those in “The Land of Nod.” Adam was the first to be created and the Bible, not unreasonably, focuses on him. God appears regularly to Adam, but not to the people of “The Land of Nod”, etc. We can clearly see that Adam was God’s special interest.

OK, so the Israelites or whatever other nation you consider as God's "special interest" (Americans, perhaps), according to your own statement, they're the only ones bound by God's moral laws. Everyone else then shouldn't be bound by those laws.



It means everyone else (according yo you, as Chinese, I'm a Land of Nod descendant) can live as they please, ignoring the guidelines of the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.



It also means the ideas such as "sabbath," Ten Commandments, baptism, salvation, etc. have absolutely no relevance for me. That your God is a separate entity, and he only confines himself to your narrow lineage.


I like it. I really like this point of view. It's oddly refreshing.



Your God cannot be my God as he has absolutely no stake in my life.


What kind of God is this anyway? That he runs a highly selective program. It sounds more like a cult leader to me. Clearly, the Universal message of Christianity should be bogus for your statement to be valid. In fact, I will quote you on this again.



And, I really like the way of things. We are on the same page.


The Chinese, Japanese, Singaporeans, and Koreans can live a much better quality of life without being misguided by a so-called god which is nothing but a abstract Western concept like democracy and human rights.


There is only one small problem with this perfect picture. Again, I am quoting from your own statements.



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The line of mankind then needs to continue and, to this end, the offspring of Adam and Eve interbreed with the People of the Land of Nod.

This contradicts everything you said. So, there are no pure play Land of Nod descendants at the moment, not even the Chinese. All the Homo sapiens descended from Adam and Eve which is exactly what the Universalist Christians say.



Why do you want non-Adam descendants to follow your God's laws? It doesn't work that way. Here's a simple way for you to understand this.



When a Chinese company creates a duplicate iPhone version, Apple can't accuse him of piracy. Of course, they can and they do, but no Chinese courts will entertain Apple's arguments. It just doesn't fly.


Can we say that your God really doesn't fly outside of your congregation?



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Following some unfortunate events in Eden, Adam and Eve are recognized as “moral beings” in the way that God is “the” moral being, i.e. they know wrong from right. There is nothing to say that the People of the Land of Nod were “moral beings” – they seem to have been pagans – savages in need of God’s Word.

Why do you assume they need your God's Word when you outright made it very clear that it's not our God in the first place?


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Hiya Steve-O, Do you mind if I call you Steve-O? I knew a rational guy once with that name.


Consider this. If God were not Christian (perish the thought) what would he be? He could not be a vegetable, right? Certainly not a heeb as they do not believe in Heaven. Not an atheist, they do not believe in Himself. Nor an agnostic. Commies believe in the collective. Gooks believe in fat guys. Mooslimes believe in killing decent people. I could go on, but you seem like a smart man and continuing to be redundant is repetitive, don't you think?


Hello Mr. Hutchins


Of course, you can call me Steve-O. I like that very much. It sounds very cool.


The rest of your statements, well here's the news my American friend, you and I are basically saying the same thing. Everyone's God is kinda different from the rest. There is no one single God for all people.


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Hello Mr. Hutchins


Of course, you can call me Steve-O. I like that very much. It sounds very cool.


The rest of your statements, well here's the news my American friend, you and I are basically saying the same thing. Everyone's God is kinda different from the rest. There is no one single God for all people.
Steve-O, You missed the point entirely. Not surprising as you are obviously not a True Christian™.


There can only be one God. Just like there is only one Earth, one Heaven, one Sun. One Love. There are many heathens that want to make up a deity to provide support for a false way of looking at things and to justify life choices. Christians do not do that. We follow Gods Perfect Word® as He had written in the KJV Holy Bible.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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OK, so the Israelites or whatever other nation you consider as God's "special interest" (Americans, perhaps), according to your own statement, they're the only ones bound by God's moral laws. Everyone else then shouldn't be bound by those laws.
I don’t follow you Steve-O… God is perfect, His morals are absolute. We are all bound by these morals. It’s rather like saying that Coca Cola is only for Americans – the world loves Coca-Cola and recognizes it as the best.
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It means everyone else (according yo you, as Chinese, I'm a Land of Nod descendant) can live as they please, ignoring the guidelines of the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.
Well, you can if you want to have your soul murdered in excruciating pain as opposed to living in Paradise. But I, and many Christians like me, am here to help you.
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It also means the ideas such as "sabbath," Ten Commandments, baptism, salvation, etc. have absolutely no relevance for me.
You’re losing me again, Steve-O. As God created us all (I did mention that) you are as much His and I am – we have the same Father.

"Sabbath, Ten Commandments, baptism, salvation, etc. are relevant to you in the same way that, say, the price of oil is important to you – you cannot escape its effects. You cannot escape God’s suggested lifestyle for Mankind.

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That your God is a separate entity, and he only confines himself to your narrow lineage.
Steve-O… think about it… we were all created by God. We are the same people. How can you remain separated from the majority when we are bound by a Divinity?
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Your God cannot be my God as he has absolutely no stake in my life.
Like it or not, believe it or not, it matters not – He is there, involved in your life.
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What kind of God is this anyway?
Read the Bible, Steve-O.
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That he runs a highly selective program.
This is wrong – the evidence speaks against it. Did not Jesus associate with publicans and sinners?
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It sounds more like a cult leader to me.
A cult of love, kindness and plenty and – as a bonus – Life Ever After.
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And, I really like the way of things. We are on the same page.
If we are, we have different books…
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The Chinese, Japanese, Singaporeans, and Koreans can live a much better quality of life without being misguided by a so-called god which is nothing but a abstract Western concept like democracy and human rights.
As one of your prophets said: "What can be stated without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."

Steve-O, I don’t think it helps to make wild statements that you know are inaccurate.
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surely this means that you now agree with everything I have said so far – Well, at least you are open-minded.
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Again, I am quoting from your own statements.
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The line of mankind then needs to continue and, to this end, the offspring of Adam and Eve interbreed with the People of the Land of Nod
This contradicts everything you said. So, there are no pure play Land of Nod descendants at the moment, not even the Chinese. All the Homo sapiens descended from Adam and Eve which is exactly what the Universalist Christians say.
There’s no contradiction, Steve-O. Remember Noah?

Ge:10:1: Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
Ge:10:2: The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
Ge:10:3: And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
Ge:10:4: And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
Ge:10:5: By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

This is why we look different and speak differently.
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Following some unfortunate events in Eden, Adam and Eve are recognized as “moral beings” in the way that God is “the” moral being, i.e. they know wrong from right. There is nothing to say that the People of the Land of Nod were “moral beings” – they seem to have been pagans – savages in need of God’s Word.
Why do you assume they need your God's Word when you outright made it very clear that it's not our God in the first place?
You accuse me of doing things that I did not do. Never mind – As a Christian, Jesus has told me that there will be those who persecute me and spread false stories.

Steve-O, you’re a student of tourism and hospitality. Let’s say that the greatest figure in the tourism and hospitality world, Mr Donald Trump himself, gave you some brilliant advice – something that would transform the industry - would you keep it to yourself? Would you “bury the talents that your Lord has given you?” Read Matthew 25:14–30 and Luke 19:11–27.





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I am greatly impressed by your arguments, and appreciate you taking out the time to answer my queries. Must I add you probably have given me more attention than my businessman father.



While I may consider you a father figure, I am still not convinced. So, let us agree to disagree.


Sincerely yours
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Everyone's God is kinda different from the rest. There is no one single God for all people.
This is where you are going to run into trouble. At the end of your life you will face only one god. Just so you are properly prepared, his name is God. I'd suggest you not call him be some other name.

Now God acknowledged in the Ten Commandments there are other gods around us. But we know they are false gods. God commanded, "Thou shalt have no other gods before thee." The Bible was authored originally by God so we, and you, must take it seriously.

Best wishes in your journey to find the truth.


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I am greatly impressed by your arguments, and appreciate you taking out the time to answer my queries. Must I add you probably have given me more attention than my businessman father.



While I may consider you a father figure, I am still not convinced. So, let us agree to disagree.


Sincerely yours
Steve-O
See Steven, God is Great. Only the True Christian™ God provides you with unlimited Free Will. God loves it when people are wong. It weeds out the unbelievers from those that are truly True Christians™ and not fluffy bunny, CEO false Christians.
You still have time, maybe. Contact a Senior Pastor about become a True Christian™ All you need is to be committed.


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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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...Everyone's God is kinda different from the rest. There is no one single God for all people.
How do you (from a human's viewpoint) tell the difference between that and one single extremely psychotic God?


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How do you (from a human's viewpoint) tell the difference between that and one single extremely psychotic God?
Simple. You have Faith. Matthew 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive. Romans 10:17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I could go on but you get the gist of it. I have to note that the common Nigra has forsaken God in the tribal African bugaboo countries leading them to a massive punishment of yearly locust swarms. God is rightly punishing them. A psycho would indiscriminately punish anyone. In this godly country though, the True Christian ™️ has avoided any sort of punishment because God loves them. A true “psycho” as you put it would harm everyone indiscriminately.
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Hello Church members.... Not to disrespect your beliefs in any way. I respect all religions. However, I don't believe I need to follow one.
Hello and welcome! Thank you for respecting our religion--so few visitors do. Of course, nobody is forcing you to accept Jesus, but you will burn in Hell for all eternity if you don't.


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It is true that the CIA does unspeakably evil things when Democrats are in charge, such as accusing our great President Trump of being in bed with the Russians.

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Hello Church members of this site So I was browsing a bit and read plenty of arguments that your site members make, such as Jesus is God and Christianity is the only correct path. It is definitely an interesting idea but I am just not convinced. Not to disrespect your beliefs in any way. I respect all religions. However, I don't believe I need to follow one. So, a bit about me. My English name is Steven, originally from China. I live in Central Europe. Czech Republic to be precise but I do keep travelling. I was studying a Business major at Charles University in Prague but dropped out midway to complete another course in tourism and hospitality. My current plans are to open a restaurant somewhere in Europe after I graduate. It's a family business. Oh, maybe it's not important but I am originally from Wuhan, the epicenter of the Coronavirus. It does make me feel guilty because it's a very bad situation in Europe. I would like to respectfully mention that I subscribe to a controversial theory that the Coronavirus was a bio-weapon designed by the CIA to ruin the Chinese economy, but somehow it backfired on the United States. This is not to instigate but a theory which is based on plenty of evidence that many Chinese (and Iranians) believe in now. You know the CIA isn't all that innocent, right? B) I do have to be very careful nowadays as I get a lot of threats as if I spread the Coronavirus. But, most people where I am quarantined at, are very nice. I believe in the goodness of humanity. I like Americans very much. My favorite project partner is from the USA. I like Rambo III. The current avatar is a Grand Theft Auto character named Huang Lee. Maybe some of you love this game as well. Oh. Let me just ask the main question for which I registered an account. "Why do you think Jesus is God?" You say that the Bible says so. But that's like saying Chairman Mao is the greatest leader alive because it says so in the Red Book (and I don't believe in that one bit). Personally, I think there might be a God or spiritual force behind the running of world affairs. I used to visit the Shaolin temple in my village. But I just don't have faith in Jesus but I would love to know more about your beliefs.[IMG]https://www.landoverbaptist.net/images/icons/icon31.gif[/IMG] Sorry if I didn't sound proper in my understanding of Christianity but I am willing to learn. Live long and prosper Steven Wong
Hello; in your post you seemed to be suggesting that important organs under Presidential command seek to infect people with plagues for some reason.

Are you aware that God supports elected authority?

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I am still not convinced. So, let us agree to disagree.
I understand that this might be a difficult concept for a Chinese in whose country, if the government want you to believe something, they send you to a re-education camp or simply harvest your internal organs, but, in America, there is a saying "You may lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink." In broad terms, it means that I may instruct you or I may provide you will the necessary information but I cannot force you to believe the truth of what I am saying.

It has been pleasant meeting you Steve-O. I am somewhat saddened that the Afterlife will be an eternity of torture but I know that God has made some people for the sole purpose of stoking the fires of Hell, and you are probably among those people:

Ro:9:20: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Ro:9:21: Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Ro:9:22: What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:





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Mr Wong, we have written proof and testimony from eye witnesses that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God, who sent Him here to show us the way to salvation. God was not a Christian before Christ, but now that He has sent Jesus with the Word, God is the ultimate Christian and the true leader of the Christian faith. Popes, people riding magic horses and fat Chinamen sitting under a banyan tree are not of God, they are His avowed enemies. The proof is all around you. You must simply open your eyes. I suggest that reading God's word in the Holy Bible would enlighten you sufficiently if you would but read it.


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Mr Wong, we have written proof and testimony from eye witnesses that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God, who sent Him here to show us the way to salvation. God was not a Christian before Christ, but now that He has sent Jesus with the Word, God is the ultimate Christian and the true leader of the Christian faith. Popes, people riding magic horses and fat Chinamen sitting under a banyan tree are not of God, they are His avowed enemies. The proof is all around you. You must simply open your eyes. I suggest that reading God's word in the Holy Bible would enlighten you sufficiently if you would but read it.
Is it true to say that King Solomon was a Christian because he was anointed?
I Kings 1:38-40 Zadok the priest, and Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, and the Cherethites, and the Pelethites, went down, and caused Solomon to ride upon king David's mule, and brought him to Gihon. And Zadok the priest took an horn of oil out of the tabernacle, and anointed Solomon. And they blew the trumpet; and all the people said, God save king Solomon. And all the people came up after him, and the people piped with pipes, and rejoiced with great joy, so that the earth rent with the sound of them.
You will notice certain similarities here with the beginning of the Christian era, so-called, but which from God's perspective since He is timeless and unchanging must always have pertained. Jesus is descended from Solomon. Is Wong claiming Jesus came from some other "god" in which case evidence would need to be provided?
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