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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-17-2008, 05:15 AM

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I'm sure once Biblical Law rules America only couples married in Landover Baptist Church will be legal, and all other couples must hold marriages at LBC or be guilty of fornification.
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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-17-2008, 08:11 AM

Does the Bible give a specific age for a woman to marry her husband, or is it just Politicians that 'judge' these things - the very same politicians who grant the rights for fag marriages and retard rights?

When my father married my mother she was 11 years old, and that didn't stop her from having a wonderful and loving Christian life with my father (25 years her senior). They also had me - a fully formed healthy child.

If God was against younger women marrying then I'd have probably been born retarded or with limbs missing - as punishment to my parents -just like kids who are born with Goth / Wiccin / drug-addict / gypsy parents.

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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-17-2008, 08:35 AM

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Does the Bible give a specific age for a woman to marry her husband, or is it just Politicians that 'judge' these things - the very same politicians who grant the rights for fag marriages and retard rights?

In ancient times people have married very young but one must realize that the conditions of life were very different from now. People in those times only rarely reached old age so everything had to go a little bit faster or you didn't have any time to make childeren. Also, in those times your women were employed much faster than nowadays so their life experience was different from those who live at present day.

In modern times it's not done to have sex with young children as their way of live is just so different than let's say 500 or 1000 years ago. Luckily we have laws that gives us the opportunity to punish pedophiles although they should be castrated, they are nothing more than sexual predators.
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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-17-2008, 11:29 AM

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Does the Bible give a specific age for a woman to marry her husband, or is it just Politicians that 'judge' these things - the very same politicians who grant the rights for fag marriages and retard rights?
The minimum age cannot be higher than the onset of puberty, according to the following passage:

Ezek. 16:7-8: I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: [thy] breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou [wast] naked and bare. Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time [was] the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.


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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-17-2008, 12:34 PM

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The minimum age cannot be higher than the onset of puberty.
Then the problem is not one of age, but one of maturity. Perhaps our Government should re-look into how they classify pedophiles, as it is clear that age is not the issue, but the onset of puberty - when she has become a woman, and is ripe for marriage.
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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-17-2008, 04:54 PM

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At Landover, we have zero tolerance for pedophiles. We don't let fathers sell their daughters into marriage until the age of twelve, and they're usually much older than that when we arrange their marriages.

Why not just let your daughters decide for themselves after they are 18 if, when, and whom they wish to marry?


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Why not just let your daughters decide for themselves after they are 18 if, when, and whom they wish to marry?
Um ... maybe because we follow God's Word instead of feminazi liberal political correctness? Just a wild guess.


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In ancient times people have married very young but one must realize that the conditions of life were very different from now. People in those times only rarely reached old age so everything had to go a little bit faster or you didn't have any time to make childeren. Also, in those times your women were employed much faster than nowadays so their life experience was different from those who live at present day.

In modern times it's not done to have sex with young children as their way of live is just so different than let's say 500 or 1000 years ago. Luckily we have laws that gives us the opportunity to punish pedophiles although they should be castrated, they are nothing more than sexual predators.
So, Mr. Duck, first you say that sexual relations with young girls is perfectly normal, then you say that because we've adopted "modern", secular and anti-God lifestyles that it is no longer normal, and those who do what you JUST SAID IS NORMAL for humans should be CASTRATED?!

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The minimum age cannot be higher than the onset of puberty, according to the following passage:
And as corroborated by the Song of Songs:

Canticles 8:8 We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts: what shall we do for our sister in the day when she shall be spoken for?

As long as little girls don't have breasts, they won't be "spoken for".
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Where in the bible does it speak against pedophilia. since I have never found a single verse condemning it but it is strongly condemned amoung chrsitans, so they must have some bibilical basis for that. ? would anyone know ?
Have you heard about something called The Ten Commandments?

The 5th commandment clearly says: Honour thy father and thy mother!!!

I'm sure we can all agree that a child that fornicates with a pedophile pervert is not honoring its father and mother. Am I right?

Girls are even better protected by the Bible since anyone laying a hand on one of them must pay the father 50 shekels.

Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Deuteronomy 22:29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Of course 50 shekels ain't what 50 shekels used to be. In fact it's only 14.85 USD, but money isn't the important part: The point is that the Bible says it's wrong.


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In ancient times people have married very young but one must realize that the conditions of life were very different from now. People in those times only rarely reached old age so everything had to go a little bit faster or you didn't have any time to make childeren.
The AVERAGE life expectancy was lower, because most children died before the age of 5, which brought the AVERAGE life expectancy down. If you lived past the age of 5, you would live to be just as old as anyone does today. Or older, for example Noah was 950 years old at his death, (Genesis 9:29) and Methuselah died at 969 years.

Face it, as brother Jeb said, you're either with the Culture Of Life or the Culture Of Death. Being in the Culture Of Life means creating life, which means females should be pregnant non-stop from puberty to menopause.

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"We should change things because we changed things" - that's the vicious circle of liberalism. God outlined the way we are to live, and He did it 2000 years ago. 2000 years of liberalism have ruined the family-building-block-of-society and the moral-fabric-fiber and turned our daughters from productive-members-of-society into snot-nosed brats. It's time to turn back the clock.


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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-17-2008, 07:28 PM

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So, Mr. Duck, first you say that sexual relations with young girls is perfectly normal, then you say that because we've adopted "modern", secular and anti-God lifestyles that it is no longer normal, and those who do what you JUST SAID IS NORMAL for humans should be CASTRATED?!

What sort of sick monster are you?

If you had any brains you would have understand that throughout history things change, the average life expectancy of people in the middle ages was about 35 years so they had the tendency to marry younger. As the average life expectancy of today is around 75 years of age it only normal that people marry later then they did in the middle ages.
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If you had any brains you would have understand that throughout history things change, the average life expectancy of people in the middle ages was about 35 years so they had the tendency to marry younger. As the average life expectancy of today is around 75 years of age it only normal that people marry later then they did in the middle ages.
Ignoring what I've just taught you about averages, what's your opinion on Africans marrying 12-year-olds? Remember, the average life expectancy is low in Africa, probably as low or lower than during Roman times.


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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-19-2008, 07:59 PM

It dosn't have anything to do with low life expetancy. Besides, that whole ida has no supportin the bible, in fact it's opposite from what the bible teaches. pople bfor the flood lived hundreds of yars, than God dcleared that man will live no longer than 120 years. there is no evidence for people living only to 35 years, furthermore the bible says opposite. whn Isaac married rbekah, he was 40 and he was a virgin, yet he lived to be close to a hundred and so did she. In psalm david said that the "days of our lives are 70, and at most 80 years. As chrsitians, you can't impose scientific discoveries to oppose what the bible explicity says. ignore the bible and heed to man-made concepts is wrong.
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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-19-2008, 08:16 PM

In this modern perverted mess of an "education" sysem, most twelve year old girls can't even spell "pedophile" let alone understand the concepts.
As soon as they become with child and under the stewardship of a Godly (knows when to bitch-slap her) man, the better life gets.

Better to marry at 12 than be this:

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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-19-2008, 08:20 PM

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If you had any brains you would have understand that throughout history things change, the average life expectancy of people in the middle ages was about 35 years so they had the tendency to marry younger. As the average life expectancy of today is around 75 years of age it only normal that people marry later then they did in the middle ages.
So you're saying, as Rodimer pointed out, that what is normal in another time or culture (like today's Africans, as Mr. Harvey pointed out) is a sickness worthy of castration in Western society.

I think he's right, and you ARE a sick monster.

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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-20-2008, 10:58 PM

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It dosn't have anything to do with low life expetancy. Besides, that whole ida has no supportin the bible, in fact it's opposite from what the bible teaches. pople bfor the flood lived hundreds of yars, than God dcleared that man will live no longer than 120 years. there is no evidence for people living only to 35 years, furthermore the bible says opposite. whn Isaac married rbekah, he was 40 and he was a virgin, yet he lived to be close to a hundred and so did she. In psalm david said that the "days of our lives are 70, and at most 80 years. As chrsitians, you can't impose scientific discoveries to oppose what the bible explicity says. ignore the bible and heed to man-made concepts is wrong.
Nonsense. I've just explained to you, why pedophilia is wrong, wrong, wrong. In fact I have purchased a number of these stickers and I will be posting them on the local Catlick church doors.

That will teach those pedo padres some decency.

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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-23-2008, 10:26 PM

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I don't think you people understand, I said, "where" does the bible speak against pedophilia ? I couldn't care less about what people think about it, I want to know what the bible says about it.
The Bible does not mention pedophilia. There was no need to do so, for adultery, fornication, and lasciviousness are prohibited multiple times in the Bible. My favorites are Proverbs 6:32:

But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul....

And Galatians 5:19:

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness....

Click the links above if you want to see a long list of applicable verses. If you're asking whether pedophilia is somehow worse than other kinds of adultery and fornication, the answer is, not to God. Either one gets you doomed to exactly the same Hell. I don't see how we can make this point any clearer.



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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 07-23-2008, 11:02 PM

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I see what the misunderstanding is. Is marriage made official by God, or by the state? Seeing as Adam and Eve did not have any government to make their marriage official, I'll say that true marriage is only that which is legitimate in the eyes of God.

If true marriage were actually determined by government, that would make gay marriages legal in the eyes of God, which they are not.
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I hate to do this, but as a Christian Man I must correct you here, sister. To disobey the law is to commit the sin of disobedience, not fornification.

1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man.

Romans 13:1-2 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers.
Jeb, Jeb, Jeb, what are we to do with you? If civil authorities cannot determine whether marriages are legitimate, then there is no reason to support the so-called Defense of Marriage Act or Constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage, is there?

Of course, you can't really believe that, since, where gay marriage is the law of the land, 1 Peter 2:13 and Romans 13:1-2 clearly force you to recognize it as legitimate, lest you commit the sin of disobedience. Every ordinance means every ordinance, not just the ones that you like. In fact, if we extend the Romans 13 quote a few verses, we can clearly see that all laws are approved by God, and resistance to them is evil in the sight of the Lord:

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Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same...
So suck it up, render onto Caesar, and congratulate some gay newlyweds. It's what Jesus would want you to do.


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Default Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ? - 12-28-2013, 06:53 AM

Hello, Joh.
These passages from our Holy Bible can help you.

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites ... And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males ... And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones ... And Moses was wroth with the officers ... And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:1-18
When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it ... And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself. Deuteronomy 20:10-14
How shall we do for wives for them that remain, seeing we have sworn by the LORD that we will not give them of our daughters to wives? ... And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children. And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man. And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh. Judges 21:7-11
Go and lie in wait in the vineyards; And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh ... And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught. Judges 21:20-23
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5 1/2 years has to be close to the record for necroposting on this forum. Congrats?

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