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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 10-19-2008, 05:44 AM

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You people had better start reading the Bible a bit more often. It isn't the girl's choice. If the man liked it when he "went in unto her" and pays the father, she belongs to him. He has no obligation to marry her. If he didn't enjoy the experience, he can case her aside. The woman is then a whore and must be stoned for whoredom.

If she somehow escapes that fate, and the family fails to kill her as Honor dictates, she can never be married because she is not a virgin.
Eeesh. It never ceases to amaze me that the laws and ways of primitives from many years ago is considered an appropriate 'roadmap' and 'acceptable guidelines' for the people of today. Or any people at all, for that matter..



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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 10-19-2008, 09:15 AM

May I suggest you rape the rapist?
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Eeesh. It never ceases to amaze me that the laws and ways of primitives from many years ago is considered an appropriate 'roadmap' and 'acceptable guidelines' for the people of today. Or any people at all, for that matter..
Agreed. I can understand people living by those laws a few thousand years ago when they didn't know any better. The world has changed; I advise you people to change with it.
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Agreed. I can understand people living by those laws a few thousand years ago when they didn't know any better. The world has changed; I advise you people to change with it.
Good luck convincing these people, if I didn't know any better I'd say they were brought here from many, many years ago in a time machine. And then given instructions on how to use a computer.



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Good luck convincing these people, if I didn't know any better I'd say they were brought here from many, many years ago in a time machine. And then given instructions on how to use a computer.
So, Mrs. Van Hatred-for-Jesus, are you saying that morality changes minute by minute? How is it that what was moral back then is such a heinous violation of human rights now?


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Agreed. I can understand people living by those laws a few thousand years ago when they didn't know any better. The world has changed; I advise you people to change with it.
God Almighty gave us those laws. Are you suggesting that He didn't know better? How can that even be?


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A rapist probably won't be a christian, true or otherwise, so if your daughter is raped by, say, a muslim or wiccan or atheist, would you still insist she marry him?
How do you know that it isn't part of God's plan to save that mooselimb, wickedan, or God-denier and let that person produce new soldiers for Jesus?

1 Cor. 7:14: For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

Do you want to deny that person the chance for salvation? How can you be so cruel?


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 10-19-2008, 12:33 PM

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Agreed. I can understand people living by those laws a few thousand years ago when they didn't know any better. The world has changed; I advise you people to change with it.
Here's the problem with your theory, butterscotch: GOD NEVER CHANGES.

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So, Mrs. Van Hatred-for-Jesus, are you saying that morality changes minute by minute? How is it that what was moral back then is such a heinous violation of human rights now?
No, I'm saying that people are more civilized now that the barbarian tribes that inhabited the lands where the various parts of the bible were written, all those years ago. You might as well be following laws written by cavemen. Hell, THOSE are probably more civilized.



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No, I'm saying that people are more civilized now that the barbarian tribes that inhabited the lands where the various parts of the bible were written, all those years ago. You might as well be following laws written by cavemen. Hell, THOSE are probably more civilized.
I agree that the people around here can be a little harsh, but they do believe in Jesus, so they can't be all bad, right? I came here looking for help to quit heroin and to quit tricking. And I'm clean still, so they've helped.

As far as the other stuff, well they don't pay so well down at the rehab center, and a girls gotta eat right? But I'm trying and reading that King James Bible helps I guess. But it's so hard to understand sometimes.





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God Almighty gave us those laws. Are you suggesting that He didn't know better? How can that even be?
No, I'm saying that the world and society have changed since those laws were written.

Me, I don't agree with those laws at ANY time, but I can see them having a purpose three maybe four thousand years ago. Today? Nope. Not happening, folks.
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No, I'm saying that the world and society have changed since those laws were written.

Me, I don't agree with those laws at ANY time, but I can see them having a purpose three maybe four thousand years ago. Today? Nope. Not happening, folks.
You think God couldn't see the future?


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5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 10-19-2008, 10:22 PM

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You think God couldn't see the future?
I never said that.
I think God thinks we have enough common sense that we can figure out, for ourselves, that the world is changing and laws need to change with it.
He's right..... for most of the human race. Not so sure about you guys.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 10-20-2008, 01:29 AM

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I think God thinks we have enough common sense that we can figure out, for ourselves, that the world is changing and laws need to change with it.
Where is that in the Bible? Also, how do you reconcile it with the following verse?

Prov. 3:5: Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.


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I agree that the people around here can be a little harsh, but they do believe in Jesus, so they can't be all bad, right?
The Jesus of the bible is not some loving hippie who goes around throwing flowers on rifles. Very few people have actually *read* the NT, except for the bits they cherry-pick. Most xtians these days are what I like to call salad bar xtians, ie they pick and choose.

If they actually read the WHOLE THING, they would realize the Jesus of the bible is a far cry from the loving, wishy washy, Herculean 'hero' that most seem to think of.



Wake up and smell the 21st Century!!

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 10-20-2008, 05:19 AM

I'm curious about something. Say a man rapes a boy. Does he then have to marry the boy, or do they both have to be stoned as abominations?
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I'm curious about something. Say a man rapes a boy. Does he then have to marry the boy, or do they both have to be stoned as abominations?
A man marrying another man is complete and utter abomination to the eyes of the LORD. The raper should be stoned, and the boy put into the BASH program, to be de-demonized and brought back into this Church's loving arms, asking Baby Jesus for forgiveness on his weakness. There is always a chance of forgiveness, as promised by Christ Jesus, even for shameless harlots like yourself.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 10-20-2008, 06:10 AM

So the altarboy doesn't get any blame for stirring up the lust of the priest, for example?
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So the altarboy doesn't get any blame for stirring up the lust of the priest, for example?
Bad example, trollop. Papists are so committed to rebelling against God that it takes no special prodding to commit any sin. The only reason you don't hear of priests doing worse is because household pets can't launch lawsuits.


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So the altarboy doesn't get any blame for stirring up the lust of the priest, for example?
How dare you blame the innocent victims of preistal rape! Is that how you atheistic scum get your jollies?


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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