[Bright Eyes]

I have never come across a group of more ignorant people. Upon reading through this site I found threads that preached the "right" to hit women! What kind of scum do you have to be to hit a woman, then find some sick, twisted way to justify it?! You disgusting pieces of filth have no right calling yourselves human beings. You're pussies, no real man would ever hit a woman.
In addition to that, you make it seem like it's okay to treat gays like subhuman filth! Like somehow, they're below you. My best friend is gay, and he is the sweetest person I've ever met. He truely cares about people, I would go as far as to say he is one of the kindest people I have ever known. I would never let someone lay a hand on him just because they think their fairy tale book justifies it!
Beating people who are different than you is a crime. When told this, you try to call it a "misunderstanding between god's word and the law." Bullshit, the only one who doesn't understand is you. The law is the law and that's the end of it. I have no idea how you "people" can live with yourselves while promoting such disgusting filth!
I love my girlfriend with all my heart and I would never hurt her. If anyone even thought about laying a finger on her, I would beat the ever-loving piss out of them, and they would never be able to argue that it wasn't well deserved.

You can try to argue with me if you like. I will allow you to do your best to defend yourselves and appear as decent human beings. Quotations from the bible will not be accepted as a reasonable argument, I will only read posts that make a decent point or link to a reputable source.

Don't act as though your religion is fact. There is no way to prove what is written in the bible. Live and let live instead of trying to "save" everyone. Not ever Christian is good and not every Atheist is bad. The world is not black and white. Many people here claim that games and books that tell stories about magic and fairy tales are sinful. Well, a super hero on a cloud that can do anything sounds a lot like a fairy tale to me.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Thanks for stopping by to spew hatred. The Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed for your persecution.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

No one is going to argue with you, because this is NOT a debate forum. We are here to praise God and His Holy Word.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

I don't understand your gripe. No one here beats women! Ok? I'm sick of this stupid rumor flying everywhere in the internet. We discipline them, end of story. No beating going on.

Gay people are going to Hell because they are an abomination in God's eyes. If you have a problem with our position, take it up with God, not us. We are just mere followers of Him.

We are just humble Christian folk who are going to Heaven while unbelievers like you burn in the deepest pits of Hell.

[Bright Eyes]

Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

I don't understand your gripe. No one here beats women! Ok? I'm sick of this stupid rumor flying everywhere in the internet. We discipline them, end of story. No beating going on.

Gay people are going to Hell because they are an abomination in God's eyes. If you have a problem with our position, take it up with God, not us. We are just mere followers of Him.

We are just humble Christian folk who are going to Heaven while unbelievers like you burn in the deepest pits of Hell.

Discipline them? As in hit them, right? I just read through a rather long thread where a bunch of men talked about how it was okay to hit their wives if they did something wrong. Surely you don't think this is okay, do you? You wouldn't promote such a thing, would you?
There were quotes from the bible explaining how things like this are okay. I can dig up the thread and post a link if you like.

Well, at least I can live my life knowing I'm a good person. I'll be sure to remember that when I'm burning in your fairy tale world of fire in the ground.

[mandathesinner]

I highly agree with you my friend. From what i hear, it sounds like that once you are saved, you can do whatever you want. Wake up people, a Sin is a Sin. Deal with it, whether you like it or not.

I am not some mans property, if i were being beaten, i would leave that piece of shit quicker than you can say "What the hell". I have rights as a human. I agree with Bright Eyes, you people should indeed be ashamed of yourselves.

According to some scriptures, i've committed about half of the Sins. Looks like i'm going to hell, and i'm damn well proud of it. I will stand by my opinion as long as i exist.

If you disagree with us, then thats your opinion. I'm not going to derate you like you derate anyone who doesn't agree with you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It's sad that you can't let there be peace just because you don't like what you hear. What a shame.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Originally Posted by Bright Eyes

You can try to argue with me if you like. I will allow you to do your best to defend yourselves and appear as decent human beings.

Thank you for coming by OUR forum and giving us permission to talk to you. That's so magnanimous of you.

[Bright Eyes]

By the way, it's cute that you use the word "discipline". Like as if you were above them and were simply trying to do what is best for them. I don't know how sick and brainwashed you have to be to think this is okay, all I can say is that I feel awful for all you sick, twisted people.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Bright Eyes

Well, at least I can live my life knowing I'm a good person. I'll be sure to remember that when I'm burning in your fairy tale world of fire in the ground.

"Knowing you're a good person" is not how you get Saved, friend.

Read my sermon of the subject HERE, while I Pray for the Holy Spirit to chase the demons from your colon.

[Bright Eyes]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

"Knowing you're a good person" is not how you get Saved, friend.

Read my sermon of the subject HERE, while I Pray for the Holy Spirit to chase the demons from your colon.

But if I was a terrible person but a good christian, I would be saved, right? I'm just trying to understand the rules here...

Demons in my colon? My word, that makes me a sodimite! I'm going to hell as it is!

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Both you hellbound sinners need Jesus this very instant! No doubt your thinking is warped by Satan's lies. No wonder you're so much against discipline -- you're both unruly, rebellious, spiteful, rude, and obnoxious people. Sounds like you two could use a little discipline in your lives. Also a good KJV thump over the head.

If my wife acts up, I might give her a little spanking on the buttocks. I don't slam her face up against the wall, or beat her with a crowbar, okay? Let me guess: You also think that parents who spank their kids are just truly awful monsters too, right?

Get right with Jesus or get out!

[Bob4God]

Originally Posted by Bright Eyes

What kind of scum do you have to be to hit a woman, then find some sick, twisted way to justify it?!

no real man would ever hit a woman.

I would never let someone lay a hand on him just because they think their fairy tale book justifies it!

Beating people who are different than you is a crime.

I love my girlfriend with all my heart and I would never hurt her. If anyone even thought about laying a finger on her, I would beat the ever-loving piss out of them

Am I the only one who sees tremendous hypocrisy in this argument?

We're all real tired of being insulted because of the way we run our homes. It's typical of liberal democrats like you to try to invade our privacy and tell us how to live. You wouldn't see conservatives behaving that way!

What we do with our wives is our own business:

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. -Genesis 3:16

[Bright Eyes]

Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

Both you hellbound sinners need Jesus this very instant! No doubt your thinking is warped by Satan's lies. No wonder you're so much against discipline -- you're both unruly, rebellious, spiteful, rude, and obnoxious people. Sounds like you two could use a little discipline in your lives. Also a good KJV thump over the head.

If my wife acts up, I might give her a little spanking on the buttocks. I don't slam her face up against the wall, or beat her with a crowbar, okay? Let me guess: You also think that parents who spank their kids are just truly awful monsters too, right?

Get right with Jesus or get out!

You don't understand. I don't believe in Satan either. It's not because I'm a bad person, it's not because I want to defy god, it's just that there is a lot of facts that contradict what is written. I'm not telling you what to do because to be quite honest, I don't care. What I am doing is stating my opinion. You can take what you want from it, but I suggest you give it a lot of thought.
I don't care if someone believes in god or if they're a Christian. Infact, more power to them, it's good to have something to believe in. However, I will not stand for the arrogance and the violent crimes that you try to justify. It's cruel and immoral. I know that violence is immoral not because of any religion, but simply because I'm a decent human being. My heart says it's wrong to hurt people, so I don't. I, unlike some other people, don't have to be scared into being a good person.
It's sad when women stay with violent men. I feel awful that they don't have the strength to walk away. No one deserves to be hurt for any reason.

[mandathesinner]

Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

Both you hellbound sinners need Jesus this very instant! No doubt your thinking is warped by Satan's lies. No wonder you're so much against discipline -- you're both unruly, rebellious, spiteful, rude, and obnoxious people. Sounds like you two could use a little discipline in your lives. Also a good KJV thump over the head.

If my wife acts up, I might give her a little spanking on the buttocks. I don't slam her face up against the wall, or beat her with a crowbar, okay? Let me guess: You also think that parents who spank their kids are just truly awful monsters too, right?

Get right with Jesus or get out!

I do not need nor want Jesus "this very instant", and my thinking is not warped by Satan's lies. I do not believe such a figure exists. I'd also like to add that Jesus may have been a very wise man for a period of time, but that's all he ever was and will be.

[Bright Eyes]

Originally Posted by Bob4God

We're all real tired of being insulted because of the way we run our homes. It's typical of liberal democrats like you to try to invade our privacy and tell us how to live. You wouldn't see conservatives behaving that way!

I'm sick of being called a heathen because I refuse to hit women or hate gay people, but hey, that's life. Someone's always going to disagree with you.
I'm not here to tell you what to think or do. It's your life, do as you please with it. I'm just here to state my opinion. It's good to hear different ideas, it keeps you from becoming closed minded. At the very least give it some thought.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.

[Bright Eyes]

Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.

Thank you for the concern. I realize that your heart is in the right place and that your intention is to "save" people. But don't you think it would be wise to view the world from another set of eyes for a bit? Not everyone agrees on everything, and that's good, it makes the world a colorful place. I think life would be terribly boring if everyone agreed on everything!
Some people believe in god, others don't. I don't see a problem with this unless someone is getting hurt. Live and let live is a good philosophy to go by.
Let me ask something, do you really believe that all people who honestly do not believe in god (note that I said "do not believe" not "believe in but defy.") are morally corrupt people and never do a single good thing in their lives?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Originally Posted by Bright Eyes

Thank you for the concern. I realize that your heart is in the right place and that your intention is to "save" people. But don't you think it would be wise to view the world from another set of eyes for a bit? Not everyone agrees on everything, and that's good, it makes the world a colorful place. I think life would be terribly boring if everyone agreed on everything!

But see, I look through the Bible's eyes which is the Truth. Why would I want to look through another person's eyes when they suffer illusions? Why would I trade the Word of God© for the Word of Satan?

Some people believe in god, others don't. I don't see a problem with this unless someone is getting hurt. Live and let live is a good philosophy to go by.

Someone is going to get hurt. It happens when you die and are cast into eternal damnation for all eternity. This is what makes our mission so imperative!

Let me ask something, do you really believe that all people who honestly do not believe in god (note that I said "do not believe" not "believe in but defy.") are morally corrupt people and never do a single good thing in their lives?

It honestly doesn't matter what I think, it matters what God thinks, and that is what I think. While non-believers can do good works with good intent, that alone will not get them to Heaven.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

[Bright Eyes]

Well, I'm signing out and I won't be back. I just wanted to leave you with something to think about. Violence is never the way to solve things. No kid should have to grow up in a violent household and no woman should ever be with a man who doesn't respect her.
Love isn't disciplining your partner by physically harming her. Love is seeing the other person as someone you want to spend the rest of your life with and knowing that you would do anything for them. If you loved someone I don't think you would ever want to see them in pain, whether it be from a slap on the butt or a punch in the face.
Being in love is such a warm feeling, it's possibly the greatest thing in the world. At the very least, give it some thought. Try the idea out for a little while, maybe you'll like it.

[Bright Eyes]

Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

But see, I look through the Bible's eyes which is the Truth. Why would I want to look through another person's eyes when they suffer illusions? Why would I trade the Word of God© for the Word of Satan?



Someone is going to get hurt. It happens when you die and are cast into eternal damnation for all eternity. This is what makes our mission so imperative!



It honestly doesn't matter what I think, it matters what God thinks, and that is what I think. While non-believers can do good works with good intent, that alone will not get them to Heaven.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Please, I realize that your intentions are good, but maybe in this situation it is best to worry about yourself. If you believe Hell is a very real threat, then by all means, work to ensure that you will find a place in Heaven.
However, an arrogant, self righteous attitude will not get anyone on your side. If anything, it will push people away. Fear tactics ("if you don't obey you will be sent to hell!") only work on the weak minded.
I believe it is wrong to try to tell others what to believe. Dropping suggestions is fine, but I think you cross a line when you call people "heathens" for disagreeing with you.
It's good that you have devoted your life to something. I've devoted mine to music, poetry and acting. Devotion can give you a very fulfilled feeling, it really is wonderful. Your heart is in the right place (in most cases) but I think it is best to let others fend for themselves. If they are destined to be "saved" they will be.

[JennyD]

Originally Posted by Bright Eyes

I don't know how sick and brainwashed you have to be to think this is okay, all I can say is that I feel awful for all you sick, twisted people.

We're Christians, and we follow the Bible. Just like Barack Obama, and 78% of the American population.

Originally Posted by Bright Eyes

I'm sick of being called a heathen because I refuse to hit women or hate gay people, but hey, that's life. Someone's always going to disagree with you.

No, we call you a heathen because you're a non-Christian.

Because you are a non-Christian, you refuse to take charge of your household, and you promote homosexuality, incest, and pedophilia.