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Thumbs down TROPHY BUYERS: how liberals play at utopia without actually solving any problems - 01-29-2019, 07:05 PM

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Step 1: Imagine success. Because you have earned it, you would have a room filled with trophies, honorary degrees, mementos of great deeds, gifts from respected people who respect you, and so on.

Step 2: Imagine utopia. There would be no terrorists, spies, organized crime, or attempts to suppress wages. There would be no anti-assimilation ideology, nobody would be using identity politics to pit immigrants and natives against each other. Therefore, there would be no need for borders. Utopia-world has no borders.

In utopia there would be no NIMBYs, corrupt contractors, bureaucratic friction, overpaid middlemen, shortsighted dine-and-dash taxpayers, no environmental blockaders and general project-hostage takers. When you get on a train there would no criminals, smelly people, vandalism, nor a conductor who is on drugs. There would be nothing stopping us from building shining new bullet-trains from coast to coast, therefore we would have shining bullet trains from coast to coast.



There would be no criminals, no crazies, no emergencies beyond kittens getting stuck up trees. Police would not carry guns, they would only carry stepladders. There would be no "stop and frisk", just "stop and ask which tree the kittens are in".

Back to step one: Imagine an alternate way to get that trophy room: instead of bothering with the great deeds, why not just go to a trophy store and buy some trophies? Why not use photoshop to fake a picture of you holding important meetings with world leaders?

When you understand why that makes no sense, you'll understand why it makes no sense to just jump straight to policy that only works in utopia. We don't live in utopia, so it doesn't make sense to have no border, no real police, and no attempt to figure out why American government can't fix a freakin' pothole unless the pothole is in Afghanistan...



Yeaaaah, right. That's how much liberals were just saying Trump's Wall would cost.

Great public works, unlocked doors and disarmed police are the trophy that nations get as a reward for having a strong sense of national unity and shared purpose. The exact sort of things that identity politics - the anti-solidarity movement - is fighting against.

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Default Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords! - 01-29-2019, 08:52 PM

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There would be nothing stopping us from building shining new bullet-trains from coast to coast, therefore we would have shining bullet trains from coast to coast.


That's a terrifying map, Brother Jeb. Not only do those trains cross the soon-to-be-completed Wall to the south, they also stray not just into the Chinese city of Vancouver but also right up into the hideous, Frenchified zones in the north-east.


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But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Default Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords! - 01-29-2019, 10:13 PM

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That's a terrifying map, Brother Jeb.
Don't worry, it will get nimbied at the first gopher-hole.
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Default Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords! - 01-29-2019, 10:55 PM

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Don't worry, it will get nimbied at the first gopher-hole.
It'll certainly get nimbied by the beaver-loving perverts at the Canadian border. As for Mexico, the Wall will block it. I don't know why I was so fearful: I really need to Get A Grip and pay more attention to my own signature here.


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Default Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords! - 02-07-2020, 04:02 PM

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In utopia there would be no NIMBYs, corrupt contractors, bureaucratic friction, overpaid middlemen, shortsighted dine-and-dash taxpayers, no environmental blockaders and general project-hostage takers....the trophy that nations get as a reward for having a strong sense of national unity and shared purpose.
Or just for being Chinese. Here's China building a hospital in a week:


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Default Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords! - 04-02-2020, 10:52 AM

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Here's China building a hospital in a week
Other countries have now done the same, but in their case it’s more like they build a hospital in 4 months and a week. 1 week of building, 4 months of slowly realizing that, contrary to standard operating procedure with all other serious problems, you can’t get rid of coronavirus by distracting people with identity politics for a couple of news cycles.

There’s some nice quoteable paragraphs here:

https://bleedingheartlibertarians.co...ral-extortion/

I would have quoted them but I can’t because iPads are garbage.

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While ideal theory asks, “What institutions would we have if everyone were perfectly good and just?,” non-ideal theory asks, “What institutions should we have in the real world, where many people are evil, where people will take advantage of the rules, and where people’s willingness to comply is not a given?”.


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