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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-06-2014, 03:48 AM

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God bless you, Brother Billy Bob. You are a busy man with many obligations, but took time to save a Lutheran child from eternity in hell.

If we all monitor the halls of Methodist and St. Marys hospitals, we will find these cases where patients die before anyone can reverse our conversions.
While Freehold citizens are making plans for next year, I would like to put in a plug here--we need volunteers for the Freehold Death Bed Conversion Project.

It continues to be a wonderful way to save souls for Jesus. We have converted dozens of seriously injured and elderly people just before they died.

This volunteer work is really quite easy and is very rewarding. Volunteers spend a few hours each week walking the halls of hospitals monitoring the
"STAT" calls on the public address system. When hospital personnel are preoccupied elsewhere, the volunteer moves in and extracts a committment to Jesus from the strickened. Just a nod before death does the trick.

My office is coordinating volunteers so do call if you can help.

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Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-06-2014, 06:34 PM

I know you've welcomed me to Freehold, Mr. Mayor, but unfortunately, others are not convinced I am worthy of your fair city. Still, I had some ideas that you may want to consider.

Although we know salvation is free (Acts 8:20), we also know that not much in the hospital comes without charge. Would there be a way of linking the Death Bed Conversion somehow to the patient's bill, so that Landover Baptist or Freehold itself benefits with a kind of "final tithe?" Surely JesOS can be programmed to collect from the patient's account, ensuring that Pastor Zeke is not forced to eat scraps from someone's table or that improvements to the nicely landscaped homes of Freehold are delayed.

I hope this outreach for Jesus can also prove to be a source of love offerings for the LORD. GLORY!

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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-06-2014, 08:14 PM

My wife didn't get a death bed conversion. I figured the missionaries had better ways to spend there time. A woman's soul can't be worth that much too The Lord.


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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-06-2014, 08:15 PM

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I know you've welcomed me to Freehold, Mr. Mayor, but unfortunately, others are not convinced I am worthy of your fair city. Still, I had some ideas that you may want to consider.

Although we know salvation is free (Acts 8:20), we also know that not much in the hospital comes without charge. Would there be a way of linking the Death Bed Conversion somehow to the patient's bill, so that Landover Baptist or Freehold itself benefits with a kind of "final tithe?" Surely JesOS can be programmed to collect from the patient's account, ensuring that Pastor Zeke is not forced to eat scraps from someone's table or that improvements to the nicely landscaped homes of Freehold are delayed.

I hope this outreach for Jesus can also prove to be a source of love offerings for the LORD. GLORY!

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Thank you for that excellent suggestion, Mrs. Lamb.

One would think the survivors would appreciate it that Landover Baptish Church had snatched their loved one at the last minute from the clutches of Satan. Unfortunately, they often are angry instead of greatful. Honestly, I don't understand it.

In reality, the obligation to adequately compensate Pastor Zeke falls on us. We need to give all we can so this Godly man continues to pave the way to heaven for each of us.


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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-07-2014, 06:06 PM

While deathbed conversions are miracles to behold, how can one be sure that the conversion is nothing but a cheap and quick and relativly easy way to enter heaven after a lifetime of corrupt and immoral behaviour?

I am sure some, (perhaps a lot), of conversions are genuine, but how can we know?
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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-07-2014, 06:18 PM

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For some time, I've worried we are not obtaining as many death bed conversions as we should.

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I'm not too sure of this. The thing is, the more True Christians die, the fewer there are of us to spread the Lord's Word.

I would encourage de-conversion, so that atheists die: fewer of them + atheists are shown to have a higher death rate.

This way, we get live, fit Christians who continue to tithe, instead of those who are slowly dropping off this mortal coil and whose care is a drain on Church finances and Pastors' time.

The downside is a lack of legacies. However, I do believe that bequests can be sold to them as a "covering all eventualities" gift.

As an aside, I often feel that dying Christians are not really True Christians: if they were devout, surely they could cure themselves by prayer.





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While deathbed conversions are miracles to behold, how can one be sure that the conversion is nothing but a cheap and quick and relativly easy way to enter heaven after a lifetime of corrupt and immoral behaviour?

I am sure some, (perhaps a lot), of conversions are genuine, but how can we know?
Mr. Frayn--I'm neither a theologian nor a psychologist, but I have guy-in- the street guidelines.

People approaching death are often quite scared. This works to our advantage. If we ramp up their state of fright by hammering home the terror of hell that awaits them, they are ready for a sincere acceptance of Jesus.

In my opinion, this has saved nearly all the people we have pressured into conversion.


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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-12-2014, 01:59 AM

This is a troubling issue... not because of the conversion part, that is easily within the ability of any TRUE CHRISTIAN, but because o the "afterwards"

Either you stay by their bedside or they're sure to start blaspheming away on the first occasion and fall uppon satan's thorns..

I personally found that the better option was to choke them with their own pillow before satan could stretch his evil claws and steal that soul that rightfully belongs to JESUS.

Often, when the family is solely composed of hardened TRUE CHRISTIANS we can leave that task to the family, but only then.

Luke 8:14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection

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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-13-2014, 02:00 AM

An idea as glorious as this must be inspired by the Holy Spirit. I'm wondering if we should limit ourselves to just hospitals though. There are lots of dying people elsewhere. For example, people in a burning buildings, or people on the side of the road who were in a serious accident, or people who are under a terrorist attack. Wealthy Christian Republicans will be sent actual fireman, ambulances, and police of course since they're already saved. Although all others (eg. poor people) should be sent emergency preachers instead. The preachers could yell "You think those flames are bad? Just imagine those flames forever!" or "You think the pain you're in after a car accident hurts? That's nothing compared to Hell!" while standing safely outside the range of the fire. It wouldn't be good if the preacher got hurt, then he couldn't save anymore souls!

This will save our economy valuable resources which can be used in other areas (eg. the military) which will save more American lives later on down the road, but more importantly it will save souls. Why do emergency response teams spend thousands of dollars trying to save one finite life that will probably be dead in a few decades anyway when they can do something valuable like saving their eternal soul?

Although I'm a bit concerned about their response to terrorists and criminals. We wouldn't want the preachers to be killed in action, and we wouldn't want to let the terrorists get away either. I'm thinking there could be specially trained "SWAT Preachers" designed to score conversions in the midst of terrorists attacks, while ensuring they're protected against the fire themselves using ballistic armor, assault rifles, gas masks, etc.
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Although I'm a bit concerned about their response to terrorists and criminals. We wouldn't want the preachers to be killed in action, and we wouldn't want to let the terrorists get away either. I'm thinking there could be specially trained "SWAT Preachers" designed to score conversions in the midst of terrorists attacks, while ensuring they're protected against the fire themselves using ballistic armor, assault rifles, gas masks, etc.
Specially trained in weapons to finish of the heathens, any sign that they are criminals or arabs (a pantone can be used by less experienced Pastors) and BANG, straight to hell.

For we want to save the few that deserve, not the many that are not.

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It is always a joyous occasion.
You are so correct, Brother Billy Bob. Just yesterday we shouted to a gasping old atheist he must give his heart to Jesus. He whispered, OK, there was a gasp and he was dead.

We had it on tape and played it for the hippy son who arrived just a little too late. It was a joy to hear the hippy's expletive--he could not do a thing about it.

However, we need more volunteers to monitor rooms where the critically ill are being cared for. We need to be ready for move when a patient starts to fade and there are no relatives there to stop us.

How pleased Jesus must be with this initiative.


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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 02-09-2019, 04:42 PM

To Freehold citizens, this is my periodic call for volunteers to patrol hospital corridors watching for pending deaths of non believers. Our program to convert those just before death has snatched so many from Satan's grasp we must renew our energy to keep it going.

While these are commonly called "death bed conversions" they are actually just conversions. The famous atheist, Christopher Hitchens, converted just before he died by a program like ours.

The program interviews hospital chaplains to identify those who do not want chaplain services. Then when death approaches, our volunteers watch for times relatives are not present, slip into the room and demand the patient accept Jesus. Volunteers carry audio recording equipment so relatives cannot later claim it did not happen.

Those able to volunteer can call City Hall for further information.


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 02-10-2019, 01:53 PM

So often people think they're an exception to God's rule when they're not. And although everyone is condemned for the same reason..sin..not everyone's circumstances are the same. Certain hospitals cater to specific belief systems, many of which are blasphemous. There are consequences passed down which need to be identified and made known to the expiring souls by pointing out details and explaining the remedy in Christ.
Matthew 27:24-25 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
It's important to be quite direct. Time is limited and blasphemy against The Holy Ghost needs to be avoided the consequences of which also need explaining. Not all groups have this to contend with.
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Whole sects are indoctrinated to call men "father" even unmarried men in one particular cult. Those parasites will hovering to leech what they can from the terminally ill and dying. In many cases they'll walk right in and try to stop you from sharing The Good News but even here Jesus can prevail with last hours exorcism, an option that can be offered. Let's face it, this could be their only opportunity to be free!
Luke 14:25-26 There went great multitudes with [Jesus] and he turned, and said unto them, If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Children may be present. Satan will be on-the-case trying to get categorical denials of Christ's message by any means possible. Parents and other family members are there for the grief porn and they are not our concern. Such an important witness takes priority over soporific fluff and only by speaking out can His words be made known.

What is the policy of Landover concerning family members? Should they be permitted visits at so critical a spiritual moment?
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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 10-07-2019, 01:34 AM

This is a topic about which I know a thing or two. I have been a hospice volunteer for years for this very reason. Being a volunteer for a hospice organization gives me unquestioned access to the terminally ill. In providing respite for at-home caregivers who understandably need time away from their failing loved ones from time to time, the Lord has provided me with ample one-on-one time with those whose eternal salvation may not necessarily be nailed down yet. I can't even count how many times those I've visited in hospice care converted to accepting Jesus into their hearts moments before they expired and the tears of joy their caregivers have shed upon their return home after learning that their loved one now rests easy in Jesus' warm embrace.
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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 10-07-2019, 02:08 PM

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This is a topic about which I know a thing or two. I have been a hospice volunteer for years for this very reason. ..... I can't even count how many times those I've visited in hospice care converted to accepting Jesus into their hearts moments before they expired and the tears of joy their caregivers have shed upon their return home after learning that their loved one now rests easy in Jesus' warm embrace.
I'm glad you have been able to convert a few sinners in their last hours. While your efforts may appear significant, and they were for the few who benefited, our Freehold Initiative is much larger. We operate in the several giant hospitals in the Des Moines metro. They have thousands of patients and many die every day.

Our research and training programs learned that hospital staff are required to fill out more paperwork every year. This means they are at computer terminals. Our Freehold Initiative team can slip secretly into rooms more easily than ever to convert those almost dead.

I would encourage you to continue making conversions in your hospice work. Perhaps one day you can become a True Christian™ and join our team in Freehold.


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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 10-08-2019, 02:22 AM

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I'm glad you have been able to convert a few sinners in their last hours. While your efforts may appear significant, and they were for the few who benefited, our Freehold Initiative is much larger. We operate in the several giant hospitals in the Des Moines metro. They have thousands of patients and many die every day.

Our research and training programs learned that hospital staff are required to fill out more paperwork every year. This means they are at computer terminals. Our Freehold Initiative team can slip secretly into rooms more easily than ever to convert those almost dead.

I would encourage you to continue making conversions in your hospice work. Perhaps one day you can become a True Christian™ and join our team in Freehold.
Mr. Hold, my efforts have been miniscule in their scope compared with those of the Freehold Initiative and my heart is lifted by the importance given this issue by an organization of this stature. As relatively few (admittedly only sixteen to date) as I have been able to convert moments before their last breath, it was far more significant to each of those individuals than any of the other accomplishments in their lives. I would welcome the opportunity to observe your team in action and to learn about - possibly even share some of my own - "best practices" when a conversion is perhaps the only real - albeit final - achievement of someone's previously empty life.

I've found that a bedside reading of John 5: 25-29 has been very instrumental in getting the attention of even those who were previously resistant to allowing Jesus into their hearts.


25 "Uerily, verily I say vnto you, The houre is comming, & now is, when the dead shall heare the voice of the Sonne of God: and they that heare, shall liue."
2626 "For as the Father hath life in himselfe: so hath he giuen to the Sonne to haue life in himselfe:"
2727 "And hath giuen him authority to execute iudgement also, because he is the Sonne of man."
2828 "Marueile not at this: for the houre is comming, in the which all that are in the graues shall heare his voice,"
2929 "And shall come foorth, they that haue done good, vnto the resurrection of life, and they that haue done euill, vnto the resurrection of damnation."
It is typically only moments later that the converted first lay eyes on Jesus Christ Himself as they are Received by Him at that moment in Paradise.
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Luke 14:25-26 There went great multitudes with [Jesus] and he turned, and said unto them, If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

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Satan will be on-the-case trying to get categorical denials of Christ's message by any means possible.
Recently I've noticed that family members who attend the bedside of the grievously ill are likely to mention how much they love one another. Jesus is explicit that family members must be hated, all family members except Husbands that is.

Satan wants to get the patient assigned to him for everlasting torture. Do you think all the love stuff is his handiwork to prevent patients from being disciples of Christ? If so, it's a pretty low stunt and in direct opposition to what Jesus explained.

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Recently I've noticed that family members who attend the bedside of the grievously ill are likely to mention how much they love one another. Jesus is explicit that family members must be hated, all family members except Husbands that is.

Satan wants to get the patient assigned to him for everlasting torture. Do you think all the love stuff is his handiwork to prevent patients from being disciples of Christ? If so, it's a pretty low stunt and in direct opposition to what Jesus explained.

Your comment would be appreciated.
Young lady, you are right on point! Glory to God! This is why volunteering for providing "respite" to family members is so vital. This gives them an opportunity to spend some needed time away from the bedside that they might find ways to relax and regroup while the inevitable expiration of their loved one draws near. It's during these times of lovingly providing that respite that I have had so many opportunities to take the hand of the bedridden sinner who has this final opportunity to accept Jesus Christ and to beseech them to follow Him and ONLY Him into the next phase of their existence. This process cannot be approached with kid gloves as many of those who are facing their imminent last breath simply refuse to choose the right path that is right smack in front of them. Whatever the outcome, when those who I so lovingly granted respite return and realize that their beloved no longer suffers in this realm, their tears of joy have always been genuine. But I'm always honest with them about the decision their loved one has just made as they should know whether they are mourning the loss of someone who chose Jesus when they could, or someone who did not. May the Holy Spirit continue to guide my every thought and action in Jesus' name.
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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 10-12-2019, 03:03 AM

The term "comatose" comes up in our work with the terminally ill. Specifically, the question is, "When the patient is not responding and we ask him to accept Jesus as his Lord and Savior, do we take that as a yes or no?"

Others may disagree, but my rule is that the patient has the right of refusal. In fact, he/she has the duty to refuse. Thus, when he/she does not refuse the overture to accept Jesus, we have another soul saved.

Cranky family members may complain when we tell them their loved one has left their clan of atheists, but we make the rules.


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