[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Originally Posted by Faith_Machine

Fatwhoreofravenstock, I'm still waiting for your shack-up baby daddy to introduce himself and cite the specific Bible chapters and verses which prove that we are not good Christians.

The gauntlet has been thrown down, young missy. As previously stated, I am ready, willing, and able to change my beliefs and practices if your sperm donor can show me that I am not living in accord with the Bible's simple, easy-to-follow life instructions.

It's time to either put up or shut up. If your Lothario fails to meet this challenge, I will accept that as your confirmation that you are wrong and we are right.

Mr. Premarital Sex has exactly 48 hours to make his introductory post and use the Bible to show me how wrong I am.

The clock is ticking, dear.

He doesn't need to. I already pointed out that you are following a BS version of the bible written in the 1600s, as opposed to the original. If you're not following the original bible, you are not a proper Christian.

I threw down many gauntlets awhile ago. None have ever been taken up. So don't talk to me about gauntlets.

I already told you, I'm not the one wanting to convert people. I'm just asking you not to tell people (this means anyone, not just me) that Goths are ALL this and that, without providing evidence to show them this is the case.

You know what a sperm donor is, right? Sorry, I did not go to a sperm bank. I met my child's father in person, and we are a betrothed couple, married in the eyes of this "God" every "Christian" denomination believes in.

Your clock can keep ticking. Your bible is not the correct one. Any scripture used against you, you will simply say is not from your purposely mistranslated incorrect version. And I don't really care what religion you follow. I care about the Goth scene. Please read two paragraphs up.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by fatwhoreofravensrock

I already pointed out that you are following a BS version of the bible written in the 1600s, as opposed to the original. If you're not following the original bible, you are not a proper Christian.

How offensive can you get? A witch telling True Christians™ which Bible to follow? Seriously?

Proof that the KJV is the ONLY True Word of God can be found HERE.

Originally Posted by fatwhoreofravensrock

You know what a sperm donor is, right? Sorry, I did not go to a sperm bank. I met my child's father in person, and we are a betrothed couple, married in the eyes of this "God" every "Christian" denomination believes in.

You are nothing but a whore. Go ahead and toss around your 3 dollar words, it doesn't make you less of a whore. "Betrothed" is not married! The fact that you spread your legs for some demon and bore his spawn BEFORE being married in the sight of God, is proof positive that you know nothing of God's commandments. You spit in Christ's loving face with each breath you take. Enjoy hell.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

How offensive can you get? A witch telling True Christians™ which Bible to follow? Seriously?

Proof that the KJV is the ONLY True Word of God can be found HERE.

You are nothing but a whore. Go ahead and toss around your 3 dollar words, it doesn't make you less of a whore. "Betrothed" is not married! The fact that you spread your legs for some demon and bore his spawn BEFORE being married in the sight of God, is proof positive that you know nothing of God's commandments. You spit in Christ's loving face with each breath you take. Enjoy hell.

The bible was inspired by the book of Enoch. The bible was written by man. The King Jame version is mistranslated.

" that chasapah in Latin in Veneficium which can be a poisoner"

"In the original Hebrew manuscript, the author used the word m'khashepah to describe the person who should be killed. The word means a woman who uses spoken spells to harm others - e.g. causing their death or loss of property. Clearly "evil sorceress" or "woman who does evil magic" would be the most accurate phrases in today's English usage for this verse."

Modern Pagans and Wiccans poison no one. Nor is a poisoner the same thing as a witch. And modern Pagans and Wiccans usually believe in harming no one.

In Medieval Europe, the church considered a betrothal binding and a betrothed couple to be married. Once you were betrothed, you were married, you could not back out of it without paying a penalty, and you would not get dispensation to marry another. You were considered married, especially were the betrothal consummated, and any child born within that betrothal was considered legitimate, so long as the church did not find (and usually they had to be bribed for this) a reason to annul it. The church believed that the Christian god considered a betrothed couple married.

Not to mention that a couple could be hand-fasted for a year and a day before an official marriage, and any child born within that year and a day was considered legitimate, even were the couple to not marry after a year and a day.

A hand-fasting was technically the same thing as a betrothal ceremony. All that was needed for either was for a couple to pledge their troth before witnesses.

And my boyfriend is human. He is not a demon.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

And by the way, none of this really has any baring on the Goth scene. It is not relevant to the reason I am here. Nor do your beliefs about sex before marriage have any baring on my religion. So why do you keep arguing about it anyway? Even if I were a member of the cult of Bacchus, your religion would still have no baring on my own, and would not be relevant to what the Goth scene is either.

[Alphonse Alban]

Originally Posted by fatwhoreofravensrock

It is not relevant to the reason I am here.

We know why you are here. Jesus made you come here and you could not resist His power over you.

GLORY!

[Irinka the repentant jewess]

Originally Posted by fatwhoreofravensrock

And by the way, none of this really has any baring on the Goth scene. It is not relevant to the reason I am here. Nor do your beliefs about sex before marriage have any baring on my religion. So why do you keep arguing about it anyway? Even if I were a member of the cult of Bacchus, your religion would still have no baring on my own, and would not be relevant to what the Goth scene is either.

That's bearing, dear. Baring means "making bare", or "naked", and that word definitely has no bearing on this conversation. But if this argument has no bearing on the Goth scene (your primary concern, as I understand), then, I guess, there is no longer any threat of any imminent danger. The Goths are now safe. Your mission is accomplished. Is there anything else you wish to see happen as a result of your visit to these forums?

[Roberta]

Do you think this "thing" is attractive? She is an affront to humanity!

Why should people who look like this be allowed to keep polluting the human race?

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Originally Posted by Alphonse Alban

We know why you are here. Jesus made you come here and you could not resist His power over you.

GLORY!

Jesus is a man who died thousands of years ago. He cannot make anyone do anything.

Originally Posted by Irinka the repentant jewess

That's bearing, dear. Baring means "making bare", or "naked", and that word definitely has no bearing on this conversation. But if this argument has no bearing on the Goth scene (your primary concern, as I understand), then, I guess, there is no longer any threat of any imminent danger. The Goths are now safe. Your mission is accomplished. Is there anything else you wish to see happen as a result of your visit to these forums?

Really? How exactly does what my betrothed and I do, in the privacy of our own homes, effect the Goth scene? How exactly does it effect your website? Have you taken Godhatesgoths down? Have you posted a retraction of your unfounded accusations that Goths are child molesters, child abusers, that every person in the Goth scene is a drug addicts, that Goths deserve to be attacked or murdered because they are not following your religion, etc.,?

Originally Posted by Roberta

Do you think this "thing" is attractive? She is an affront to humanity!

Why should people who look like this be allowed to keep polluting the human race?

First of all, PVC, latex, etc., are a bigger hit with the Industrial/Cyber and Rave fans/scenes. Most Goths wear traditional Goth/Punk inspired clothing or romantigoth clothing. PVC, latex, etc., aren't Romantigoth. While a person can be involved in both scenes, the ones who are usually wear certain things for one scene, and other things for the other. And not everyone who is into both is into PVC or latex either. One picture is not an accurate representation of the entire scene. Nor does the way she's dressed mean that she is having sex outside of marriage with multiple people, that she is a drug abuser, child abuser, child molester, etc.,

Second of all, the only thing really showing is her stomach, her back, face, and arms. Breast and buttocks are covered, as are her nether parts. While it is irrelevant to your unfounded accusations, what exactly is the problem here? I don't that material attractive, but so what?

[Alphonse Alban]

Originally Posted by fatwhoreofravensrock

Jesus is a man who died thousands of years ago. He cannot make anyone do anything.

Don't be silly. Jesus is God and it was Him that brought you here. Of course you have to deny it to keep face, but we both know that what I'm saying is true. By being here you are a living proof that He can make people do things.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by fatwhoreofravensrock

.....A hand-fasting was technically the same thing as a betrothal ceremony. All that was needed for either was for a couple to pledge their troth before witnesses.

And my boyfriend is human. He is not a demon.

No, young 'lady', a hand fisting is not like being married. It is especially foul knowing you and your 'boyfriend' feel the need to have people watch you 'do it'.

[Irinka the repentant jewess]

Originally Posted by fatwhoreofravensrock

Jesus is a man who died thousands of years ago. He cannot make anyone do anything.



Really? How exactly does what my betrothed and I do, in the privacy of our own homes, effect the Goth scene? How exactly does it effect your website? Have you taken Godhatesgoths down? Have you posted a retraction of your unfounded accusations that Goths are child molesters, child abusers, that every person in the Goth scene is a drug addicts, that Goths deserve to be attacked or murdered because they are not following your religion, etc.,?



First of all, PVC, latex, etc., are a bigger hit with the Industrial/Cyber and Rave fans/scenes. Most Goths wear traditional Goth/Punk inspired clothing or romantigoth clothing. PVC, latex, etc., aren't Romantigoth. While a person can be involved in both scenes, the ones who are usually wear certain things for one scene, and other things for the other. And not everyone who is into both is into PVC or latex either. One picture is not an accurate representation of the entire scene. Nor does the way she's dressed mean that she is having sex outside of marriage with multiple people, that she is a drug abuser, child abuser, child molester, etc.,

Second of all, the only thing really showing is her stomach, her back, face, and arms. Breast and buttocks are covered, as are her nether parts. While it is irrelevant to your unfounded accusations, what exactly is the problem here? I don't that material attractive, but so what?

Listen, sweetheart, I have addressed you with several posts, in nothing but a friendly tone, and had asked and suggested various things for you to consider. You never offered any response to any of my concerns or suggestions, and you keep bringing up things that were never a part of my dialogue with you, like murder and rape, and now, your sexual relations with your betrothed, on which I never commented in the first place. As I said before - this is not a fair conversation: I am asking about X and you are answering about Y or Z, and with some rude side comments to boot.

Please, consider looking at a larger picture than your little Goth world (I know it seems enormous from the inside). Think of things in terms of eternal value (again, I realize, it might seem nebulous from a 23-year-old's point of view). I do not condone rape, murder or abuse of people on any grounds (including differences in religious beliefs or race or fashion). It is also against the law.

However, you cannot outlaw sin. You cannot outlaw evil. Taking down a website and shutting up the voices of those who disagree with you will not solve the problems you are attempting to address. Changing people's hearts is the only thing that will make a difference, for evil, my sweet, resides in the heart. Jeremiah 17:9. This is why I follow my God (not blindly, but quite consciously) and this is why I suggest that you (and everyone in the world) do the same. Not so they can think like I do, but do that their hearts might be changed and evil erased from them and replaced with goodness that comes only from above (James 1:17).

[MitzaLizalor]

Alphonse Alban
Re: You wanted an introduction

Don't be silly. Jesus is God and it was Him that brought you here. Of course you have to deny it to keep face, but we both know that what I'm saying is true. By being here you are a living proof that He can make people do things.

Where is she getting her information about Jesus, Mr Alban?

[Faith_Machine]

Originally Posted by fatwhoreofravensrock

He doesn't need to.

In other words, you're admitting that you never had a leg to stand on, and we are right.

I already told you, I'm not the one wanting to convert people.

Yet here you are, trying to convert us.

[little flip]

Originally Posted by fatwhoreofravensrock

Hello,
My name is Morella Merryman. I am a 20 some year old Caucasian woman with a 4 (almost 5) year old (healthy) son and a wonderful (a Christian Metalhead) betrothed/boyfriend. I was born in May and am a Taurus. I live in Baltimore Maryland near Loch Raven, originally known as Raven's Rock. I am a practicing Pagan witch who worships the goddess Callisto, among many other gods and goddesses, as the high priestess of the Coven of the Black Shadows. I have my own business designing clothing and jewelry, and also babysit for a living, and am an attendee of Club Orpheus in Baltimore, Batz Over Baltimore at the Depot, Burnt Offerings at Sidebar, the now defunct Shampoo Nightclub in Philadelphia, and Midnight in D.C. I also have a 4 year old black cat named Mia. I am also a Goth, which means I am a fan of Goth Rock bands like Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Rosetta Stone, Intra-venus, Dead Souls Rising, Bauhaus, 45 Grave, The Spiritual Bats, etc., I like classic Gothic horror/mystery/romance films and literature, historical fiction/drama, vampire/werewolf/zombie/witch and fantasy films. I took Fine Arts in High School and Fashion Design (though the school called it something else because they were not actually supposed to teach Fashion Design) and will be attending MICU next year. I am not here to be converted, or to convert, but simply to point out the incorrect information spread on this website about Goths. Why? Because I do not like to see atrocities, violence, and murder against anyone committed when they have done nothing wrong and misinformation can and has led to this. I am 5'1, weigh 105 lbs, am very pretty with very clear skin. I do not do drugs, I have no piercings or tattoos, I do not drink blood, I do not worship Satan, and I do not cut myself. Is there anything else you would like to know?

Good to meet ya. Anything else you want to share about yourself?

[ThatGuyWhoHasMagma]

Shout out to WilliamsJenningBrians or whatever your name was, this conversation was rational the whole time. The bible doesn't take into account that modern witchcraft is purely candles and mediocre sacrifices. I honestly can't believe you people, though. Sell your daughter? Have her raped? I was raised, and still am being, in a christian household(more or less) and that right there defies all the moral laws the modern Christians have established. Holy crap! I'm turning into a christian! Noooo! Uh... Anyone up for some Russian Roulette?

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyWhoHasMagma

Shout out to WilliamsJenningBrians or whatever your name was, this conversation was rational the whole time. The bible doesn't take into account that modern witchcraft is purely candles and mediocre sacrifices. I honestly can't believe you people, though. Sell your daughter? Have her raped? I was raised, and still am being, in a christian household(more or less) and that right there defies all the moral laws the modern Christians have established. Holy crap! I'm turning into a christian! Noooo! Uh... Anyone up for some Russian Roulette?

Welcome, would you mind terribly, creating your own thread in the introduction forum, and be sure to read the stickys. Plus your views are invalid and wrong, your family was not Christian if they cherry picked The Bible, and you remain un-Christian if you continue to do so

YiC
DAM

[ThatGuyWhoHasMagma]

To the last guy, Jehovah's witnesses. Duh.

[ThatGuyWhoHasMagma]

Why am I "Unshaved Trash?" I don't have a beard or anything like that.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyWhoHasMagma

To the last guy, Jehovah's witnesses. Duh.

They aren't True Christian either, though I suspect you figured that out, as you have been banned

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Dec Abdiel Mordecai

They aren't True Christian either, though I suspect you figured that out, as you have been banned

They're not Christian at all! Have you any idea how they brainwash their children?