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Default The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 10-24-2008, 06:55 PM

Brethren and Sistren

It has come to my attention that not only are many of our members unable to correctly recite all of The Ten Commandments, but those who can remember even a few, invariably get the sequence wrong.

Let me set the record straight: The commandments do not come in a random sequence. With the exception of the 7th Commandment -- an obvious anomaly -- the Commandments appear in order of severity. The harsher the punishment, the closer to the top.

I hope this handy color chart will make the intrinsic beauty of God's word more comprehensible to all:

CommandmentAlert LevelPunishment
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.SevereGenocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven imageSevereGenocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (See above.)
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain;HighCapital punishment (Leviticus 24:16, Deuteronomy 18:20, Mark 3:28-29)
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.HighCapital punishment (Exodus 31:14, Exodus 31:15, Exodus 35:2 Numbers 15:32)
5. Honour thy father and thy mother:HighCapital punishment (Exodus 21:15, Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9)
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.HighCapital punishment (Leviticus 20:10)
6. Thou shalt not kill.ElevatedCapital punishment in some cases (For killing Cain, yes, for killing Abel, no: Genesis 4:15).
8. Thou shalt not steal.GuardedExcessive fines or slavery: (Exodus 22:1-3). Only in rare cases such as stealing slaves, capital punishment (Exodus 21:16). Thieves caught in the night are to be executed (Exodus 22:1-3)
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.LowDespisement and scorn (Proverbs 12:8)
10. Thou shalt not covet . . .LowDespisement and scorn (Romans 7:7-8)


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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 10-24-2008, 07:01 PM

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Let me set the record straight: The commandments do not come in a random sequence. With the exception of the 7th Commandment -- an obvious anomaly -- the Commandments appear in order of severity. The harsher the punishment, the closer to the top.
Thanks for that, Brother. I knew that God listed the commandments in that order for a reason, but I never put the two and two together to figure out what that reason was.

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I've just printed that off as a handy reference to keep in my Purse.

Who needs Secular Laws when it's all so simple?



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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 10-24-2008, 07:42 PM

Thank you for posting that comprehensive chart, Pastor. One needs all the reminders one can get of God's holy law.


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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 10-24-2008, 08:50 PM

Why thank you Pastor Prune, you have satisfied a long felt want. Now, seeing the Commandment and their punishments, do you notice what is missing? Imprisonment!

The only mention of imprisonment in the Old Testament is when Ataxerxes issues a Godly decree that all shall obey Ezra.

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Ezr:7:21: And I, even I Artaxerxes the king, do make a decree to all the treasurers which are beyond the river, that whatsoever Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, shall require of you, it be done speedily,
Ezr:7:26: And whosoever will not do the law of thy God, and the law of the king, let judgment be executed speedily upon him, whether it be unto death, or to banishment, or to confiscation of goods, or to imprisonment.
But this is a one-off job, suited to the circumstances.

In the New Testament, we see that Saul speaks of imprisonment, but clearly this is Ungodly:
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Ac:22:19: And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee:
Ac:22:20: And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.
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Heb:11:36: And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:
Note - all imprisonment was done by heathens. It is therefore clear that prisons are not a Godly thing.

You can see that the cost of imprisonment in the USA in 2001 was $46Billion, by 2006, it was $60Billion. There are tax-dollars to be saved here, and these savings mean less tax for us all, at least $200 for every man woman and child! Thus a family of 8 would get $1,600 each and every year!

I hear lieberals saying prison doesn’t work – prison is inhuman – prisons are universities of crime! Well, I suggest we take them at their word. The Godly punishments are the just ones.

So we are looking at the death penalty for adultery upwards (plus abominations, wayward sons, and witches, etc.) fines or death for thieves and despising and scorn for the rest.

Now despising and scorn doesn’t seem too bad, but I would say that this means not being able to take part in business of any sort, having no access to public services, welfare or health treatment, and no home; quite effective and entirely cost-free.





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Let me set the record straight: The commandments do not come in a random sequence. With the exception of the 7th Commandment -- an obvious anomaly -- the Commandments appear in order of severity. The harsher the punishment, the closer to the top.
No disrespect of your position but you are not God. Where in the Bible does it say that the order of the commandments designates their severity of punishment and where in the bible does it say that God mistakenly ordered the commandments? Calling the order an anomaly is a bold statement, even by you. Too much pride?
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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 10-26-2008, 06:53 PM

Friend, Brother Prune hardly means that as an insult to God. He is simply pointing it out so that we may contemplate why it is so. Clearly, God has some reason he wants us to see in the 7th Commandment being out of place.

As to the severity, all of the punishments are from scripture so they are completely Biblically founded and thus what God says on the issue.
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No disrespect of your position but you are not God. Where in the Bible does it say that the order of the commandments designates their severity of punishment and where in the bible does it say that God mistakenly ordered the commandments? Calling the order an anomaly is a bold statement, even by you. Too much pride?
Question: "Where in the Bible does it say that the order of the commandments designates their severity of punishment"

Nowhere does it say so in so many words. If there was such a verse in the King James Holy Bible (1611) I would of course have posted my little sermon in the "Favorite Bible Verses"-forum instead. Am I right?

However, God's plan should be clear to see for all. Consider the draconian punishment for breaking the First Commandment:

Deuteronomy 13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
Deuteronomy 13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
Deuteronomy 13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
Deuteronomy 13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

. . . men, women, children and even the animals are to be killed for following other gods. Praise the Lord. Compare this with the Tenth Commandment: Thou shalt not covet - for which the Bible does not specify any particular punishment.

Of course this is not completely true, since Our Lord Jesus has added that coveting the wife of a fellow True Christian™ falls under the 7th Commandment, all of which goes to reiterate what I said, i.e. that the 7th Commandment is an obvious anomaly:


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. . . men, women, children and even the animals are to be killed for following other gods.
Animals don't follow any gods, at least not that we can observe. Unless, of course, you're including the rabbits in "Watership Down," but they were acually metaphors for different aspects of human societies.


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Animals don't follow any gods, at least not that we can observe. Unless, of course, you're including the rabbits in "Watership Down," but they were acually metaphors for different aspects of human societies.
What you can observe and what the Almighty can observe are just a little different, no? Besides, even if the animals themselves don't follow any gods, it's well known that animals can be vectors for demons.


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Exclamation Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 12-10-2009, 10:52 PM

I first googled this post when I heard Prune Danish's 'handy colour chart' read aloud on a comedy podcast. I wrongly thought this list to be a joke as I believed that a modern, Western, 'civilised' society could not spawn such ignorance and hate.

I am a twenty year old girl from Australia and underwent thirteen years of catholic schooling so I am well aware of the bible and its teachings, and therefore also aware of people who manipulate its meaning through literal interpretation to foster their fear and hatred of this world and its many moral dilemmas. This website, and indeed faith itself, has no right to promote genocide and rape as Christian principles! Not to mention the 'obvious anomaly' of the six sins preceeding 'Thou shalt not kill' with sanctified killing.

Prune Danish is willing to accept any punishments mentioned in the bible as literal fact, and yet is happy to cut and change the order to suit his own interpretation. I wonder if you are all so trigger happy with homosexuals, who are not mentioned in the bible? The fact that there is a smilie next to where I am writing that depicts three muslims terrorists being blown up suggests to me that this site probably supports sensible, politically correct ideals. Or at least, a middle ages Christian view of sensible, politically correct ideals.

The people who follow the bible to the letter need to realise that it is a collection of stories, fables if you will, that teach us how to be good and loving members of mankind. Treat others as you would like to be treated is the only message worth quoting from the bible and it covers all situations. 'Let's kill and rape everyone who doesn't agree with us,' is not a mature, reasonable or even sane mantra.

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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 12-15-2009, 09:32 PM

Why would a God wish to keep girls alive so they could be raped?
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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 01-06-2010, 12:34 AM

All i have read is the first page, and it is all i needed to read.

How can anyone take someone like 'Old Iron Crotch' who is so racist that she has ' Now that Obama has won the election there will be big black cock for every white woman!!!', in what way is this a modern day, even ACCEPTABLE view to have? what is this southern America during 50's?

The first comment was posted over a year ago now, and states that anyone who doesn't follow god will Succumb to genocide. This includes animals, what the piffle did the animals ever do, pretty sure they don't go around spouting shit on the internet.

Words cannot describe how narrow minded you are to be able to say these things. Your clearly pissed off about your wife cheating on you that you swapped 6 and 7 around you prick.

Good luck committing genocide on me and my agnostic friends
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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 12-01-2009, 01:42 PM

I have been a christian all of my life and i disagreed with most of this "handy color chart."
And i dont mean ANY disrespect, but who is going to inforce GENOCIDE as a punishment?!?!? if that were a reality whole civilizations would be destroyed, is that the perfect will of God?.....No, my understanding is that God wants us to have free will, and choose for ourselves what we believe.
As for changing the order of the 10 commandments to what suits you, and then preaching that it should be so, unless I've missunderstood your point. sounds twisted.

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This site was brought to my attention by comedy genius Ricky Gervais who openly ridiculed it in his latest audiobook discussing Law and Order. Ricky Gervais has always been open about his "faith" and makes it clear that he is an athiest, but this was easy pickings for him as he read aloud to thousands of people the content of this post and listed the 10 commandments, their alert level and punishments.
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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 12-01-2009, 01:51 PM

Friend, we don't know who Ricky Gervais is, but we have passed your information to our Joo lawyers.

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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 12-01-2009, 02:12 PM

I believe theft is punishable by secular law as well as Biblical law.


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10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 09-07-2010, 12:00 PM

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Friend, we don't know who Ricky Gervais is, but we have passed your information to our Joo lawyers.

He can expect a knock on his door soon!
You don't know who Ricky Gervais is? He's the guy who's got a radio show that 250 million people listen to and download. And what the other post said was true, he does ridicule this entire subject, quoting directly from the forum and the original list.
However, I feel I should bring you back to the real world and let you know that you won't get anywhere with your "Joo lawyers" (by the way, what is a Joo?) as he hasn't done anything illegal.
Anybody can quote things they read on the internet and then give their opinion, it's public domain.
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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 09-07-2010, 01:08 PM

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You don't know who Ricky Gervais is?
No I don't. Wasn't that clear the last time?

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He's the guy who's got a radio show that 250 million people listen to and download. And what the other post said was true, he does ridicule this entire subject, quoting directly from the forum and the original list.
Ah, a God-mocker. Well, that would explain why I don't really know her wouldn't it?

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However, I feel I should bring you back to the real world and let you know that you won't get anywhere with your "Joo lawyers" (by the way, what is a Joo?)
You don't know what a Joo is? Friend, are you an anti-semitist? Don't like them Kikes, do you? Well, let me tell you that racism is frowned upon on this forum. You better edit your post.

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I take it you are a lawyer then?


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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 12-01-2009, 03:27 PM

I'm updating the table with scripture. So far I've got the capital punishment ones covered:

CommandmentAlert LevelPunishment
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.SevereGenocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven imageSevereGenocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (See above.)
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain;HighCapital punishment
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.HighCapital punishment (Exodus 31:14, Exodus 31:15 , Exodus 35:2)
5. Honour thy father and thy mother:HighCapital punishment (Exodus 21:15, Exodus 21:17 , Leviticus 20:9)
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.HighCapital punishment (Leviticus 20:10)
6. Thou shalt not kill.ElevatedCapital punishment in some cases (For killing Cain, Yes, for killing Abel, no: Genesis 4:15.)
8. Thou shalt not steal.GuardedExcessive fines or slavery: (Exodus 22:1-3). Only in rare cases such as stealing slaves, capital punishment: (Exodus 21:16)
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.LowDespisement and scorn
10. Thou shalt not covet . . .LowDespisement and scorn


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Default Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments - 12-01-2009, 03:31 PM

Excellent idea Brother, before anyone thinks we are making this up.


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