[savinggraceless]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire

1Co:11:3: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

In words you can understand, God is to man as man is to woman. Thus a husband must behave towards a wife as God would to towards a man. And how does God advise a man on the matter of chastisement?


And thus a man to his wife.

God said so.

may I remind you that there is ONE mediator? Man is NOT the mediator between Christ and women.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Are you sure you're not *trying* to be difficult? Right in your quote is the evidence to the direct contrary of what you just said. Man is the mediator between the woman and God (Jesus), whereas Jesus is the mediator between a man and God the Father. It's right in the very verse you just quoted--I don't know how much more clear I can get, and the KJV1611 is about as clear as any book has ever been (obviously!)

[savinggraceless]

The quoting of I Corinthians 11:3 was an accident.

Let me be more specific. I see a difference in man being the head of the woman and man being the Mediator.

Let me give you the full context of that passage:
I Corinthians 11:3-7
3But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. 6 For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered. 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9 Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man. 10 For this reason the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.

A symbol of authority not man doing the mediating to Christ for her. Notice it is because of the angels NOT because of man.

[iamwus]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire

1Co:11:3: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

In words you can understand, God is to man as man is to woman. Thus a husband must behave towards a wife as God would to towards a man. And how does God advise a man on the matter of chastisement?

Heb:12:6: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb:12:7: If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb:12:8: But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Heb:12:9: Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Heb:12:10: For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Heb:12:11: Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

And thus a man to his wife.

God said so.

Beating your mate is not in those passages seams to me that man was being used loosely not man as you and i but man as in mankind, but whatever.This is a ludicrous reason to beat your wives/girlfriends if you were to make a mistake does your god smite u down at that very moment? NO he doesn't he gives you a chance to repent and u are punished if you do not(according to what the bible says). Why immediately punish some one without giving them a chance to apologize????????

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by iamwus

Any one hitting a female (other than disciplining a child) is a a weak willed individual and a coward! You sir disgust me!!!!!!!

So you think it's acceptable to beat a defenceless child, but not a woman who's old enough to look after herself? At what age does it stop becoming acceptable to use violence as a way of teaching a female a lesson?

Originally Posted by iamwus

Beating your mate is not in those passages seams to me that man was being used loosely not man as you and i but man as in mankind, but whatever.

Your brains is being used not at all. It is quite clearly talking about man in the sense of a male. That's why it mentions women as well.

This is a ludicrous reason to beat your wives/girlfriends if you were to make a mistake does your god smite u down at that very moment?

Sometimes.

NO he doesn't he gives you a chance to repent and u are punished if you do not(according to what the bible says). Why immediately punish some one without giving them a chance to apologize????????

So if they refuse to apologise for mis-cooking my steak, it then becomes acceptable to beat them? You seem a bit liberal, but I'm glad we agree on the core issues at stake (or at steak - I crack myself up sometimes) here.

[CrystalMeth98]

I don't believe this young woman deserved to be struck. While I understand your anger towards her burning your dinner, you have to understand
We are nothing like God. We are far from perfect, and we make mistakes, big and small. Your outburst was just an example of your human emotions.
I am a victim of the human curse of rage, both in real life and on this forum...

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by CrystalMeth98

While I understand your anger towards her burning your dinner, you have to understand We are nothing like God.

I understand that perfectly. That's why I gave her a black eye instead of smiting her with a plague of locusts.

[AliceS]

Originally Posted by Old Man Hatchet

He didn't attack her. He disciplined her, you insufferable harlot. You are the one who is doing the attacking. You need to leave poor Brother Temperance alone and go back to servicing tallywackers for two dollars a pop.

She's not attacking "poor" Brother Temperance, she's disciplining him.

[AliceS]

hey crystal meth, i'm sorry to hear that. If you're suffering abuse you should really seek help, either from a psychologist or social services. No one deserves to be the victim of a person's rage.
Good luck

[AliceS]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Okay, does anyone understand what this chink is talking about? I can't make heads nor tails of his gibberish.

I can understand perfectly what this person is saying. What I can't understand is why you evade all debate. Are you afraid of being proven wrong? Are you not capable of revising and explaining logically your ideas?

[Ebenezer Wright]

Originally Posted by AliceS

I can understand perfectly what this person is saying. What I can't understand is why you evade all debate. Are you afraid of being proven wrong? Are you not capable of revising and explaining logically your ideas?

Oh we are plenty capable. No one is interested in listening to the babbling fountain of boredom that is your mouth.

This is not a debate forum. The purpose of this site is to praise and glorify the Lord, Jesus Christ. It is a place for Christians to fellowship and worship. The goal of the Landover Baptist Church forum is to draw people to Jesus Christ because Scripture confirms that salvation comes only through Him.

[Don Bozo el Guapo]

Its never right, I cant do it even when they beg to be spanked. Even when the beers warm and they forget to feed the hounds a good swift kick in the butt should suffice. But beating? Nunca! Nunca! Nunca!

[Poketroid]

It's never right to beat anyone.

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by Poketroid

It's never right to beat anyone.

That's not what God said friend.

Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Sometimes he wants us to beat children, women, or just plainly kill a whole people. That's how much he loves us.

[Osambo 08]

It's never right to beat a woman unless you want to go to jail.Divorce is always an alternative .

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by Gunnels

Quoted for truth.

Quoted by an idiot! OK, you look it up, what are the only grounds for divorce according to Jesus?

[SayvedByTheLord]

Wrong again spook. God commands that a slut wife be dealt with properly. If it comes to divorce then she must pay the price and go to the Lake of Fire.

Jeremiah 3:7-9

And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.

And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.

Originally Posted by Osambo 08

It's never right to beat a woman unless you want to go to jail.Divorce is always an alternative .

[Osambo 08]

Originally Posted by SayvedByTheLord

Wrong again spook. God commands that a slut wife be dealt with properly. If it comes to divorce then she must pay the price and go to the Lake of Fire.

Jeremiah 3:7-9

And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.

And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.

There are things called repentance and imploring for forgiveness.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Osambo 08

It's never right to beat a woman unless you want to go to jail.Divorce is always an alternative .

The alternative to following God's Holy Word is eternal damnation. He spells out clearly in the Bible that He expects Men to subjugate women.

[Osambo 08]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

The alternative to following God's Holy Word is eternal damnation. He spells out clearly in the Bible that He expects Men to subjugate women.

Youve probably distorted his Word once again.