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Default Re: Horrifying Advertisers - 02-05-2007, 06:50 PM

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I urge you right now to read both of those sections of Scripture, and tell me what you think they mean.
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Default Re: Horrifying Advertisers - 02-05-2007, 06:55 PM

I'm sorry. I did not mean to offend anybody with that post. Please forgive me of that.

I in no way meant to make it seem like I wanted people to report to me. I just wanted some feedback. I wanted see what you guys think of those verses.

You see. There are too extremes that I am seeing.

There are the Christian liberals, who believe God is love, and only love.

There are you guys, who believe that God is just and only just.

There needs to be a happy medium met here. You have to realize that God is both a God of love and Justice. He is both a God of grace and wrath.
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Default Re: Horrifying Advertisers - 02-05-2007, 07:29 PM

Without trying to step on anyone's shoes here, I am stilled interested to hear your opinins on these verses. Once again they are:

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I agree that they were appropriate for that time and that time alone. There is no some situations. That was the only situation. The Old Testament Isrealites. When Jesus came, much of the old law was changed by Jesus himself. (Jesus worked on the Sabath, declaring he was Lord of the sabath and over it/ Jesus said that an eye for an eye was no more).

Jesus even came up with 2 new commandments ( I know I'm sounding like a broken record but these are important and you guys seem to be missing it.)

Jesus's new commandment was to love one another as thyself, how are we supposed to do that with rape and genocide.
Loving others as we love ourselves is not a new commandment from the NT.
Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD

Why did Jesus re-state an OT commandment like "love thy neighbour as thyself"? Because He and the Old Testament God are one. If God commanded rape and genocide, then so did Jesus. Do you suppose you could explain to an Amalekite woman exactly why her rape was a good thing, but the rape of a contemporary towelhead would be unacceptable?

The idea that Jesus came up with "love thy neighbour" and it was not featured in the Old Testament is an anti-semitic slur. Friend, are you some kind of an anti-semite?

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Without trying to step on anyone's shoes here, I am stilled interested to hear your opinins on these verses. Once again they are:

1 John 4:7-21
I found re-reading 1 John 4:7-21 slightly confusing. For instance, look at 1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

That first sentence seems a bit weird. After all, God appeared quite a lot to the patriarchs, and Numbers 33:11 even specifically mentions Moses talking face-to-face with God. The statement in 4:18 about there being no fear in love confused me a little bit as well - I know you'll probably try and claim that Jesus' new covenant cancels out the dozens of exhortations to fear God in the Old Testament, but then why are we commanded to fear God in Matthew 10:28, Luke 12:5, Ephesians 5:21, and 1 Peter 2:17? Oh, and how do we reconcile the statement in 1 John 4:20 that we cannot love God and hate our brother with the statement in Luke 14:26 that we cannot be Christ's disciples without hating our brothers? Of course, the Bible is infallible, so I know these can't be real contradictions, there must just be a problem in the way I'm reading them, but I seriously can't work out where I'm going wrong. Can you help out at all?


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There are the Christian liberals, who believe God is love, and only love.

There are you guys, who believe that God is just and only just.

There needs to be a happy medium met here. You have to realize that God is both a God of love and Justice. He is both a God of grace and wrath.
No, we don't.
We have always stressed that God is a God of both love and wrath.
He is God, and He has made EVERYTHING; both good and evil.


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Default Re: Horrifying Advertisers - 02-05-2007, 11:19 PM

Firs tof all, I thank you dearly for responding.

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Friend, are you some kind of an anti-semite?
I assure you I am not, and I will explain myself after the next comment...

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Oh, and how do we reconcile the statement in 1 John 4:20 that we cannot love God and hate our brother with the statement in Luke 14:26 that we cannot be Christ's disciples without hating our brothers? Of course, the Bible is infallible, so I know these can't be real contradictions, there must just be a problem in the way I'm reading them, but I seriously can't work out where I'm going wrong. Can you help out at all?
let us take a look at Luke 14:26 in full.

Luke 14:26
If any man come to me and hate not his Father, and Mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sister, yea, AND HIS OWN LIFE ALSO, he cannot be my disciple.

Then in verse 27 Jesus states..

And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Jesus then goes on to recite two short parables, and wraps them up by saying

(v. 33)
So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.


Alright. So when I look at Luke 14:26, I see the word hate, but then later the word forsaketh is used. I dont really think that the hate refered to here is the same hate in 1 John 4:20, and let me explain why.

Note in Luke who Jesus says we are to hate. Our father, mothers, wives, sisters, brothers, strangers, AND EVEN OURSELVES. According to this verse, we should hate every single person. Not just the sinners, but the righteous as well, and even ourselves. This leads me to believe that when Christ said 'hate', he meant 'forsake'. In verse 33 when he was summing up what he was trying to say he actually used the word 'forsake' instead of hate....so what does this mean?

This means that God was saying, 'You cannot be my disciple unless you place me at the head of your life.' If we value our father, if we value our wife, if we value our children, or anyone else, more than we value God, we can not be true disciples of Christ. If you think I made that up from my own thoughts, look at the following verse. He says whoever doesnt bear their cross. Whoever doesnt give up everythign for him, and give their all to him, will not be his disciple. He repeats this again in verse 33 by saying whoever doesnt forsake all else for me will not be my disciple.

So Jesus isn't saying that to become his disciples we need to hate people. He is saying that we need to make him number 1 in our life. Whatever was number 1 before him needs to be forsaken, for he is worthy of our complete devotion.

Thus, it does not contradict 1 John 4:20, and I'll post what it says so all can read it.

1 John 4:20
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar;: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love god whom he hath not seen?

Thats a good question by the apostle John, it's a question everyone needs to ask themselves, including me.
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let us take a look at Luke 14:26 in full.

Luke 14:26
If any man come to me and hate not his Father, and Mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sister, yea, AND HIS OWN LIFE ALSO, he cannot be my disciple.

Then in verse 27 Jesus states..

And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Jesus then goes on to recite two short parables, and wraps them up by saying

(v. 33)
So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.


Alright. So when I look at Luke 14:26, I see the word hate, but then later the word forsaketh is used. I dont really think that the hate refered to here is the same hate in 1 John 4:20, and let me explain why.

Note in Luke who Jesus says we are to hate. Our father, mothers, wives, sisters, brothers, strangers, AND EVEN OURSELVES. According to this verse, we should hate every single person. Not just the sinners, but the righteous as well, and even ourselves. This leads me to believe that when Christ said 'hate', he meant 'forsake'. In verse 33 when he was summing up what he was trying to say he actually used the word 'forsake' instead of hate....so what does this mean?

This means that God was saying, 'You cannot be my disciple unless you place me at the head of your life.' If we value our father, if we value our wife, if we value our children, or anyone else, more than we value God, we can not be true disciples of Christ. If you think I made that up from my own thoughts, look at the following verse. He says whoever doesnt bear their cross. Whoever doesnt give up everythign for him, and give their all to him, will not be his disciple. He repeats this again in verse 33 by saying whoever doesnt forsake all else for me will not be my disciple.

So Jesus isn't saying that to become his disciples we need to hate people. He is saying that we need to make him number 1 in our life. Whatever was number 1 before him needs to be forsaken, for he is worthy of our complete devotion.

Thus, it does not contradict 1 John 4:20, and I'll post what it says so all can read it.

1 John 4:20
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar;: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love god whom he hath not seen?

Thats a good question by the apostle John, it's a question everyone needs to ask themselves, including me.
Sorry friend, but, as nice as your explanation sounds, it just doesn't seem plausible. Jesus was a very articulate man (well, He is God, after all), and if He merely wanted us to forsake our families (and ourselves), I'm sure He would've stuck to just saying that. Try as I might, I just can't find any way of reading

If any man come to me and hate not his Father, and Mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sister, yea, AND HIS OWN LIFE ALSO, he cannot be my disciple.

where it doesn't seem to be commanding me to hate my brothers. It does remind me of another problem that's been bugging me of late. One of the most important commandments, repeated again and again throughout Deuteronomy, is to love God with all our heart and all our soul. But if we do that, how can we have any love left over for our brothers? I mean, if I had a wife who told me she loved me with all her heart, but she also loved my best friend, I really don't think I'd be able to take it very well, so I can't imagine God (who, let's not forget, is a Jealous God, as He reminds us throughout Exodus and Deuteronomy) looking too kindly on us loving other people too much. I mean, in 1 John 2:15, we're told to love not this world, or the things that are in this world, and I'm having serious difficulty reconciling that with the idea of loving even my Brothers In Christ, let alone every sinner in the world. Is there any help you can offer with that?

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But there is still enough love to go around. When someone asked Jesus what is the greatest commandment, he said. Let me show you the verse.

Matthew 22:34-40
But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducces to silence, they were gathered together. Then, one of them, which was a lawyer, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

jesus shows us here that there is enough love to go around. Now he stresses that these are two huge commands! We need to love God with all our being. But we also need to love or be kind to our neighbors. We should not hate anyone. 1 John tells you what will happen if you do, and Jesus commands you right here that you shouldnt. I dont know how much clearer it can be...
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But there is still enough love to go around. When someone asked Jesus what is the greatest commandment, he said. Let me show you the verse.

Matthew 22:34-40
But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducces to silence, they were gathered together. Then, one of them, which was a lawyer, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

jesus shows us here that there is enough love to go around. Now he stresses that these are two huge commands! We need to love God with all our being. But we also need to love or be kind to our neighbors. We should not hate anyone. 1 John tells you what will happen if you do, and Jesus commands you right here that you shouldnt. I dont know how much clearer it can be...
But at the same time, 1 John (admittedly, 1 John 2 rather than 1 John 4) tells us not to love this world or the things in it. It also tells us that all nonchristians are antichrists. I just can't see how I can love my neighbours (unless we're using neighbours in the narrowest sense possible) without loving this world.


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Default Re: Horrifying Advertisers - 02-06-2007, 12:49 AM

There is a fine line between loving the world, and loving people. Let me show you what I mean by revealing the very next verse in 1 John 2.

1 John 2:15-16
15 Love not the world, NEITHER THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE WORLD. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Alright. When John is telling us not to love the world and the things of the world, he isnt refering to actual PEOPLE, he is referring to THINGS. How do I know this? Look at the next verse. He lists off the things of the world that we should not love. He lists of lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride as a few examples of what he's talking about. If he really meant people, dont you think his examples would have been something like "drunkards, homosexuals, and sinners"? But no, that was not his examples because that wa snot what he was referring to.

You can still love your fellow man without loving the world. You have heard of the phrase, "Love the sinner, hate the sin." As much as I agree with you that it is somewhat a cliche, it does have truth to it.

Jesus was the perfect example of this. HE ATE WITH TAX COLLECTERS AND SINNERS. He associated with them on a daily basis. But he never partook in their actions. He loved his neighbor, but did not practice in their sin. Since we are to be like Christ aren't we supposed to do the same thing?
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But there is still enough love to go around. When someone asked Jesus what is the greatest commandment, he said. Let me show you the verse.

Matthew 22:34-40
But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducces to silence, they were gathered together. Then, one of them, which was a lawyer, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

jesus shows us here that there is enough love to go around. Now he stresses that these are two huge commands! We need to love God with all our being. But we also need to love or be kind to our neighbors. We should not hate anyone. 1 John tells you what will happen if you do, and Jesus commands you right here that you shouldnt. I dont know how much clearer it can be...
You misunderstand.

I suggest you review the KJV to see who your "neighbour" is. It's not everybody in the world. You go and search, and read every verse using the term "neighbour" (it should take you 15 minutes), and see for yourself that God defines the "neighbour" as your own people/nationality, and people in your life/sphere of influence.

Further, Jesus said that the whole of the law hangs upon, or is supported by, these two commandments. Nowhere does He say, "These two commandments cancel out the rest of the law." Instead, He says that the entire Law is to be upheld!
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You can still love your fellow man without loving the world. You have heard of the phrase, "Love the sinner, hate the sin." As much as I agree with you that it is somewhat a cliche, it does have truth to it.

Jesus was the perfect example of this. HE ATE WITH TAX COLLECTERS AND SINNERS. He associated with them on a daily basis. But he never partook in their actions. He loved his neighbor, but did not practice in their sin. Since we are to be like Christ aren't we supposed to do the same thing?
You can do what you like, but I'd be very wary about associating too closely with the unsaved:

Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Yes, Jesus ate with sinners, but He is God, the rules are different for Him. He didn't have to worry about being contaminated with sin, but we do, so we're specifically banned from eating with fornicators, drunkards and the like. That section from 2 John 1 even seems to suggest that being polite to sinners is to partake in their evil deeds.


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[quote=OnYourKnees;40183]You misunderstand.

I suggest you review the KJV to see who your "neighbour" is. It's not everybody in the world. You go and search, and read every verse using the term "neighbour" (it should take you 15 minutes), and see for yourself that God defines the "neighbour" as your own people/nationality, and people in your life/sphere of influence.
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I see you havent read the other passage yet. Matthew 5. This amazing chapter cancels out any doubt of what love your neighbour is all about. Because it goes one step furthur and tells you to love your enemies. Jesus also completes many Old Testament laws.

Brother Temperance and On Your Knees, please read Matthew 5.

Now brother,
I'm not telling you to go out and make tons of non-Christian friends, I'm just simply telling you to love them. As christ commanded.

Once again I urge you to read Matthew 5 right now! You can probably start at verse 17.

Here Christ talks about how he came to fulfill the law, then he goes on to talk about murder, adultery, divorce, and oaths, and finally, starting with verse 38 up until the end of the chapter, Christ talks about an eye for an eye and lovign your enemies. Please, if anything! At least read verses 38-48.
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I'm not telling you to go out and make tons of non-Christian friends, I'm just simply telling you to love them. As christ commanded.
We are FULL of Christian love! Why else would we try to save people from hell?
That doesn't mean that we are to tolerate sin!
Instead, we follow the Lord and chasten those we love:
We rebuke them, and we will carry out the commanded punishment that God has judged just in His laws.

"Loving someone" doesn't equal "not caring" as it seems to do for alot of you liberals.
If you love someone you will correct them that err by any means necessary.


And FYI, unsaved are not brothers, neither are they neighbours.
They would be what Jesus described as our enemies.


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And we are told to love our enemies....
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And we are told to love our enemies....
Didn't I just say we do?
Friend, your reading skills may need a little brushing up.


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Maybe its really Pastor NIP! Just like a slant-eye to pervert your religion and preach free love so he can get his hand on some white girls....or even more likely the boys after he gets them drunk on wine.

You should ask that no-good rice-eater Hitoshi to go undercover
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well that was real mature.
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Pay no attention to that starfool. He's a backslider. He used to be a True Christian™ but then took to worshiping rocks or some pagan nonsense. He's noisy but harmless. He spouts off with some crazy ideas sometimes....


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Pay no attention to that starfool. He's a backslider. He used to be a True Christian™ but then took to worshiping rocks or some pagan nonsense. He's noisy but harmless. He spouts off with some crazy ideas sometimes....
Pay no attention to Pastor Ezekiel starfool. Hes a modern day Pharisee. He likes to accuse people of being things that they are not, and he judges if people are saved or not because....I gues she just somehow knows. He's quiet but strict. He spouts off some crazy ideas sometimes....
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