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Default Re: Hello! - 04-20-2012, 08:01 PM

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I was reading from this...
http://biblebrowser.com/romans/15-7.htm
I just feel like all major Abrahamic religions preach virtually similar ideologies....I guess thats where I came up with all humans.
"Virtually" is not enough. You must preach and obey EVERY WORD:

Deuteronomy 8: 2-3 (King James Version):

And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.

also in Matthew 4:4:

But he answered and said, it is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

and Luke 4:4:

And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

Imagine you have a child, who then decides that, since some other person has the same rules and expects the same chores done, that you're no longer their mother. I mean, all mothers are the same, right?

That would be a foolish child, especially if their mother has a history of jealousy issues and extreme violence.

Anyway, what about hindus and buddhists and whatever the Chinese believe....That's about 2,000,000,000 people, what do your think about them and their eternal fate?
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Default Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-20-2012, 08:18 PM

Questioninglady, I'm still concerned that you may be subject to the vile influence of opera singer and "pop-crossover" singer Markella Hatziano.

http://www.tunecore.com/music/markella

This is what "opera" may get you, QLady. I certainly hope never to hear you squawking filth like this:

I had a dream
Of a peace­ful place
And the peace­ful place was here

No gods to love
No people to hate
For the hate would disappear

But it’s not like that
Gods’ people rule
And Gods’ people rule with fear
And I’m not afraid

They can’t have my mind
For my mind will persevere

I am just one voice
But with oth­ers just like me
We’ll fight the fight of reason together
Everyone’s a player in the game

No one can escape the god delu­sion
Every­where I look I see the same
People over­whelmed with god delusion
Every­day I feel the shame
of cen­tur­ies of god delu­sion
Every­body shares the blame
For a world still plagued by god delusion
All I see around me are the cas­u­al­ties of god delu­sion
Every­one bam­boozled with the cer­tain­ties of god delu­sion
Why can’t we have free­dom from the cruel­ties of god delu­sion
Save us all from god delusion

Time is run­ning out
To des­troy the gods
The gods no one can see

If we don’t want to die
And we want to live
We can’t live with theocracy

You can’t silence us
We are every­where
And every­where we’ll be

We will mock your gods
We’ll pro­claim the truth
And the truth is blasphemy

I am just one voice
But with oth­ers just like me
We’ll fight the fight of reason together

Everyone’s a player in the game
No one can escape the god delu­sion
Every­where I look I see the same
People over­whelmed with god delusion

Every­day I feel the shame
of cen­tur­ies of god delu­sion
Every­body shares the blame
For a world still plagued by god delusion
All I see around me are the cas­u­al­ties of god delu­sion
Every­one bam­boozled with the cer­tain­ties of god delu­sion
Why can’t we have free­dom from the cruel­ties of god delusion
Save us all from god delusion


Disgusting.


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Default Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-20-2012, 08:23 PM

Never heard of her, and never sung anything like that. All of the music I sing was written hundreds of years ago by composers who were primarily Christian or of Christian beliefs. What are your feelings on the lgbt community? (this is to all of you)
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Smile Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-20-2012, 08:28 PM

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Never heard of her, and never sung anything like that. All of the music I sing was written hundreds of years ago by composers who were primarily Christian or of Christian beliefs. What are your feelings on the lgbt community? (this is to all of you)
I am not familar with the 'lgbt' Church. Is it involved in Missionary OutReach in the Pacfic rim?


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-20-2012, 08:31 PM

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I am not familar with the 'lgbt' Church. Is it involved in Missionary OutReach in the Pacfic rim?
You're not very familiar with a lot of things that most of us consider common knowledge....gay, lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered
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Default Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-20-2012, 08:37 PM

No, I do not pride myself in intimately knowing all the ins and outs about Sodomites. I do know this:
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Do you ignore Gods word?


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-20-2012, 08:46 PM

I am a woman, am I allowed to lie with womankind?
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Angry Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-20-2012, 08:49 PM

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I am a woman, am I allowed to lie with womankind?
Show me the verse in the Bible that says it is OK to do it.

Are you sure you are 'Questioning' and no just hoping God will forgive you for being a foul breathed rug muncher?

Isaiah 3:9The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.
Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Never heard of her, and never sung anything like that. All of the music I sing was written hundreds of years ago by composers who were primarily Christian or of Christian beliefs. What are your feelings on the lgbt community? (this is to all of you)
I feel pity and great sadness knowing that they have rejected God's Will and sinned against Him, and chosen an eternity of unending agony in His Lake of Fire.

But I also feel hope, when I meet one of Landover's successful Ex-Gays, who has chosen Salvation over sodomy.


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I am a woman, am I allowed to lie with womankind?
God calls it a vile affection:

Romans 1:26-27: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


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I was reading from this...
http://biblebrowser.com/romans/15-7.htm
I just feel like all major Abrahamic religions preach virtually similar ideologies....I guess thats where I came up with all humans. I do have research and reading to do on the subject, so I'm sorry for anything that seems ignorant I may post, I'm really just hear to learn...
What!

There is only one major religion that has anything to do with Abraham.

The other two fake and false so-called religions are very much mistaken on the whole Jesus thing and therefore false.



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Default Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-20-2012, 09:17 PM

So you sing songs like Mozart's "lick my [back parts] nice and clean"?

Because Mozart was a scat-freak:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...tool=pmcentrez

"In his letters, Mozart made excessive use of obscene words, primarily focusing on defecation and anal vulgarities, suggesting the presence of coprographia. As an example, in one letter, written to Marianne on 28 February 1778, Mozart overly repeats the word “muck” (sh‐): “Muck! – Muck! – Ah, muck! Sweet word! Muck! Chuck! That too is fine. Muck, chuck! – muck! – suck – o charmante! Muck, suck! That's what I like! Muck, chuck and suck! Chuck muck and suck muck!”. Another example of a propensity towards foul language (coprolalia) is Mozart's cannons titled “Leck mich am Arsch” (“Lick my ass“), composed when he was 26 years old. Joseph Lange, who was an actor with the Burgtheater company and Mozart's brother‐in‐law (husband of Aloisia Weber, Mozart's earliest girlfriend and sister of his wife Constanze) and who had very close relations with Mozart, wrote about Mozart's vulgar platitudes."

It's possible by singing his music you might have become infected with Tourettes syndrome. I recommend http://www.demonbuster.com for advice on how to cast out the Tourette's demon.
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Default Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-20-2012, 09:34 PM

Sorry, I approached that issue from the wrong angle. I'll try again.

So, you're into scat-freaks? Just wait until you meet Jesus! No matter how filthy a sense of humour Mozart had, he'll never out-do the LORD:

But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you (Isaiah 36:12)

God orders His followers to make their bread with excrement:

(God preferred they bake it with human feces, but when they complained, He allowed them to substitute cow patties.) “And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man...Then said I, Ah, Lord God, behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself...Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow’s dung for man’s dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith” (Ezekiel 4:12-15).

God ordered his early followers to honor Him with animal dung:

Before Jesus, people atoned for their sins by sacrificing animals and their dung to God. (But only if they burned the dung outside town.)) “But the flesh of the bullock, and his skin, and his dung, shalt thou burn with fire without the camp: it is a sin offering” (Exodus 29:14). And the bullock for the sin offering, and the goat for the sin offering, whose blood was brought in to make atonement in the holy place, shall one carry forth without the camp; and they shall burn in the fire their skins, and their flesh, and their dung” (Leviticus 16:27).

God treats sinners like dogs, smearing feces on their faces: “If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the Lord of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart. Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it” (Malachi 2:2-3).

God promises to turn sinners into poop: “And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung” (Zephaniah 1:17).
“[Jehu] said, This is the word of the Lord, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel: And the carcase of Jezebel shall be as dung upon the face of the field” (2 Kings 9:36-37).

Everything in the world, other than Jesus, is crap: “Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ” (Philippians 3:8).
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I believe acceptance of all humans is a wonderful and practical thing in this day and age.
Are you some kind of terrorist sympathizer who gets excited when she thinks about 9-11? If so, then I cannot associate with you.


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Default Re: Hello! - 04-24-2012, 01:54 PM

I am in a relationship with a wonderful woman, and we plan to get married one day. I really don't understand how you can hate people who do no harm to you. After reading more on this forum, I really cannot believe the hate that you preach.....

The battle over gay marriage has been waged for more than a decade. The argument from your side goes something like this statement, which the Rev. Richard A. Hunter, a United Methodist minister, gave to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in June: "The Bible and Jesus define marriage as between one man and one woman. The church cannot condone or bless same-sex marriages because this stands in opposition to Scripture and our tradition."

To which there are two obvious responses: First, while the Bible and Jesus say many important things about love and family, neither explicitly defines marriage as between one man and one woman. And second, as the examples above illustrate, no sensible modern person wants marriage—theirs or anyone else's —to look in its particulars anything like what the Bible describes. "Marriage" in America refers to two separate things, a religious institution and a civil one, though it is most often enacted as a messy conflation of the two. As a civil institution, marriage offers practical benefits to both partners: contractual rights having to do with taxes; insurance; the care and custody of children; visitation rights; and inheritance. As a religious institution, marriage offers something else: a commitment of both partners before God to love, honor and cherish each other—in sickness and in health, for richer and poorer—in accordance with God's will. In a religious marriage, two people promise to take care of each other, profoundly, the way they believe God cares for them. Biblical literalists will disagree, but the Bible is a living document, powerful for more than 2,000 years because its truths speak to us even as we change through history. In that light, Scripture gives us no good reason why gays and lesbians should not be (civilly and religiously) married—and a number of excellent reasons why they should.

In the Old Testament, the concept of family is fundamental, but examples of what social conservatives would call "the traditional family" are scarcely to be found. Marriage was critical to the passing along of tradition and history, as well as to maintaining the Jews' precious and fragile monotheism. But as the Barnard University Bible scholar Alan Segal puts it, the arrangement was between "one man and as many women as he could pay for." Social conservatives point to Adam and Eve as evidence for their one man, one woman argument—in particular, this verse from Genesis: "Therefore shall a man leave his mother and father, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh." But as Segal says, if you believe that the Bible was written by men and not handed down in its leather bindings by God, then that verse was written by people for whom polygamy was the way of the world. (The fact that homosexual couples cannot procreate has also been raised as a biblical objection, for didn't God say, "Be fruitful and multiply"? But the Bible authors could never have imagined the brave new world of international adoption and assisted reproductive technology—and besides, heterosexuals who are infertile or past the age of reproducing get married all the time.)

I quoted a lot from the daily news. I am sure I will be reprimanded with hate from all of you. What is bad about me being in love, happy, successful, and loving my life harming no one around me? You tell me that.
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Why did I get a warning for that? I am being peaceful, kind and not trying to push my opinions onto you, just asking for yours in return.
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Default Re: "questioninglady" has political disagreements and a thin skin (Was: "Hello!") - 04-24-2012, 02:00 PM

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God hates queers of all kinds. That's the long and short of it. You can justify it and try and squirm out of God's Love any way you like, but the Scripture still stands:

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Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


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Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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