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Isabella White · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-02-2022, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

There is a case to be made for inviting Catholics to Landover Baptist. As anyone can read here, many of our True Christian™ member are opposed to it. I respect their views as well along with others.

But your statement, "..but listen to Catholics" is flat out dangerous. No, listening to Catholics puts us IN hell.

Well, I do not think that it would be such a bad idea to invite those Cathyolicks to

. That does not mean that we have to put up with their apostasy and Mary-worship nonsense; but, getting them here might be beneficial to our dear

and his mission.

If you will kindly take a peek at the following photos, you will see that their churches are often very elaborate. And, as we all know, fancy things cost a pretty penny. It would have cost them a small fortune to build some of those huge buildings. In other words, why not have them come here, and then get them tithing — generously — to

?

MitzaLizalor · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-03-2022, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Isabella White

It would have cost them a small fortune to build some of those huge buildings.

I disagree. It would have cost a LARGE fortune. Sometimes people say, "Oh resources were cheaper then." I smile, a little sadly, and think, resources were still resources then. Whatever's spent on building elaborate monstrosities remains unavailable for other things, such as inventing electricity. Rome's idols don't simply flourish amidst poverty, the creed itself requires poverty to become established.

Barcelona is a good example. Having brought down the dark ages on everyone who'd listen—and murdering those who wouldn't—it was monstrosity time. "Bleed the wretches dry, we'll have our cathedral," seems to have been the policy and after a century or two the building was completed. Sort of. Always room for more gargoyles of course, even centuries later; after about half a millennium of this, (individuals come and go obviously but what's a lifetime to monsters of that ilk?) another cathedral was called for. Once catholicism was weakened, electricity could be invented, a radio could be designed (but Marconi had to get out of Italy to do so) and prosperity could resume. Nations where Romism was overturned could invent things, the rest could buy them and experience internal efficiencies—compare even 18th century steam power¹ to peasants with scythes—resulting in a surplus for inventing² new machines or building³ new monstrosities, the latter still requiring centuries. "Barcelona Cathedral" and "Gaudi Barcelona Cathedral" are easy enough to look up but the real topic here is IDOLS.

The above⁴ is from just a single chapel. I've included two thumbnails linking to two larger versions.
• the small thumbnail is 1478x2048 72px” JPEG (1.2MB)
• the large thumbnail is 2048x2837 72px”JPEG (2.1MB)
so you can count the idols for yourself, if so inclined. I've done that for you as follows:

TOP
6 [LEFT PANEL]
14 [MID PANEL]
5 [RIGHT PANEL]

SHELF
5 heads [3 above, 2 below]

MIDDLE
2 complete idols + 3 heads; 1 snake [LEFT PANEL]
2 [MID PANEL]
10 + 1 sheep [RIGHT PANEL]

SHELF
20 heads [UPPER SHELF]
2 heads, 2 severed hands, 2 bunches grapes [LOWER SHELF]

PILLARS
2 heads
1 child with looted jewels & cornucopia
1 extra head [LEFT PAIR]
2nd child with looted jewels & cornucopia
2 heads + 3rd head
possible serpent in panel above [RIGHT PAIR]

There are assorted vague shapes that could be angels or cherubs or extra heads and/or other body parts (such as top right of upper mid. panel) but could also be the eyes imagining things – which is the whole point of idolatry. We see how Rome insinuates itself into the legislative process wherever possible and the dogma has never changed. Or if it did temporarily, can always be changed back. What's to say if Romists are invited along (feigning interest) after a century or so (or a single generation) they'll not suggest aids to contemplation such as rosaries or statues and the next thing you'd know—well, we wouldn't know: we'd be dead—is the abomination set up once more just as they'd planned all along. Popes may come and go but the tide they direct continues on, as is readily seen today.

I remain cautious and have not invited my papist along yet.

1. My friends do not drive so I'm roped in to visit steam fairs. As it happens they usually have very good cakes and the machines of course are unmistakeable so I've seen quite a few by now.
2. Some people invent things. Those who don't complain they're at a disadvantage (the scythes again) or can't buy new inventions due to discrimination. Rome is the grandfather of discrimination. Is this appropriate for Landover? For America? Or even for the whole world.
3. Barcelona got this monstrosity next, still a work in progress.
Check again next century.
Same resources req'd as for the last one.

tap or click graphic for full-sized horror show

4. and the full-sized version of the chapel idols is here (6,122 × 8,481 px jpeg) makes it easier to count the heads.

handmaiden · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-03-2022, 07:47 AM

I didn't pick up my Bible and actually read its words to learn the real story of sin and salvation in order to be dragged back into associations with Catholics.

My ex-Mary Worshipper award was the very first medal bestowed on me by the Landover Baptist Pastors and I still treasure it.

Do NOT trust Catholics! There has to be a way to separate them from their vast wealth and turn those riches to the cause of True Christianity™ without succumbing to popish blandishments. Those greedy, idolaters worshipping gold-plated statues can't be that hard to trick, can they?

MitzaLizalor · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-03-2022, 05:51 PM

The problem is more that they don't think Christians are doing anything they don't do themselves. Many of them think they are already Christians. Even if they did come along it's extremely unlikely they'd give up the holy water when they got home.

Without wanting to seem too "progressive" there could be a glimmering light from the Episcopalians. As they lurch more strongly into heresy or (in the opposite direction) adopt wishy-washy doctrines about dolphins and the aether, some of their clergy are converting to catholicism. Many of them are married. Welcomed with open arms by the pope "back into the fold" as it were, a problem emerged. What to do with the wives? The solution was to allow Anglican ex-vicars to become priests and remain married if they were married at the time. A single vicar becoming a priest could not marry subsequently I gather.

That means, however, that now there are married priests. Some of their congregation will have questions and those questions have answers. This flickering light of the priest's wife, the simple fact that she exists, could be a first step in questioning dogma in other areas. Once they do that, there could be an opening for an invitation. I'll ask my papist and see if there's an answer.

its_faith · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-04-2022, 01:02 AM

No Papists allowed!

Johny Joe Hold · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-04-2022, 02:54 AM

I stumbled into a new Catholic Bishop's initiative and I'm concerned. The Bishops issued a statement they seek "healing" in the post Roe period. It implies they were the ones responsible for turning back Roe and now they want to be everyone's friend. The facts are Landover Baptist and Pastor Zeke pulled the strings that overturned Roe.

If this "reaching out" means they want to come into our Landover Baptist Church to schmooze and shake hands, no thank you. We are interested in converting Catholics, not getting along with them.

USCCB Statement on U.S. Supreme Court Ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson | USCCB

MitzaLizalor · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-04-2022, 03:14 PM

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WASHINGTON - In response to the Supreme Court of the United States issuing its ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, Archbishop José… … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … …

Thank you taking the trouble to read that and explain his nibs' message. You can see where I stopped: everything after that is meaningless to me – but, will inform the actions of others for whom "archbishops" are a thing.

It's taken five hundred years to get rid of laws laid down by Rome using these archbishops, cardinals, metropolitans, what-have-you. To get rid of tyrants who burned us alive when they were not only the law but also the education system. They used a simple enough system: corrupt not only WHAT people learn but HOW they learn. The result was that pupils were unable to distinguish between reliable information and unreliable information. The second category is not actually information at all – it's garbage. But the pope required people to believe garbage so that he and his bishops/cardinals/etc. could carry on living in bloated luxury. Whether the conquistadors believed this garbage or not (I'm going with "not") is irrelevant here because they needed everyone else to believe it so they could bleed off their assets for Rome. If they kept doing that, Rome would let them keep playing sailors.

Enter Queen Elizabeth, after whom Virginia is named. She knew all about popes AND how to get rid of them. Catholicism was defeated in England and the colonies prospered. Naturally the people prefer to make their own laws and that happened BUT the pope was drooling to get his hands on a useful resource (not one he'd done anything to build up) watching waiting and always ready to pounce. A century is nothing to these freaks.

“At first,” he'd think, “I'll do some laws reflecting Biblical values, just like back in the 2-hundreds when we were pretending not to be pagans.” Well, they're still pretending that and as long as what comes out of the education system can't see it, he'll carry on claiming successes where nothing is actually due to Rome but muscling in on the action is a speciality of popes, cardinals & whatever other fancy titles they think up for themselves and the primary cause of so many risking life and limb to get out of every Romish hell-hole. They know what it's like. The pope knows that too and what took half the last millennium to get rid of can spring back into action very quickly indeed. Thank you again for reading this and reporting on our behalf.

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James Hutchins · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-09-2022, 12:15 AM

While I welcome all with open arms, a blanket invitation to a group of Godless people that worship 'a prostitute virgin' makes no sense to me. Obviously, these people are as gullible as kittens in a lawn mower.
However, if we are able to provide one with True Salvation ™ then it is a worthy mission.

So bring on the rosary rattlers and pot smokers and fish hats.

MitzaLizalor · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-09-2022, 03:45 PM

Have they started smoking pot now?

Johny Joe Hold · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-09-2022, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by James Hutchins

So bring on the rosary rattlers and pot smokers and fish hats.

Just an idea: Would it add to the fun of converting Catholics if we passed a metal bucket around the congregation? Catholics would be instructed in throw their rosaries in the bucket. Each toss would make a loud noise (or we could enhance with a secret mic fed into the sound system). Every tossed rosary would bring a cheer from our congregation.

WWJDnow · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-09-2022, 10:29 PM

We have always opened our doors to Catholics to leave their false church and become Christians.

Honestly, the results have been mixed. Sure, a few have seen the light, but how many times do we have to explain that, no, we won't mount idols of Jesus in our church or ask our pastors to wear dresses to make the ex-Catholics feel more at home, and that the Eucharist is not an inexpensive lunch meat. My own opinion is that we should just cherrypick the biggest tithers and let the rest find a spiritual home in some lesser Baptist church where they have more patience.

MitzaLizalor · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-10-2022, 05:31 AM

Has anyone else wondered who the "Jesus" idol is? It can't actually be Him because He is building His Church and has promised that things like idols would not prevail. That sounds pretty hands on to me.

Matthew 16 [JESUS SPEAKING]
18d I will build my church
18e the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Hell is trying to prevail over the Church. Satan doesn't know how to do anything else and idols are central to his scheme as are other features of Rome described in Pastor's address. Jesus in His hands-on capacity would not allow idols of Himself to be made because He loves us. Which leaves me wondering, who was the model for their "Jesus" idol?

Johny Joe Hold · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-17-2022, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Which leaves me wondering, who was the model for their "Jesus" idol?

One thing for certain, we cannot allow Catholics to bring in their own department store manikins. I've seen the inside of Catholic churches and Marys and Jesuses are just disgusting. Do they dress them in different outfits for the seasons?

New Catholics would need to have a stern lecture before entering. Conform or get out.

MitzaLizalor · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-18-2022, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

the inside of Catholic churches

I wandered into one once. Very confronting. Even if I didn't know about idols, simply as "statues" they'd be disturbing to any sane person. About 1900 the old lunatic asylums were phased out or more likely just closed and everyone would have to go somewhere else. "Mental illness" was invented to replace the legal condition of lunacy. For half a century there was a gap in categories of mad persons until someone noticed the condition of "insanity" was not irrational and that insane people could actually function normally, unlike lunatics, the mentally ill, psychotics, neurotics, etc., all of whom are impaired and unable to function normally.

Insane persons are quite rational, it was observed, according to their beliefs such as IF they are made of glass THEN they need to be careful and not bump into things – which is perfectly rational given the initial assumption. Other than that they could navigate the world as well as anyone and hold down a job. Probably not as a pneumatic road bumper though.

Back to the idols. Our insane glass person would be sufficiently worried about walking into hard edges to not notice the revolting statue and would not be affected. The fact that it is stone or wood and edged and hard outweighs the subject matter itself. For any sane person even as "statues" they'd be disturbing due to the tortures depicted and the obsessive treatment of Mary together with all the others whose facial expressions are straight out of one of those asylums.

To sit there with a priest droning or wailing or whatever they do, looking at the statues, sitting, standing, kneeling, getting the close-range muttering, surely induces a similar state of mind – rather than not bumping edges though, as in the case of glass, it's not upsetting the total solution offered by the creed. And especially not upsetting the clergy. Otherwise your deceased loved one could miss out on parole from purgatory

and we know what that means.

Money. Even if the pope has modest tastes, all those palaces still need to be maintained and the cardinals need to eat. I wonder if they have a wine cellar?

Now I'm much more careful which buildings I walk into. I've asked my papist about attending Baptist services but am waiting to hear.

WWJDnow · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-18-2022, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

One thing for certain, we cannot allow Catholics to bring in their own department store manikins. I've seen the inside of Catholic churches and Marys and Jesuses are just disgusting. Do they dress them in different outfits for the seasons?

Unfortunately, they do. For Catholics, Jesus and Mary are basically life-sized Ken and Barbie dolls. I've heard stories of Catholics holding Beach House Jesus masses where everyone celebrated the Eucharist while wearing string bikinis and eating marijuana brownies in the place of communion wafers, then piled into RVs to go skinny dipping. There is simply no end to Catholic blasphemies.

Mary Etheldreda · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 07-18-2022, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

Just an idea: Would it add to the fun of converting Catholics if we passed a metal bucket around the congregation? Catholics would be instructed in throw their rosaries in the bucket. Each toss would make a loud noise (or we could enhance with a secret mic fed into the sound system). Every tossed rosary would bring a cheer from our congregation.

Do you remember the old Bozo the Clown show? They had six buckets and with every bucket you made, you got a bigger prize. We might catch some of those more fecund Catholic families with dozens of rosaries and offer them a similar game. I wonder what the Grand Prize might be.

Johny Joe Hold · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 11-23-2022, 04:20 PM

If we are going to limit Catholic entrance to Landover Baptist Church, it seems like we should start by studying last names. Anyone with an Italian sounding name should be excluded.

The reason for this is the record-breaking number of clergy sex abuse cases compiled in Italy. There have been over 600 cases reported. This is reason to suspect not only Catholic priests from Italy but any other Italian Catholics.

Italy church says 600 sex abuse cases sent to Vatican (religionnews.com)

handmaiden · **Re: Should We Invite Catholics to Landover Baptist -** 11-23-2022, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

If we are going to limit Catholic entrance to Landover Baptist Church, it seems like we should start by studying last names. Anyone with an Italian sounding name should be excluded.

The reason for this is the record-breaking number of clergy sex abuse cases compiled in Italy. There have been over 600 cases reported. This is reason to suspect not only Catholic priests from Italy but any other Italian Catholics.

Brother Mayor, if Italian sorts are going to be allowed into LBC then they really should be encouraged to deal with all that Italiany-stuff. They need to watch their tempers, lower their voices and sit on their hands if necessary while talking.

It would also help if they avoided the sun, (some of them are still rather swarthy) and learned to cook something--anything, really, withOUT garlic.

And it goes without saying that they need to stop muttering "Mamma mia" and "Holy Mother of God" between 80% of their sentences.

If I can successfully become an ex-Eyetalian, then so can they. These days, most people who meet me don't even suspect that I am of the breed.