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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
03-07-2010, 09:54 PM
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Someone having a vivd dream is hardly reliable.
first incident - Drowing, starved lack of oxygen to the brain causing a 'high' which can include seeing things and having lucid dreams.
second incident - Overdose, again putting the advised amount of medicine in your body, also can cause 'visions' and such.
Nostradamus drunk absinthe, and then made his prophecies. But Nostradamus is hardly 'reliable'.
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Do you have any scripture to back this up?
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
03-08-2010, 05:15 AM
i like the mystery veiling it all. there's no definitive proof of authenticity nor much t go on to disprove it. interesting none the less.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
03-14-2010, 02:55 PM
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Do you have any scripture to back this up?
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You don't need scripture with scientific facts. The body needs oxygen to live, with starved oxygen the brain functions less. axphixiation during certain things also cause this high, people have accidently died trying to do this. But thos that achieve this high always report a euphoric feeling during the time they starve the brain of oxygen, but are still aware of their sense's.
You don't need scripture for everything.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
03-14-2010, 05:39 PM
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You don't need scripture with scientific facts.
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Are you retarded? How can it be science if there is no scripture to back it up?
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
03-14-2010, 09:38 PM
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You don't need scripture with scientific facts. The body needs oxygen to live, with starved oxygen the brain functions less. axphixiation during certain things also cause this high, people have accidently died trying to do this. But thos that achieve this high always report a euphoric feeling during the time they starve the brain of oxygen, but are still aware of their sense's.
You don't need scripture for everything.
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Ummm...... I've had my head held under water for a fairly extensive time (mean older brothers) I can tell you that being starved of oxygen is not a "euphoric feeling". In fact I was quite panicky and definitely NOT HAPPY.
If you think it's so great, why don't you try going swimming with a large rock and see how you feel.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
03-17-2010, 04:34 PM
I honestly cannot fathom how atheists can ignore such painfully conclusive empiricle evidence like this sound clip.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
04-28-2011, 11:33 PM
My friend. I too believe in Christ but one thing I do not believe is this story of digging through Siberia to Hell. If this such story was true it wouldn't exist in some poor quality recording with scientist never revisiting. The technology/time/money it would take to dig 14km below the earth so deep to find Hell would be such a worthwhile finding that it would be extensively researched. Even by 'sickular' scientist, it was them that supposedly found and recorded this in the first place. I doubt they would just leave such a finding behind.
Let me fill you in on the details.
This legend is quite popular among Christian groups as it "proves" Hell (and therefore God) exists. Popular endings to the story have it that the scientists ran screaming from the site, or that since the discovery conversions to Christianity are occurring at an unprecedented rate.
If there is a Hell under Siberia, scientists have yet to discover it. What we have here is an enthralling legend that's been spun off an actual event.
In 1984, an article about an experimental well in Russia's Kola Peninsula appeared in Scientific American. The Kola well reached 12 kilometers into the ground, where scientists encountered rare rock formations, flows of gas and water, and temperatures up to 180°. (That's 180°, folks, not the 2,000° usually reported in any "Scientists Discover Hell!" screed. It was hot, but it wasn't hellishly so.)
Those who did the actual drilling of this very real well did not break through to a hollow centre, and certainly no piteous screams of the damned were heard. That part — all of it — was pure embellishment added after this real event was turned into a legend. (Yes, we know that any number of web sites offer audio clips purporting to be the screams of the damned as recorded in the Well to Hell, and all of them sound like they could be the noise from a typical bar on a busy Friday evening.)
The report on the digging of that well and the difficulties encountered during the project were collided with someone's vision of what should have been found down there. A little exaggerating about depth and temperature, some fabrication about hollow centres and screams,
and all of a sudden there was this great story to throw back at those who claim there is no God.
Though it's impossible to pinpoint when the news story about a well in Russia transformed into a story about scientists breaking into Hell or who was responsible for that transformation, we do know that in 1989 the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) aired a "Scientists Discover Hell" story and placed the event as happening in the Kola Peninsula. A Norwegian schoolteacher visiting California heard that broadcast and took the story back to Norway with him. He then mailed it to a Christian magazine in Finland. In the form of a letter from a reader, it reached a Finnish missionaries newsletter. From there it returned to the United States, reaching both the TBN people and other evangelists who then claimed they had gotten it from a respected Finnish scientific journal.
In the spring of 1990, the legend as we now know it appeared in both Praise The Lord (February) and Midnight Cry (April). Debunkings of it showed up in Christianity Today (July) and Biblical Archaeology Review (November). Even so, the Weekly World News ran the story in 1992, this time setting it in Alaska and claiming thirteen oil rig workers were killed when the Devil came roaring up out of the ground.
This story has been around the block a few times and I'm not trying to argue the existence of Hell or the damned. I just hate to see people misled. The actual audio breaks and you hear a voice in the mix that sounds like a deep garbled voice (some think it is the devil). If you extract the audio and slowly play back the audio you can clearly hear the audio break and the new audio is snipped in with no background screams and the volume levels change entirely. They are not consistent at all.
I think hell resides in an a place the human mind cannot possibly comprehend.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
04-28-2011, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PsyKoJeZus
My friend. I too believe in Christ but one thing I do not believe is this story of digging through Siberia to Hell. If this such story was true it wouldn't exist in some poor quality recording with scientist never revisiting. The technology/time/money it would take to dig 14km below the earth so deep to find Hell would be such a worthwhile finding that it would be extensively researched. Even by 'sickular' scientist, it was them that supposedly found and recorded this in the first place. I doubt they would just leave such a finding behind.
Let me fill you in on the details.
This legend is quite popular among Christian groups as it "proves" Hell (and therefore God) exists. Popular endings to the story have it that the scientists ran screaming from the site, or that since the discovery conversions to Christianity are occurring at an unprecedented rate.
If there is a Hell under Siberia, scientists have yet to discover it. What we have here is an enthralling legend that's been spun off an actual event.
In 1984, an article about an experimental well in Russia's Kola Peninsula appeared in Scientific American. The Kola well reached 12 kilometers into the ground, where scientists encountered rare rock formations, flows of gas and water, and temperatures up to 180°. (That's 180°, folks, not the 2,000° usually reported in any "Scientists Discover Hell!" screed. It was hot, but it wasn't hellishly so.)
Those who did the actual drilling of this very real well did not break through to a hollow centre, and certainly no piteous screams of the damned were heard. That part — all of it — was pure embellishment added after this real event was turned into a legend. (Yes, we know that any number of web sites offer audio clips purporting to be the screams of the damned as recorded in the Well to Hell, and all of them sound like they could be the noise from a typical bar on a busy Friday evening.)
The report on the digging of that well and the difficulties encountered during the project were collided with someone's vision of what should have been found down there. A little exaggerating about depth and temperature, some fabrication about hollow centres and screams,
and all of a sudden there was this great story to throw back at those who claim there is no God.
Though it's impossible to pinpoint when the news story about a well in Russia transformed into a story about scientists breaking into Hell or who was responsible for that transformation, we do know that in 1989 the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) aired a "Scientists Discover Hell" story and placed the event as happening in the Kola Peninsula. A Norwegian schoolteacher visiting California heard that broadcast and took the story back to Norway with him. He then mailed it to a Christian magazine in Finland. In the form of a letter from a reader, it reached a Finnish missionaries newsletter. From there it returned to the United States, reaching both the TBN people and other evangelists who then claimed they had gotten it from a respected Finnish scientific journal.
In the spring of 1990, the legend as we now know it appeared in both Praise The Lord (February) and Midnight Cry (April). Debunkings of it showed up in Christianity Today (July) and Biblical Archaeology Review (November). Even so, the Weekly World News ran the story in 1992, this time setting it in Alaska and claiming thirteen oil rig workers were killed when the Devil came roaring up out of the ground.
This story has been around the block a few times and I'm not trying to argue the existence of Hell or the damned. I just hate to see people misled. The actual audio breaks and you hear a voice in the mix that sounds like a deep garbled voice (some think it is the devil). If you extract the audio and slowly play back the audio you can clearly hear the audio break and the new audio is snipped in with no background screams and the volume levels change entirely. They are not consistent at all.
I think hell resides in an a place the human mind cannot possibly comprehend.
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Dear Friend,
Good for you. You've stolen this from snopes.com. Snopes.com is the painstaking life's work of Barbara and David Mikkelson, and their livelihood. But I guess it's more important that you look smart in front of strangers than that Barbara or David or their children eat.
http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.asp
So you're a heartless thief -- what else?
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
04-29-2011, 12:52 AM
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While sickular scientists try to denounce the Word of God as a myth, at last evidence has emerged that irrefutably proves that Hell is real, that it lies beneath the crust of the earth, and that the immaterial souls of the deceased are being torture there forever making material soundwaves of their screams. Here it is:
Warning, it is not for the feint of heart!
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First of all it's spelled secular not sickular LMAO. Any you guys are crazy, if any of you believe this bullshit video. First of all sounds can be recorded and edited into a video and then theres a program called photoshop you cant edit pictures. Some fanatical Christian from this site probably made it
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
04-29-2011, 05:27 AM
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First of all it's spelled secular not sickular LMAO.
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I prefer sickular. Just like you. Sicko.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
08-15-2011, 03:34 AM
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You don't need scripture with scientific facts. The body needs oxygen to live, with starved oxygen the brain functions less. axphixiation during certain things also cause this high, people have accidently died trying to do this. But thos that achieve this high always report a euphoric feeling during the time they starve the brain of oxygen, but are still aware of their sense's.
You don't need scripture for everything.
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If what you say is not in the bible then it is the doctrine of demons and at that, you are unsaved-trash and your science cannot be trusted.
Hebrews
4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
Your science is false, and dead, for it is not based on the word of God and thus, does not build up faith!
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10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
10:18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
04-15-2012, 11:19 PM
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Dear Friend,
Good for you. You've stolen this from snopes.com. Snopes.com is the painstaking life's work of Barbara and David Mikkelson, and their livelihood. But I guess it's more important that you look smart in front of strangers than that Barbara or David or their children eat.
http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.asp
So you're a heartless thief -- what else?
BAB
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Where are your manners. For all you know I am Barbara or David Mikkelson. Ye not judge lest ye judged. Anyways, do you have a good reason to believe the well to hell is real?
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
04-15-2012, 11:35 PM
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...Ye not judge lest ye judged...
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If you're going to quote the Bible, at least get it right.
Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, that ye be not judged."
You also need to look at it IN CONTEXT. The verse immediately following that one sheds more light on what it really means:
Matthew 7:2 " For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. "
This thread will help you understand that passage: The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
02-10-2013, 07:58 AM
If hell is in the center of the earth and it is forever what happens to the people in 10 billion years when the earth is pulled into the gravity of the sun? it is a mathmatical fact that the earth will not be here forever. So what becomes of hell? Why is there a hell and why can't people be given a second chance? Whats the point of hell?
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
02-10-2013, 08:22 AM
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If hell is in the center of the earth and it is forever what happens to the people in 10 billion years when the earth is pulled into the gravity of the sun? it is a mathmatical fact that the earth will not be here forever. So what becomes of hell? Why is there a hell and why can't people be given a second chance? Whats the point of hell?
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To accommodate people like you who would rather burn than accept forgiveness. Going to Hell is a choice, and a popular one at that.
Why don't you make your way over to the introduction section and follow the simple instructions laid out for you? Thanks, friend.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
02-10-2013, 08:26 AM
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If hell is in the center of the earth and it is forever what happens to the people in 10 billion years when the earth is pulled into the gravity of the sun?...
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Your evidence that the gravity of the Sun is increasing?
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...it is a mathmatical fact that the earth will not be here forever...
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Scientific answer: our species (Homo sapiens) has been around for less than 200,000 years. 10 billion years is 50 THOUSAND times that long. What makes you think humanity will last more than even a tiny fraction of that time?
Bible answer: 10 billion years? The Earth only was created a little over six thousand years ago! If the Earth was going to last that long, wouldn't the Bible say so?
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...Whats the point of hell?
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What is God supposed to do with all the bad people He created?
Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
02-11-2013, 12:14 PM
You guys might have caught it this past Christmas, but there is some old documentary from the 40s, I think--it's in black and white at any rate--about this one dude that tries to kill himself on Christmas Eve. He was down on his luck and he thought that his whole life was a mess. Anyhow, an angel saves him just before he commits suicide and then he takes him around and shows him how life on Earth would be if he had never been born. In the end the man is begging to have his old life back. Then, all his friends come around and give him money. I'm pretty sure it's true.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
02-13-2013, 08:03 PM
That's a good movie. I saw it a few days before Christmas.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
02-14-2013, 07:44 AM
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That's a good movie. I saw it a few days before Christmas.
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How could you see anything at Christmas. You're blind. Or have you forgotten that little detail about your persona?
Isaiah 66:15
For behold, the Lord wil come with fire, and with his charets like a whirlewinde, to render his anger with furie, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
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Re: Proof that Hell is real: audio recordings of the damned! -
02-14-2013, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Paragon of virtue
You guys might have caught it this past Christmas, but there is some old documentary from the 40s, I think--it's in black and white at any rate--about this one dude that tries to kill himself on Christmas Eve. He was down on his luck and he thought that his whole life was a mess. Anyhow, an angel saves him just before he commits suicide and then he takes him around and shows him how life on Earth would be if he had never been born. In the end the man is begging to have his old life back. Then, all his friends come around and give him money. I'm pretty sure it's true.
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I know the movie. It promotes that being a "good person" is more important than believing in God. He mocks the angel until the angel (who's a bumbling idiot, show me a bumbling angel in the Bible) proves what a good person he really is.
Yeah, I'd burn it before I'd let my kids watch it.
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