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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-10-2008, 08:04 PM

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As I said, what if an unbeliver does incredibly good things, like saving one of you from falling off a cliff? Would he still go to hell?
The path to hell is lined with good intentions



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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 12:17 AM

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Do with me whatever you see fit, personally it doesn't matter, only "God" and I know my true intentions, so you are the one who will decide whether you are fit to judge me.
Of course I'm fit to judge you, Andrew! I'm a Christian washed clean of sin by the blood of the Lord! However, you're behaving yourself right now (in a secular, God-hating way), so I won't punish you for your intentions, but I will keep an eye on your behavior.


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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 02:03 AM

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Of course I'm fit to judge you, Andrew! I'm a Christian washed clean of sin by the blood of the Lord! However, you're behaving yourself right now (in a secular, God-hating way), so I won't punish you for your intentions, but I will keep an eye on your behavior.
I dont hate your "God", im just not a "God" fearing christian, is that really so bad?


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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 02:12 AM

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I dont hate your "God", im just not a "God" fearing christian, is that really so bad?
It's fine, if you don't mind an eternity of unending torture.

Is that something you look forward to? Are you a masochist, friend? I guarantee the demons torturing you in Hell will NOT look like Lucy Liu, nor will they be wearing patent leather thigh-high boots with 6" heels and carrying feather dusters!
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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 02:36 AM

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It's fine, if you don't mind an eternity of unending torture.

Is that something you look forward to? Are you a masochist, friend? I guarantee the demons torturing you in Hell will NOT look like Lucy Liu, nor will they be wearing patent leather thigh-high boots with 6" heels and carrying feather dusters!
Surprisingly eternity isn't that long. And I was playing poker with Satan last weekend, he's a pretty good guy, just a little misunderstood. Its a bonus that I won a grand off him though


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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 03:05 AM

you know that when the sun sets in the west that the night has fallen. You know this as scientific. The sun is now "below" your part of the globe bringing light to the other parts of the world and it will do so until it rises again in the east.
You believe this. Is it an extreme belief?
No it isn't...it's a belief based on your life experiences.

We believe in a God who sent His only son. It's not an extreme belief...it just is. For many of us Christians, it is as dependable as knowing the sun will set and rise again.

So many of you poor unsaved people use our so called "extremism" to try and defraud our positions and comments...so that you may be allowed to sin and possibly wank off.
Whenever I see a post by someone who is a "pc christian" or a politically correct christian (all lower case on purpose) then I can almost guarantee that their post will be one of condemnation because we do not approve of the sins they get themselves involved in.
You might say I have an extreme belief in knowing when you are going to say something like..."yes I am a Christian and masturbation isn't that bad" or "of course I am a Christian and it's okay to have gay parades"

Or the thousands of times you yell out..."judge not lest ye be judged!!!" and do you even have a clue what that means in it's entirity?

Do you not know that Timothy says..."rebuke in righteousness in all the seasons?"

Yes you that shout out extremism...you have no clue. The moment you use such a term we know why.



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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 03:18 AM

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Please explain to us upon what you base your belief that ignoring God's Word (and, in fact, acting in direct opposition to His commandments) will get this person a one-way ticket to Heaven.

Your own imagination or your human concepts of "fair play" are not relevant, only God's Will is.

I'm sorry if I offended you. I was simply saying that God is great, so much that is simply inexplainable. His love for each and every one of us is so strong that eternal damnation seems a little harsh for a good person. And that way, God can pass his own judgement on the matter, For his word, even a single thought of his, is stronger than ANYTHING that has ever been written.
And remember Jesus drank all past, present and future sins of man, so that we could all go to heaven and be with god.
So for the case of this good man (or woman), I believe God would be happy to share a little piece of heaven with him.


If I am incorrect feel free to tell me. I will not take anything you say personally, but simply as love for your neighbour in telling me the right way.


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I'm sorry if I offended you. I was simply saying that God is great, so much that is simply inexplainable. His love for each and every one of us is so strong that eternal damnation seems a little harsh for a good person. And that way, God can pass his own judgement on the matter, For his word, even a single thought of his, is stronger than ANYTHING that has ever been written.
And remember Jesus drank all past, present and future sins of man, so that we could all go to heaven and be with god.
So for the case of this good man (or woman), I believe God would be happy to share a little piece of heaven with him.


If I am incorrect feel free to tell me. I will not take anything you say personally, but simply as love for your neighbour in telling me the right way.
Wow, that was bizarre, dear.

You haven't offended me at all. Instead, you've thrown out another steaming heap of nonsense about why you should be able to put your own imaginings before God's Word.

You're welcome to imagine whatever you like; however, please refrain from steering others down your hippie-love-fest path to eternal damnation, OK?
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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 03:57 AM

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Wow, that was bizarre, dear.

You haven't offended me at all. Instead, you've thrown out another steaming heap of nonsense about why you should be able to put your own imaginings before God's Word.

You're welcome to imagine whatever you like; however, please refrain from steering others down your hippie-love-fest path to eternal damnation, OK?
You are a very offensive person, with a large abrasive personality, and you should try and fix that. Racism and predjudice are not good colors on you.


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You are a very offensive person, with a large abrasive personality, and you should try and fix that. Racism and predjudice are not good colors on you.
That was a vicious personal attack on a gentle and cherished member of this forum and I demand you apologies immediately. There is no room for hate here at Landover!



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Racism and predjudice are not good colors on you.
Friend, could you please stop insulting Sister Jenna? Of course she is not colored, she is not a descendant of Ham.

She is a pure white woman, of course with all the limits it brings with it, but calling her a darkie is not going to make you popular over here. She bakes pies, she doesn't steal them OK?


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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 04:06 AM

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Wow, that was bizarre, dear.

You haven't offended me at all. Instead, you've thrown out another steaming heap of nonsense about why you should be able to put your own imaginings before God's Word.

You're welcome to imagine whatever you like; however, please refrain from steering others down your hippie-love-fest path to eternal damnation, OK?


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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 04:22 AM

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That was a vicious personal attack on a gentle and cherished member of this forum and I demand you apologies immediately. There is no room for hate here at Landover!
Then dont hate others, simple solution. That was not vicious at all, I simply pointed out the obvious, after accusing someone of being a hippie and telling them they are going to burn in hell for not believing the exact same thing as you is a vicious personal attack. I will apologize when all of you apologize for accusing everyone else of being heathens and scum and niggers, spics, and all those other horrible things that you call others!

Just because you are a "Valued Member" does not excuse you from the same formal tendencies that everyone else follow!


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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 04:28 AM

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Then dont hate others, simple solution. That was not vicious at all, I simply pointed out the obvious, after accusing someone of being a hippie and telling them they are going to burn in hell for not believing the exact same thing as you is a vicious personal attack. I will apologize when all of you apologize for accusing everyone else of being heathens and scum and niggers, spics, and all those other horrible things that you call others!

Just because you are a "Valued Member" does not excuse you from the same formal tendencies that everyone else follow!

I think I have to agree, RogueFilosifer, with everything you just said.
You seem a better christian (or if you arent, better than most of the christians on here)

If anyone deserves to be the valued member, it is RogueFilosofer, as I have seen more kindness from them than any other person here.



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Then dont hate others, simple solution. That was not vicious at all, I simply pointed out the obvious, after accusing someone of being a hippie and telling them they are going to burn in hell for not believing the exact same thing as you is a vicious personal attack.
Excuse me?

Telling some hippie that if he doesn't follow Jesus he will burn in Hellfire for all eternity is an act of LOVE, not a "vicious personal attack"!

Let me give you an example of a similar situation, and we'll see if you can comprehend.

Suppose you have a little sister. Your parents let you out of the basement to babysit her one day.

Your little sister has a stuffed teddy bear, which she loves to chew on. (She's only two.)

The bear falls off a shelf into a puddle of liquid rat poison. You see your little sister toddling over to pick up her bear, with that paw-gnawing look in her eye. You know that if you take the bear away, it will hurt her feelings, and she will probably cry and be mad at you. Of course, if you let her pick up and chew on her bear, she will get violently ill or even die.

What do you do?

You're our little sister, Rouge. We see you toddling toward the abyss, about to spend eternity burning and being tortured. We don't care if your feelings get hurt; we want your soul to be saved from the wrath of God.

And yet you say we act out of hate? Is this Bizarro World, or maybe Backwards Day?
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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 04:37 AM

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Excuse me?

Telling some hippie that if he doesn't follow Jesus he will burn in Hellfire for all eternity is an act of LOVE, not a "vicious personal attack"!

Let me give you an example of a similar situation, and we'll see if you can comprehend.

Suppose you have a little sister. Your parents let you out of the basement to babysit her one day.

Your little sister has a stuffed teddy bear, which she loves to chew on. (She's only two.)

The bear falls off a shelf into a puddle of liquid rat poison. You see your little sister toddling over to pick up her bear, with that paw-gnawing look in her eye. You know that if you take the bear away, it will hurt her feelings, and she will probably cry and be mad at you. Of course, if you let her pick up and chew on her bear, she will get violently ill or even die.

What do you do?

You're our little sister, Rouge. We see you toddling toward the abyss, about to spend eternity burning and being tortured. We don't care if your feelings get hurt; we want your soul to be saved from the wrath of God.

And yet you say we act out of hate? Is this Bizarro World, or maybe Backwards Day?
Last I checked, the user lovethygod did not say they were a hippie, so what gives you the right to call them a hippie? And dont you dare say God. God does not give anyone the right to judge others or to falsely accuse them, in fact on of the TEN COMMANDMENTS is thou shalt not bear false witness, which is what you are doing so STOP. Maybe your intentions are pure and out of love, but your methods are harsh and completely uncalled for, you are driving more people away from God than bringing together.


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"18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them." It goes on to explain that this passage is not about gays, and that they wont burn in hell.
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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 04:45 AM

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Last I checked, the user lovethygod did not say they were a hippie, so what gives you the right to call them a hippie? And dont you dare say God. God does not give anyone the right to judge others or to falsely accuse them, in fact on of the TEN COMMANDMENTS is thou shalt not bear false witness, which is what you are doing so STOP. Maybe your intentions are pure and out of love, but your methods are harsh and completely uncalled for, you are driving more people away from God than bringing together.
And you didn't tell us that you are a queer satan worshiper either, but your hateful words speak volumes.

Until you are a True Christian™, you cannot possibly hope to comprehend the Holy Bible.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Now then, you had better apologize to sister Jenny in your very next post, otherwise you will be spending some time in quarantine with the other God mocking scum. Even the hippie apologized to me for being offensive. I'm sure you can do it, nancy.


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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 04:46 AM

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Last I checked, the user lovethygod did not say they were a hippie, so what gives you the right to call them a hippie? And dont you dare say God. God does not give anyone the right to judge others or to falsely accuse them, in fact on of the TEN COMMANDMENTS is thou shalt not bear false witness, which is what you are doing so STOP. Maybe your intentions are pure and out of love, but your methods are harsh and completely uncalled for, you are driving more people away from God than bringing together.
Um, they who? Who is lovethygod calling a hippie now?

Incidentally, I live surrounded by hippies. I know one when I see one. I've not called lovethygod a hippie . . . I'd be more inclined to believe that she is a new-age-influenced Catholicker. She's too young to be a genuine patchouli-soaked, "earth-body" hippie. She could be a hippie-wannabe, though.

Meanwhile, you completely ignored the substance of my post, while instead bearing false witness against ME and claiming that I called lovethygod a hippie. Or that she called some group of people hippies ("they were a hippie"?).
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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 04:51 AM

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Then dont hate others, simple solution. That was not vicious at all, I simply pointed out the obvious, after accusing someone of being a hippie and telling them they are going to burn in hell for not believing the exact same thing as you is a vicious personal attack. I will apologize when all of you apologize for accusing everyone else of being heathens and scum and niggers, spics, and all those other horrible things that you call others!

Just because you are a "Valued Member" does not excuse you from the same formal tendencies that everyone else follow!
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You are not going to burn in Hell because you don't believe in exactly what we believe, you will burn in Hell because you don't believe in exactly what Jesus believes! We TRUE Christians are merely doing our best to keep from being sent to the Lake of Fire and love our Savior (He temporarily died for our sins) It's Jesus opinion that is the one that counts here friend.



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Default Re: What if an Unbeliver does many good things? - 01-11-2008, 04:58 AM

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Um, they who? Who is lovethygod calling a hippie now?

Incidentally, I live surrounded by hippies. I know one when I see one. I've not called lovethygod a hippie . . . I'd be more inclined to believe that she is a new-age-influenced Catholicker. She's too young to be a genuine patchouli-soaked, "earth-body" hippie. She could be a hippie-wannabe, though.

Meanwhile, you completely ignored the substance of my post, while instead bearing false witness against ME and claiming that I called lovethygod a hippie. Or that she called some group of people hippies ("they were a hippie"?).
I dont claim to know the sex of lovethygod so I used the term "they" as a substitute for "he" or "she" which are sex orientated terms. SO I did not bear false witness against you, you did call lovethygod a hippie!

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You're welcome to imagine whatever you like; however, please refrain from steering others down your hippie-love-fest path to eternal damnation, OK?
Even in context you are still saying that lovethygod is a hippie!

Don't start accusing me of things I havent done, when you should be looking at the things you HAVE done! Sweep off your own back step before you sweep off those of others.


My Fav Passage? Why Romans 1: 18-32 ofcourse!
"18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them." It goes on to explain that this passage is not about gays, and that they wont burn in hell.
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