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Bible 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 01-11-2018, 06:56 AM

Praise God! Glory to Jesus! Despite the outstanding efforts of Creation Scientists, some unsaved atheist believers still doubt the historicity and inerrancy of the Old Testament. This vile mutinous mob has now finally been silenced. Archaeologists have found the remains of the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:8) in Israel near the town of Tel Aviv (or Jaffa or the Biblical Japho, which proves that this is all real; Joshua 19:46 mentions this site). It is sad and heartbreaking that American Creation Scientists have not been pivotal during the excavation and that we have to rely on Jewish scholars to unravel these mysteries. This did cause some erroneous interpretations, but we'll get to those a bit later. First, let us see the definite proof of Genesis 2-4 being True™:
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Israeli archaeologists have uncovered next to one of the country’s busiest roads the site of an extraordinarily well preserved prehistoric “paradise” used by stone age hunter-gatherers over half a million years ago, who left behind evidence of hundreds of knapped flint hand-axes.
This proves that the site represents the remains of a paradise, i.e., Eden. Next, we must see if this paradise is in concert with the data that we have regarding this garden.

Genesis 2:9-10
And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.

Genesis 2:19
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

And when we return to the archaeological report, we can see that the data fit exactly! I have color-coded the above verses and the citation below for easy fact-checking.
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Archaeologists believe the site, north-east of Tel Aviv, was regarded as a sort of “paradise” for prehistoric hunter-gatherers – with a stream, vegetation and an abundance of animals encouraging them to return.
Everything fits 103%. The Garden of Eden has been found. It looked like this!



Such a wonderful place! But, there is more. To convert even the vilest, the most abominable atheist, the remains of the first family also contain something so extraordinary that all this must have been designed by Jesus for our days, these last days before Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:17). The findings include the murder weapon that Cain used to kill Abel!



Abel was a comely youth with smooth Caucasian skin. He tended sheep, and the beasts kept him and God satisfied (Genesis 4:4).



Can was a nasty vegetable gardener. God disliked him (Genesis 4:5). Based on the picture above we can see that he must have been sweaty with an unpleasant armpit odor.

Now, back to the historical report. From the results we learn that the murder weapon was among the findings. Never mind the erroneous dating of the tools at the moment. We'll correct that in due course.
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The most striking find was evidence of a well-developed lithic industry – referring to elaborately worked stone tools – including hundreds of flint hand-axes typical of the ancient Acheulian culture that existed in the Lower Paleolithic era from about 1.5 million to 200,000 years ago.
Here's a picture of the tool in question.



This must have been carved by Abel himself when he processed his sheep for offerings. It must have been seized by Cain when he attacked his brother. The Biblical account verifies my hypothesis.

Genesis 4:8
And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

Was this tool useful for that purpose? The archaeologists verify that. It was, indeed, used for butchering. In this case, Cain used it to cruelly butcher his brother.
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Acheulian hand-axes – which scientists now believe were used for a variety of purposes from butchering to digging –
In addition, well-researched artistic accounts of the incident verify the shape and form of the weapon.



Conclusion: The site is the Garden of Eden and the tool depicted is the first murder weapon. Now, because of the unsaved nature of the scientists, some mistakes have crept into the report. First, the age of the findings.
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hand-axes typical of the ancient Acheulian culture that existed in the Lower Paleolithic era from about 1.5 million to 200,000 years ago.
How could these tools be 1.5 million years old when the Earth was Created 4004 BC, you may ask. The Bible comes to our rescue here.

2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

This is from the New Testament, not the Old One. As the Jewish scholars would only know the Old Testament, they would be unaware of this verse. Thus, they have mixed up days with years. By doing some advanced calculus, we can determine that 1.5 million days is exactly 4 106.8639 years. This is so close to the known figure of 4004 BC that it cannot be a coincidence.

Another issue is a more disgusting one. One more claim of the scientists needs to be rectified.
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an extinct species of early human - homo erectus – may have returned to the site repeatedly, perhaps attracted by a water source and abundant game, leaving behind evidence of their primitive stone tools.
The obsession with sodomy by atheists never ceases to astonish us. This is simply a mistake that can be dismissed. Adam was no homo, nor his sons. They were (at least Cain) violent murderous villains and their mother a criminal disobeying harlot (Genesis 3:6), but they were not sodomites. Nor were the men erected at least not before the Fall (Genesis 3:6) as no erections were necessary in the undying Eden. Let us not discuss this any further.

To supplement the findings, it would be very useful to check the murder weapon for Abel's blood and extract the DNA. By sequencing the genome of the second generation of humans we could determine with precision how the Fall (Genesis 3:6) and the subsequent decay have corrupted our hereditary material during the millennia. Glory.


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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 01-11-2018, 04:41 PM

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Israeli archaeologists have uncovered next to one of the country’s busiest roads the site of an extraordinarily well preserved prehistoric “paradise”
What fascinates me the most about archaeology, is that the most important findings always show up close to modern settlements or alongside roads, and never in remote, hard to reach areas (especially places where even an off-road vehicle cannot get through).

One could hypothesize, that people have always been returning to the same areas, old habits die hard, etc...

But let's be honest, the truth is that archaeologists are plain lazy, and only "discover" sites which lie in plain site, and which are easily accessible.

Besides, archaeologists are all drunk half of the time, so I know for a fact (even if I cannot prove it) that there is a direct correlation between archaeological sites found and liquor stores in proximity.
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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 01-12-2018, 04:54 AM

There are a few problems I see here with these Jew archeologists.

First of all, Adam and Eve were not "hunter-gatherers" - they did not eat meat in the Garden of Eden according to the Bible (KJV1611). You might consider them "gatherers", but God had designed everything perfectly in the Garden of Eden. "Gathering" seems to imply that there was some effort involved, but from everything else we know this wasn't the case. Adam and Eve just sauntered around and when they were hungry they just grabbed what was nearby - nuts, fruit, seeds, etc. Indeed, it sounds very much like the socialists - even their "healthcare" was provided for.

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And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

- Genesis 1:29-31
So there was no need for any "stone tools" or "flint hand-axes" since they didn't eat any meat (and there was no need to kill any animals). They also didn't need to build any structures as the weather was perfect and Adam and Eve frolicked around naked - so no need for any clothing (or animal skins). Nor did they kill and eat any snakes - or things might have turned out differently.

Now we come to a time sequence problem. Adam and Eve were booted out of the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2:4-3:24. Cain killed Abel outside the Garden of Eden later on (Genesis 4:1-16), so finding a murder weapon in the Garden of Eden doesn't make any sense.

I wouldn't put it past these Jew archeologists to want to turn this "Eden" find into some kind of Disney styled theme park, and surely there's money to be made here. Rental fees for weddings, Bar and Bat Mitzvah's, and mohel's looking for a place to do their brit milah's could bring in a tidy sum.

Now it's entirely possible that due to the Great Flood, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, and other geological upheavals over the last few thousand years that all these findings and implements got stirred up in the sediment and got moved around a bit - and I'm certainly willing to have an open mind here.


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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 01-12-2018, 03:02 PM

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So there was no need for any "stone tools" or "flint hand-axes" since they didn't eat any meat
Whereas your points are well-made and germane, I must point out that stone tools, including axes, would be useful for tough-skinned mangoes and coconuts, and spears are useful for getting hold of things that you have knocked down from trees and then have fallen into a ditch, or simply grubbing for roots. (It could well be that the spears are not spears but prototype hoes.)




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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 01-13-2018, 12:49 AM

This discovery is a game changer for we who are True Christians™. No longer will we have put up with the taunts from atheists about "myths".

It seems to me Biblical archaeology is coming at us faster and faster. It is as though God has decided to reveal the origins of the Bible and to do it now.

I would not be surprised if that Garden of Eden area revealed a talking snake in the near future.


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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 01-14-2018, 01:09 PM

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I was reminded when I saw that lovely picture how fortunate we, as Christians, are not to have degenerated. Jesus foreknew us and ensured that we remained fit for perfection just as Adam had been perfect, and his wife who when they were married did not have a name. The animals cared for by Abel were already domesticated and later, when plants had degenerated into thorns & thistles and death came into world which includes being eaten, placid creatures such as hyaenas and scorpions became thorns & thistles themselves. Stinging. Biting. Eating one another raw. Many humans became savage, rampant, unrestrained. "Woo woo woo!" they shouted running around shiny. Swivelling their eyeballs at anything considering grass skirts as a future option. They were probably shiny themselves. What a horrid scene!

Jesus refers to His elect (us) as sheep. We have been spared the degeneration into savagery as though we are domesticated, just like those animals so many years ago.
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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-23-2019, 07:48 AM

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Praise God! Glory to Jesus! Despite the outstanding efforts of Creation Scientists, some unsaved atheist believers still doubt the historicity and inerrancy of the Old Testament. This vile mutinous mob has now finally been silenced. Archaeologists have found the remains of the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:8) in Israel near the town of Tel Aviv (or Jaffa or the Biblical Japho, which proves that this is all real; Joshua 19:46 mentions this site). It is sad and heartbreaking that American Creation Scientists have not been pivotal during the excavation and that we have to rely on Jewish scholars to unravel these mysteries. This did cause some erroneous interpretations, but we'll get to those a bit later. First, let us see the definite proof of Genesis 2-4 being True™:This proves that the site represents the remains of a paradise, i.e., Eden. Next, we must see if this paradise is in concert with the data that we have regarding this garden.

Genesis 2:9-10
And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.

Genesis 2:19
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

And when we return to the archaeological report, we can see that the data fit exactly! I have color-coded the above verses and the citation below for easy fact-checking.
Everything fits 103%. The Garden of Eden has been found. It looked like this!



Such a wonderful place! But, there is more. To convert even the vilest, the most abominable atheist, the remains of the first family also contain something so extraordinary that all this must have been designed by Jesus for our days, these last days before Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:17). The findings include the murder weapon that Cain used to kill Abel!



Abel was a comely youth with smooth Caucasian skin. He tended sheep, and the beasts kept him and God satisfied (Genesis 4:4).



Can was a nasty vegetable gardener. God disliked him (Genesis 4:5). Based on the picture above we can see that he must have been sweaty with an unpleasant armpit odor.

Now, back to the historical report. From the results we learn that the murder weapon was among the findings. Never mind the erroneous dating of the tools at the moment. We'll correct that in due course.
Here's a picture of the tool in question.



This must have been carved by Abel himself when he processed his sheep for offerings. It must have been seized by Cain when he attacked his brother. The Biblical account verifies my hypothesis.

Genesis 4:8
And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

Was this tool useful for that purpose? The archaeologists verify that. It was, indeed, used for butchering. In this case, Cain used it to cruelly butcher his brother.
In addition, well-researched artistic accounts of the incident verify the shape and form of the weapon.



Conclusion: The site is the Garden of Eden and the tool depicted is the first murder weapon. Now, because of the unsaved nature of the scientists, some mistakes have crept into the report. First, the age of the findings.
How could these tools be 1.5 million years old when the Earth was Created 4004 BC, you may ask. The Bible comes to our rescue here.

2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

This is from the New Testament, not the Old One. As the Jewish scholars would only know the Old Testament, they would be unaware of this verse. Thus, they have mixed up days with years. By doing some advanced calculus, we can determine that 1.5 million days is exactly 4 106.8639 years. This is so close to the known figure of 4004 BC that it cannot be a coincidence.

Another issue is a more disgusting one. One more claim of the scientists needs to be rectified.
The obsession with sodomy by atheists never ceases to astonish us. This is simply a mistake that can be dismissed. Adam was no homo, nor his sons. They were (at least Cain) violent murderous villains and their mother a criminal disobeying harlot (Genesis 3:6), but they were not sodomites. Nor were the men erected at least not before the Fall (Genesis 3:6) as no erections were necessary in the undying Eden. Let us not discuss this any further.

To supplement the findings, it would be very useful to check the murder weapon for Abel's blood and extract the DNA. By sequencing the genome of the second generation of humans we could determine with precision how the Fall (Genesis 3:6) and the subsequent decay have corrupted our hereditary material during the millennia. Glory.


Yours in Christ,

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Lightbulb Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-23-2019, 07:57 AM

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The garden of eden is located in lake magadi. Go on Google maps and just type lake magadi. The garden of eden is located in that green patch on the map
Based on what? God has actually given us directions about the whereabouts of Eden as it was before the Fall (Genesis 3:6).

Genesis 2:10-14
And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

Is one of those in Kenya?



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Based on what? God has actually given us directions about the whereabouts of Eden as it was before the Fall (Genesis 3:6).

Genesis 2:10-14
And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

Is one of those in Kenya?



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Its near Kenya yes look to the right of shinyanga near the ngorongo conservation
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Its near Kenya yes look to the right of shinyanga near the ngorongo conservation
Yes its near the eurphrates.
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Yes its near the eurphrates.
Kenya? No it is not.



The blue arrow indicates the rives Euphrates and the red arrow points to Kenya. I urge you to take a walk from one of these places to another and assess their distance.
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The Euphrates is mentioned In genesis when it talks about Eden
Yes, it is!

Genesis 2:14
And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

Incidentally, I quoted this verse earlier for your benefit. It is also mentioned many other times in the Bible always in association with Middle eastern places, such as Lebanon, which is not Kenya.

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Phirat in genesis is a term for euphrates
Is it? Please give us the KJV verse with the word "Phirat". Please note that false Bible versions cannot be tolerated.

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The garden of eden is located in lake magadi.
What? Did you get that piece of fake news from a review on Trip Advisor? And you say it's in the lake? Wouldn't that make it a bit waterlogged?


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That will not be necessary for anyone with a passing grade in elementary geography. Do you mean the one in Kenya or the one in Tanzania? They are both more than 4,000 miles from the Euphrates.


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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-23-2019, 01:44 PM

Well now, the combination of "news" and "travel" is hard to resist. In Bahrain all over the place they seem pretty upbeat about Eden being in Bahrain.

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Kenya? No it is not.



The blue arrow indicates the rives Euphrates and the red arrow points to Kenya. I urge you to take a walk from one of these places to another and assess their distance.

Yes, it is!

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And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

Incidentally, I quoted this verse earlier for your benefit. It is also mentioned many other times in the Bible always in association with Middle eastern places, such as Lebanon, which is not Kenya.


Is it? Please give us the KJV verse with the word "Phirat". Please note that false Bible versions cannot be tolerated.

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Garden of eden is located near lake magadi you have to go some ways lake magadi is by Tanzania which is close to kenya
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What? Did you get that piece of fake news from a review on Trip Advisor? And you say it's in the lake? Wouldn't that make it a bit waterlogged?





That will not be necessary for anyone with a passing grade in elementary geography. Do you mean the one in Kenya or the one in Tanzania? They are both more than 4,000 miles from the Euphrates.
Lake magadi is by Tanzania It does not need to be exactly by the Euphrates. However its across from it.

With what happened with flood during Noah's time I think the great flood sent by God possibly covered the garden of eden
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Well now, the combination of "news" and "travel" is hard to resist. In Bahrain all over the place they seem pretty upbeat about Eden being in Bahrain.

I have proof! They have proof! v.s.

My proof is of what they promote.

Their proof is a tree.

You choose.
I've never heard of Bahrain being a possible location. I've only heard of speculation of the garden of eden being in three places, Israel, Iran and lake magadi but lake magadi is the one that alot of people have evidence for in being the location of the garden of eden
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... lake magadi but lake magadi is the one that alot of people have evidence for in being the location of the garden of eden
People such as who? You are just making this up. You sound more and more like a shill for the Tanzanian tourist board.


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People such as who? You are just making this up. You sound more and more like a shill for the Tanzanian tourist board.
Well then how can you explain the lake magadi anomaly. It does not look man made and it doesnt look like a regular lake to me it looks green from what some of the maps show.

I'm not a shill from the tanzanian tourist board Tanzania is near eurphrates, it doesnt need to be exactly close to eurphrates for it to be the garden of eden
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